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openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/election master: update hacking version https://review.opendev.org/740181 | 08:11 |
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ttx | evrardjp: fungi: gmann: could one of you review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/736213/ so that I don't self-approve it? | 09:04 |
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evrardjp | sure | 09:24 |
evrardjp | ttx: I just commented, one nit, but one bigger question, to make sure the wording is clear. If you say it's fine, I merge it, I am happy with the current rest of the wording, and it's a good change already. | 09:37 |
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ttx | evrardjp: commented back... TL;DR: I think we can merge as-is | 09:45 |
evrardjp | sorry I missed your comment back, thanks for the ping : ) | 09:45 |
evrardjp | let's merge. | 09:46 |
ttx | thanks! | 09:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/project-team-guide master: Update release management page https://review.opendev.org/736213 | 09:53 |
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gmann | o/ | 13:31 |
knikolla | o/ | 14:00 |
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gagehugo | o/ | 14:20 |
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njohnston | o/ | 14:59 |
mnaser | o/ | 15:00 |
mnaser | for those who are here - https://doodle.com/poll/q27t8pucq7b8xbme -- hint hint :) | 15:00 |
jungleboyj | o/ | 15:00 |
* jungleboyj did my homework. ;-) | 15:01 | |
mnaser | weee | 15:01 |
mnaser | i got a response from the k8s steering committee | 15:01 |
mnaser | though i suspect if i post the link here it won't be visible again | 15:02 |
mnaser | https://groups.google.com/a/kubernetes.io/d/msgid/steering/CAEs876gfTFCxbRS8jt4zyZBZJJLU95jA0eB7BsBnVZoVwAF0UQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer -- does this work? | 15:03 |
gmann | yeah | 15:03 |
jungleboyj | Yep. | 15:03 |
njohnston | works for me | 15:04 |
njohnston | gotta love dims | 15:04 |
mnaser | so given the reply was yesterday, ill wait for a little longer if we get a response, if not maybe try and chat on the sig-arch | 15:05 |
mnaser | i also think setting up time to meet together could be productive, just to understand better each others governance, etc | 15:05 |
jungleboyj | ++ | 15:06 |
gmann | that is awesome idea and starting these type of cross community discussions are always win for everyone/ | 15:06 |
mnaser | if we do setup a discussion, is there anything we feel like might be a productive discussion to have? | 15:07 |
fungi | yeah, that link works anonymously for me, you can also drop everything after the ? in the url | 15:10 |
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mnaser | thoughts? :> | 15:23 |
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fungi | the most interesting topic to me (reducing cross-community animosity) is probably a touchy subject and maybe not a good one for a first meeting | 15:27 |
jungleboyj | Well, I think starting by getting their input on whether we have the right components in the list makes sense. | 15:27 |
jungleboyj | Also, anything as far as cross community documentation that can be leveraged would also be good. | 15:28 |
mnaser | jungleboyj: those are good for the sig-arch thing | 15:28 |
knikolla | yay dims :D | 15:28 |
mnaser | fungi: that's a good point but yeah, probably not a day #1 :p | 15:28 |
jungleboyj | fungi: ++ | 15:28 |
jungleboyj | OpenStack comes in Guns Blazing. | 15:29 |
knikolla | agree ++ | 15:29 |
gmann | or that goes better as we keep more and more disucssions/talk. | 15:29 |
fungi | much like the openstack tc, the kubernetes steering committee apparently doesn't make technical decisions for the project | 15:29 |
mnaser | i wonder if there's benefit in understanding each others governance models | 15:29 |
jungleboyj | mnaser: ++ | 15:30 |
jungleboyj | I know that other parts of the community have been studying what they are doing and learning from it. | 15:30 |
knikolla | ++ | 15:30 |
knikolla | understanding the governance models and knowing which groups to engage with for what. also keeping a communication channel up so we can understand the challenges they are facing and we are facing. | 15:31 |
knikolla | we are not so different. | 15:31 |
mnaser | yeah, i mean, i'm sure we can learn things, and we've had a bunch of experience too | 15:33 |
mnaser | i do think we might need to come up with an agenda to get people to spend some of their time | 15:33 |
gmann | +1, how they interact/connect with sig/team/contributors etc can be good to learn. | 15:34 |
smcginnis | ttx had set up a few cross-community meetings at past Kubecon and Dockercon events. They went really well. | 15:35 |
smcginnis | Most folks were very great to talk with and very open. | 15:35 |
smcginnis | I think getting more like that going is a good thing. | 15:35 |
gmann | also knowing their meeting model and how good/less good it is for them can be another things which are in process of improving. | 15:36 |
jungleboyj | Yeah. That would be good. | 15:36 |
mnaser | does anyone want to start drafting up an etherpad where we can put in some of those subjects that make sense? | 15:39 |
jungleboyj | I could do that. | 15:39 |
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mnaser | please jungleboyj :) i think we have two 'agendas' -- one with sig-arch, and another with the steering committee | 15:40 |
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gmann | +1 on keeping both separate | 15:40 |
jungleboyj | Ok. Sig-Arch would be the more technical and the Steering the Community side? | 15:41 |
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mnaser | jungleboyj: i.. think so? perhaps i would say 'governance' instead of 'community' | 15:42 |
jungleboyj | Okie dokie . I guess this is part of what we need to learn. :-) | 15:43 |
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jungleboyj | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kubernetes-cross-community-topics | 15:56 |
jungleboyj | Started. I can leave that for a little while if you guys want to add and send a ML post later today. | 15:57 |
gmann | jungleboyj: thanks | 15:58 |
jungleboyj | NP. | 16:02 |
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knikolla | that was fast, thanks jungleboyj :) | 16:08 |
ttx | smcginnis: yes it was hard to get them any kind of sanctioned space in the official events, but I did run those unofficially | 16:08 |
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fungi | almost as if the event organizers didn't want them finding out the openstack community consists of actual people (and pleasant conversationalists) | 16:44 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 16:44 |
jungleboyj | We are the trolls under the bridge. | 16:44 |
smcginnis | The first event or two it seemed like a lot of anti-OS comments made by certain people. Less so each event. | 16:45 |
jungleboyj | That is good. | 16:46 |
smcginnis | I think CERN getting up in Copenhagen and showing how they were using thousands of cores for OpenStack and Kubernetes helped a few people realize it was a better together thing rather than an us versus them. | 16:46 |
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smcginnis | And recent change in leadership potentially could make that even better. | 16:47 |
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jungleboyj | That is good. What was the leadership change? | 16:54 |
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fungi | former executive director of the cncf has been reassigned to lf's public health initiative | 16:56 |
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diablo_rojo | mugsie, evrardjp cloudnull when you get a sec, can you fill out the new office hour poll: https://doodle.com/poll/q27t8pucq7b8xbme | 18:10 |
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cloudnull | sure | 18:19 |
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diablo_rojo | cloudnull, thank you! | 18:26 |
mnaser | jungleboyj: btw are you able to update to the mailing list with a link to that etherpad? i guess let's have it with a [tc] tag to try and get the tc's attention | 18:26 |
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jungleboyj | mnaser: Yep, I was planning to do that yet today. :-) | 18:39 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Update goal selection docs to clarify the goal count https://review.opendev.org/739150 | 18:51 |
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