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openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/governance master: Remove U release name poll https://review.opendev.org/674437 | 05:09 |
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* tonyb Can't see a way to salvage the existing U poll | 05:10 | |
tonyb | I think the only viabale way forward is start from scratch | 05:10 |
tonyb | I think the TC needs to lead this process as that give the best chance for clear timelines and avoids some of the problems with the existing structure | 05:12 |
tonyb | The good news is the wiki page stays in tact and can be used as a base | 05:12 |
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dhellmann | tonyb : can you remind me where to find the wiki page? | 15:40 |
fungi | dhellmann: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/U_Proposals | 15:40 |
dhellmann | thanks, fungi | 15:41 |
fungi | np | 15:41 |
dhellmann | reviewing the process in https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html I see that we have a list of proposed names so I think we're on step 4 | 15:43 |
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dhellmann | our schedule is off, but it seems we can just proceed with the process from here | 15:44 |
dhellmann | unless I'm missing something having to do with the schedule, I guess? | 15:44 |
fungi | yeah, i think the other bit we're lacking is communication of process/dates... if there was already an announcement/thread to the ml then we maybe need a followup communicating whatever timeline change we decide on | 15:47 |
fungi | presumably there was an announcement about the wiki being where we wanted people to add suggestions and when the deadline was | 15:47 |
fungi | i think i linked that in here from the ml archive, checking | 15:47 |
dhellmann | I see several proposals on that wiki page that could easily have negative connotations, so I think we're going to want to pare it down before proposing a final candidate list for voting | 15:47 |
dhellmann | (that's in the "do not meet the criteria" list) | 15:48 |
dhellmann | the other names all seem fine at first glance | 15:48 |
fungi | sure | 15:49 |
dhellmann | but yeah, I think we just need to make that list and then adjust the schedule and keep moving | 15:49 |
dhellmann | do we know where the summit will be in 6 months? might be good to start the next one a little earlier :-) | 15:51 |
fungi | i do not think there has been any announcement for the "v" summit yet | 15:52 |
dhellmann | yeah, I didn't think so either | 15:52 |
dhellmann | well, one bridge at a time | 15:52 |
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fungi | looks like the most recent openstack-discuss ml thread on "u" release naming was actually http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005386.html | 15:58 |
fungi | i can't find any discussion on the ml for a few months now | 15:59 |
dhellmann | yeah, I think this probably deserves a new thread | 15:59 |
dhellmann | here's a proposed reduced list of options: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/u-name-poll-email | 16:00 |
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fungi | trying to find where we ever even announced the existence of the wiki page to submit suggestions | 16:03 |
dhellmann | I wasn't able to find it either | 16:03 |
dhellmann | we should make sure that shows up in the governance page | 16:03 |
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dhellmann | tonyb , mnaser : if you sign off on the email in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/u-name-poll-email I can send that this weekend (or tonyb can) and then we can just update the voting schedule in the governance doc to reflect the new dates | 16:11 |
dhellmann | I've removed the non-compliant suggestions I thought might have negative connotations, but if someone feels strongly about adding anything back that's why we have this discussion period :-) | 16:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: propose new voting schedule for u naming https://review.opendev.org/674465 | 16:17 |
dhellmann | mnaser : I propose we fast-track ^ | 16:17 |
smcginnis | Or we just call it unicorn and be done with it. :) | 16:18 |
dhellmann | someone else would have to propose that plan | 16:19 |
fungi | we might ought to also omit urumqi as next month is the 10-year anniversary of the "xinjiang unrest" | 16:19 |
dhellmann | done | 16:20 |
dhellmann | I missed that, thanks | 16:20 |
dhellmann | I did remove Uyghur from the non-compliant list | 16:20 |
fungi | urumqi is where the xinjiang unrest occurred, so... yeah | 16:20 |
dhellmann | yep | 16:20 |
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fungi | next to "uma" where it has a note declaring it not part of the outlined geographic region, that was from before we broadened the geographic region to just be all of china | 16:42 |
fungi | in theory it could move into the normal qualifying sublist now | 16:42 |
dhellmann | oh, good point | 16:54 |
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mnaser | dhellmann: the email lgtm, but i'd obviously prefer to hear from tonyb too. i am in favour of your patch but ill hold off till monday | 20:45 |
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dhellmann | mnaser : ack, I'll wait to hear from tonyb before sending anything | 21:23 |
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