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diablo_rojo_phon | o/ | 00:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Name releases after movie 'release' quotes https://review.opendev.org/684688 | 08:22 |
tosky | ttx: does it mean we may have an "Expelliarmus!" release? | 08:27 |
ttx | I fear that would go beyond the 10-letter limit... | 08:28 |
tosky | d'oh | 08:28 |
ttx | You can still have "Quaffle" though | 08:29 |
tosky | and Lumos, I guess | 08:30 |
tosky | uhm, no | 08:32 |
tosky | should the word be just "release" or also "released" is fine? | 08:34 |
ttx | released is fine | 08:34 |
ttx | hmm, I should add that actually | 08:42 |
openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Name releases after movie 'release' quotes https://review.opendev.org/684688 | 08:45 |
ricolin | o/ | 09:29 |
ricolin | tc-members Just FYI. As one of meeting actions, I already reach out to zhurong, and he promised to send a Telemetry health report once he got some time | 09:37 |
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coreycb | smcginnis: hi, and sorry, I know timing probably isn't great to be asking for a review but I just remembered this needs to get merged for train goal-tools. I made the updates requested. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666934/ | 12:47 |
smcginnis | coreycb: Doesn't look like I have core on that repo. | 12:48 |
smcginnis | But looks good, thanks! | 12:49 |
coreycb | smcginnis: ah thanks for the +1 | 12:50 |
smcginnis | coreycb: We should probably expand this list - https://review.opendev.org/#/admin/groups/1859,members | 12:51 |
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coreycb | smcginnis: are there cores that are missing? | 12:54 |
smcginnis | No, just thinking 2/3 of the list are now less active, so it would be good to get some more folks added to the list. | 12:54 |
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jungleboyj | o/ | 13:04 |
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asettle | smcginnis, that list seems odd that it would only be Doug, Lance, and Matt... | 13:15 |
asettle | Esp now that Doug and Lance have both stood down | 13:15 |
asettle | (from the TC) | 13:15 |
njohnston | o/ | 13:16 |
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smcginnis | asettle: Probably doesn't have to be TC members, but I would think we would want at least a couple more included that are still active in the community. | 13:36 |
asettle | smcginnis, how do we go about this? what's the process? I know little about it | 13:37 |
smcginnis | Maybe mriedem can add folks yet, but I guess we need to decide who should be or wants to be core on that. | 13:38 |
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smcginnis | Would make sense to me to have the TC in there. Maybe we can just add the tc as a group so at least anyone on the current TC at least has the ability to approve patches, if they so choose. | 13:39 |
smcginnis | Not as an official responsibility, but more as a safeguard to make sure there's always someone that can take care of that. | 13:39 |
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mriedem | whu? | 13:43 |
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mriedem | smcginnis: which repo are you talking about? | 13:47 |
fungi | mriedem: openstack/goal-tools | 13:47 |
smcginnis | For halloween, can we create openstack/gaol-tools? | 13:48 |
fungi | openstack/ghoul-tools! | 13:49 |
mriedem | oh, forgot i was core on that. i think i reviewed like 1 or 2 changes. | 13:50 |
fungi | no take-backsies | 13:50 |
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dhellmann | smcginnis : I added you to the goal-tools team repo | 14:21 |
dhellmann | s/team repo/repo team/ | 14:23 |
smcginnis | dhellmann: Thanks! | 14:27 |
clarkb | I keep reading it as gaol-tools | 14:28 |
dhellmann | close | 14:32 |
smcginnis | Kind of like how the Simpsons changes their names in the credits of the halloween episode. I think we need to publish a set of Halloween repos. :) | 14:32 |
jungleboyj | He he. | 14:32 |
fungi | i'm curious why gaol. aside from being an archaic english spelling of "jail" i don't find much relevant in the way of references | 14:35 |
smcginnis | Just the "jail" thing. | 14:36 |
fungi | ahh | 14:36 |
asettle | fungi, in some places in Aus, they still use "goal" | 14:37 |
asettle | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boggo_Road_Gaol | 14:37 |
jungleboyj | Isn't that was they used in Ireland as wel? | 14:37 |
smcginnis | Crazy Aussies. :) | 14:37 |
asettle | The new ones are all "Correctional Centres" not jails/gaols | 14:37 |
jungleboyj | Yeah, it was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilmainham_Gaol | 14:38 |
jungleboyj | asettle: More politically correct. | 14:38 |
asettle | Indeed | 14:38 |
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openstackgerrit | wangfaxin proposed openstack/election master: Fix source link. https://review.opendev.org/688949 | 14:55 |
mriedem | anyone else notice that the various train release tech articles highlight that there is a nova/cyborg spec that was merged? | 15:16 |
mriedem | not code, | 15:16 |
mriedem | a spec | 15:16 |
openstackgerrit | wangfaxin proposed openstack/election master: Fix source link. https://review.opendev.org/688957 | 15:19 |
mriedem | i mean, it's cool that we got a promise ring sorted out and all that | 15:19 |
ttx | mriedem: they picked up on https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/train/cyborg.yaml#L11 | 15:19 |
mriedem | yeah i saw | 15:19 |
ttx | Maybe we should be a bit more picky as to what makes it to release-highlights before we throw that link to journalists | 15:20 |
ttx | We usually are picky, but this one may have slipped under the radar | 15:20 |
smcginnis | Yeah, a lot of those I don't think were quite right for highlights. | 15:27 |
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fungi | we're tossing up a lot of jargon and then turning marketeers and journalistas loose on it | 16:41 |
fungi | so, yes, in the future we may want to better curate that before it gets into their hands | 16:41 |
smcginnis | Anne was great about that. | 16:42 |
smcginnis | Maybe we need to come up with a "How to write cycle highlights" guide. | 16:42 |
fungi | otherwise the desire to fluff vaporware will only increase | 16:44 |
cmurphy | i never realized those were being fed directly to journalists, i always thought those were notes for the foundation marketing staff to use to create press releases | 16:46 |
fungi | oh, they're even fed directly to the public. we don't link the highlights page from other pages on the release site, but it winds up in press releases and other articles | 16:48 |
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fungi | they do get distilled, and the official press releases and press interviews with osf staff operate off a very small subset, but we also probably could do a better job (at the tc level perhaps) of guiding the osf marketing staff toward highlights of those highlights | 16:50 |
fungi | i counted the release highlights for train and it's well over 100, so asking marketing folks to wade through that and identify what's important is pushing it | 16:50 |
fungi | i mean, it's *awesome* that we have so much new stuff teams want to highlight from the past 6 months, but some highlights are probably more newsworthy than others | 16:52 |
cmurphy | none of us writing those highlights are in marketing so even if there were guidelines it would be hard to expect those highlights to be at all polished enough to be press-worthy | 16:53 |
mugsie | yeah, I always write them with the assumption someone will be grepping the big stuff out for the projects | 16:54 |
clarkb | I've learned recently that if you write things on a mailing list you can expect them to show up verbatim on super user :) | 16:54 |
smcginnis | mugsie: I think that's how it was done in the past, but sounds like the turnaround time they shoot for now is so short they don't really have much time for post-processing. | 17:01 |
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fungi | that and they don't necessarily have the degree of insight into what's actually merged and what some teams just happen to think is cool to be able to differentiate | 17:11 |
fungi | so to mriedem's point, if someone mentioned the highlights of highlights somewhere for folks in the community to vet, or better still if the tc suggested some good candidates from the huge pool on the highlights page, we might catch that sort of thing before it gets shoved in front of the press | 17:13 |
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diablo_rojo | So, in the past we have done presentations during lunch at the PTG, but given the setup of the space this time, lunch will be in the hallway so we are opting to skip lunchtime presentations if that's cool with everyone? | 18:54 |
TheJulia | will there still be the meet the ptl's time? | 18:54 |
fungi | lunch in the hallway? i'm getting more excited by the moment! ;) | 18:55 |
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mriedem | how much can elastic-recheck get out of the pdf docs goal task? https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2006086 | 21:00 |
mriedem | like, can i just mark that invalid since i'm not going to do it? | 21:01 |
clarkb | mriedem: ya unless we suddenly find more interest in the tool (I know pabelanger was interested recently but not sure if he has time) then seems like a lot of effort for mostly internally used tool | 21:02 |
smcginnis | I would think that's invalid for elastic-recheck. Unless, are there docs generated there that might be useful to someone to have a PDF copy? | 21:02 |
mriedem | i doubt it | 21:02 |
smcginnis | I agree with clarkb, probably not worth the effort for such an internal tool. | 21:02 |
mriedem | yar | 21:02 |
mriedem | DONE! | 21:02 |
mriedem | goal: unlocked | 21:02 |
smcginnis | 🌟 | 21:03 |
jroll | but how will I read elastic-recheck docs on a plane! | 21:08 |
smcginnis | "Docs on a plane" starring jroll | 21:09 |
mriedem | i'm getting pretty m'fing tired of these m'fing docs on this m'fing plane | 21:22 |
mriedem | i heard on japanese airlines you can select your seat to avoid sitting next to the docs now | 21:22 |
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diablo_rojo | TheJulia, yeah I think we are having a meet the leadership thing at the Mixer. | 22:12 |
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timburke | and the Wednesday lunch, right? https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24426/meet-the-project-leaders | 22:41 |
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diablo_rojo | timburke, yes that lunch too | 22:44 |
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