Saturday, 2019-08-03

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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/governance master: Remove U release name poll  https://review.opendev.org/67443705:09
* tonyb Can't see a way to salvage the existing U poll05:10
tonybI think the only viabale way forward is start from scratch05:10
tonybI think the TC needs to lead this process as that give the best chance for clear timelines and avoids some of the problems with the existing structure05:12
tonybThe good news is the wiki page stays in tact and can be used as a base05:12
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dhellmanntonyb : can you remind me where to find the wiki page?15:40
fungidhellmann: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/U_Proposals15:40
dhellmannthanks, fungi15:41
funginp15:41
dhellmannreviewing the process in https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html I see that we have a list of proposed names so I think we're on step 415:43
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dhellmannour schedule is off, but it seems we can just proceed with the process from here15:44
dhellmannunless I'm missing something having to do with the schedule, I guess?15:44
fungiyeah, i think the other bit we're lacking is communication of process/dates... if there was already an announcement/thread to the ml then we maybe need a followup communicating whatever timeline change we decide on15:47
fungipresumably there was an announcement about the wiki being where we wanted people to add suggestions and when the deadline was15:47
fungii think i linked that in here from the ml archive, checking15:47
dhellmannI see several proposals on that wiki page that could easily have negative connotations, so I think we're going to want to pare it down before proposing a final candidate list for voting15:47
dhellmann(that's in the "do not meet the criteria" list)15:48
dhellmannthe other names all seem fine at first glance15:48
fungisure15:49
dhellmannbut yeah, I think we just need to make that list and then adjust the schedule and keep moving15:49
dhellmanndo we know where the summit will be in 6 months? might be good to start the next one a little earlier :-)15:51
fungii do not think there has been any announcement for the "v" summit yet15:52
dhellmannyeah, I didn't think so either15:52
dhellmannwell, one bridge at a time15:52
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fungilooks like the most recent openstack-discuss ml thread on "u" release naming was actually http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005386.html15:58
fungii can't find any discussion on the ml for a few months now15:59
dhellmannyeah, I think this probably deserves a new thread15:59
dhellmannhere's a proposed reduced list of options: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/u-name-poll-email16:00
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fungitrying to find where we ever even announced the existence of the wiki page to submit suggestions16:03
dhellmannI wasn't able to find it either16:03
dhellmannwe should make sure that shows up in the governance page16:03
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dhellmanntonyb , mnaser : if you sign off on the email in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/u-name-poll-email I can send that this weekend (or tonyb can) and then we can just update the voting schedule in the governance doc to reflect the new dates16:11
dhellmannI've removed the non-compliant suggestions I thought might have negative connotations, but if someone feels strongly about adding anything back that's why we have this discussion period :-)16:13
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: propose new voting schedule for u naming  https://review.opendev.org/67446516:17
dhellmannmnaser : I propose we fast-track ^16:17
smcginnisOr we just call it unicorn and be done with it. :)16:18
dhellmannsomeone else would have to propose that plan16:19
fungiwe might ought to also omit urumqi as next month is the 10-year anniversary of the "xinjiang unrest"16:19
dhellmanndone16:20
dhellmannI missed that, thanks16:20
dhellmannI did remove Uyghur from the non-compliant list16:20
fungiurumqi is where the xinjiang unrest occurred, so... yeah16:20
dhellmannyep16:20
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funginext to "uma" where it has a note declaring it not part of the outlined geographic region, that was from before we broadened the geographic region to just be all of china16:42
fungiin theory it could move into the normal qualifying sublist now16:42
dhellmannoh, good point16:54
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mnaserdhellmann: the email lgtm, but i'd obviously prefer to hear from tonyb too.  i am in favour of your patch but ill hold off till monday20:45
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dhellmannmnaser : ack, I'll wait to hear from tonyb before sending anything21:23
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