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| gmann | office hour time.. | 09:07 |
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| asettle | o/ | 09:41 |
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| ttx | late o/ | 09:47 |
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| evrardjp | very calm once again | 10:13 |
| asettle | I'd be afraid if it wasn't | 10:33 |
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| fungi | you're just giving the wednesday hour a chance for the spotlight this week | 13:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance-sigs master: Close Upgrades SIG https://review.opendev.org/656878 | 13:41 |
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| asettle | tc-members - I'm drafting the agenda for the team meeting on Thursday. Before I dive into items from the PTG, if anyone has anything they'd like to bring up or talk about, please let me know. Gracias | 13:46 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if the project health checks are still a thing, but just wanted to warn that it looks like zaqar may (still) be in danger. | 13:47 |
| * lbragstad nods | 13:47 | |
| asettle | Good call smcginnis | 13:47 |
| asettle | I'll add it to the wiki. We will probably want to discuss the new setup and add a note about zaqar | 13:47 |
| smcginnis | PTL had to be assigned by the TC. The project has been completely broken due to a library update for ~2 months now. I put up a patch to fix it, added the PTL, then eventually emailed the PTL directly making sure they were aware of the importance, but no response. | 13:48 |
| TheJulia | We should likely try and spend a little time and check things that we knew were in danger or at risk in the past because if we need to make hard decisions, sooner the better | 13:48 |
| asettle | Hm I see. Okay, we'll need to run that through. smcginnis will you be around on Thursday to go through this properly? I dno't want to dive in pre-meeting | 13:48 |
| smcginnis | asettle: Yeah, I think I should be around. | 13:49 |
| asettle | Okay good to hear. I've got that down, and we'll go through the changes suggested for the "health checks" and sorting that out too | 13:50 |
| fungi | yeah, pretty sure we had consensus to drop the formality of those, and i have an entry on my personal todo list that says i signed up to replace the wiki article content with a brief explanation of that decision | 14:13 |
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| asettle | fungi, that's correct. We can recap everything in the meeting on Thursday but it's well worth reminding everyone :) I've got a AI to update the ML after you update the wiki ;) | 14:15 |
| mnaser | for a second, I thought you had artificial intelligence to update the mailing list | 14:22 |
| mnaser | I was going to ask where you got it from, asettle. | 14:22 |
| cmurphy | i thought she has artificial intelligence to update the machine learning | 14:23 |
| fungi | what intelligence i have is entirely artificial | 14:30 |
| fungi | machines learn so i don't have to | 14:30 |
| zaneb | asettle: I wanted to talk to you and evrardjp about the next steps for the help most wanted items at some point. doesn't need to be in the meeting though | 14:43 |
| evrardjp | oh yeah, I think it would be good to sync. We are definitely touching the same areas | 14:44 |
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| asettle | mnaser, the AI? :p | 15:00 |
| asettle | zaneb, coolio hoolio | 15:00 |
| asettle | Let's actually like... I dunno... have a meeting | 15:00 |
| asettle | Cause typing is hard | 15:00 |
| asettle | cmurphy, aye that's about right really | 15:03 |
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| mnaser | tc-members: I'm wondering if it would make sense for us to host the meeting over a conferencing system, because it seems we might have a lot to cover and I think being able to speak / see each other might be nice | 15:49 |
| fungi | i will likely just listen. i find it hard to get a word in edgewise on a call with a dozen people | 15:53 |
| fungi | (also i'm not set up for videoconferencing so would just dial in) | 15:53 |
| fungi | ((also also, closed-source/proprietary conferencing platform?)) | 15:53 |
| clarkb | jitsi is open and does ad hoc video + audio | 15:55 |
| asettle | Just my 2 cents, I'm currently writing the agenda and it's intense. My suggestion would be for individuals to raise their hand on this kind of thing, but sense there would be some voice only, I'd hope for a peep of "I'd like to speak" rather than immediately speaking | 15:55 |
| cmurphy | would make it harder to the rest of the community to review the discussion after the fact | 15:55 |
| asettle | It's one of those things | 15:55 |
| asettle | cmurphy, good point | 15:55 |
| zaneb | cmurphy++ | 15:55 |
| fungi | at a minimum we'll probably need a volunteer to do transcription for the meeting log | 15:55 |
| asettle | Christ | 15:56 |
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| fungi | clarkb: ahh, neat, i didn't realize jitsi hosted a community backend too, but https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/ suggests they do | 15:57 |
| fungi | by the way, what happened to the idea that the tc meetings would just basically be status updates, and we should defer discussion to more accessible venues like the mailing list? if the agenda is intense and we expect people to need to raise hands constantly, then maybe we're failing at that | 15:59 |
| jroll | I was just typing something like that :) | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 16:00 |
| asettle | fungi, it shouldn't be intense, it's just a lot of updates that will be typed out | 16:01 |
| asettle | By me, I believe | 16:01 |
| * asettle is currently writing up the meeting email to send to discuss | 16:01 | |
| jroll | can always pre-type the updates | 16:02 |
| asettle | What the agenda is mostly atm, is going through the items from the PTG, reminding everyone of the decision made, and action item check in | 16:02 |
| asettle | jroll, hey you and your reasonable suggestions can go away | 16:02 |
| asettle | :p | 16:02 |
| jroll | I would prefer an irc meeting, primarily for the logs, but also that I have the same problem getting a word in on large calls | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | agreed | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | woops I meant agreed on above. But that still applies. | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | jroll: seems a very reasonable person apparently, who could have thought that? | 16:06 |
| clarkb | fungi: https://meet.jit.si/ is the url for ad hoc jitsi calls fwiw | 16:07 |
| jroll | evrardjp: said nobody ever :P | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | clarkb: is there a voicetotext thing? | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | that would be awesome | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | maybe mugsie can help us there? :p | 16:08 |
| jroll | curious how well "okay google, take a note" would handle an hour of people talking over each other :) | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | (that was a joke) | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | jroll: I kinda am curious, but at the same time, I don't really want to know | 16:09 |
| jroll | heh | 16:10 |
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| evrardjp | I am sure with the right processing power, perfect retranscription -- including ppl names! :D | 16:11 |
| mugsie | there is an add-in for teams that does do that .... but that is the quintesential proprietry VC system :) | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | hahaha, drinking the koolaid? | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | it's too bad I can't remove my comments on irc. | 16:13 |
| fungi | the internet never forgets | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | I have the impression this could lead to gdpr conversations | 16:15 |
| fungi | yep, best we not dig too deeply into how politicians fail to understand the technologies they're surrounded with | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | s/politicians/many/ | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | ;) | 16:17 |
| asettle | tc-members - I have just sent the agenda out. Otherwise you'll be able to find here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions | 16:19 |
| asettle | Since we have not had a meeting in some time, we are focusing on post-PTG and forum items | 16:19 |
| asettle | Please ping me if you want to add anything, or think I have missed a thing | 16:19 |
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| asettle | I have a bad habit of getting meeting agenda's wrong | 16:21 |
| asettle | It's amusing and horrifying at the same time | 16:22 |
| asettle | But anyway, I'll be hosting on Thursday unless mnaser suddenly emerges from his pile of work | 16:22 |
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| smcginnis | Based on scrollback, it sounds like the meeting is falling right into the thing those of us that were against reinstating it were afraid it would. | 17:24 |
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| fungi | well, if it's just some status reporting i'm not too worried. sounds like it'll mostly be a recap of forum/ptg with a "where are we now" on action items which came from that | 18:26 |
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