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| lxkong | hi, tc, i am wondering is it too late for me to raise my hand for Telemetry PTL? We are using Ceilometer and Aodh, we don't want to see this project dead. | 07:28 |
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| lxkong | i know i may not be eligible, but it's better to have someone say 'pong' and willing to spend some time on fixing something | 07:30 |
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| ttx | lxkong: it's not too late, as the TC needs to discuss what to do with it (and can bypass eligibility rules in that process) | 08:57 |
| lxkong | ttx: so i just need to propose a patch for the candidacy? | 08:58 |
| ttx | lxkong: no that is not needed. You could post a thread to the ML with [tc][telemetry] to explain that you are volunteering | 08:59 |
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| ttx | that way people who do not scan every line of that channel can see it | 08:59 |
| lxkong | ttx: cool, will do, thanks | 08:59 |
| ttx | lxkong: in particular, you already have qinling and trove to care for, so explain that you think you'll have time for all three :) | 09:00 |
| ttx | we are waiting for the conclusion of the election process to act on the leaderless project teams | 09:01 |
| ttx | (but discussion already started) | 09:01 |
| lxkong | ttx: sure, i think there must be some people may challenge me. But it's good if there is someone, isn't it? :-) | 09:01 |
| ttx | lxkong: it is, and thank you for all your help keeping those projects afloat. | 09:01 |
| lxkong | upstream first is our rule, so those projects mean a lot for us | 09:02 |
| ttx | ideally you would find others that also depend on those projects and should chime in with a couple hours per week | 09:03 |
| ttx | to help | 09:03 |
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| ricolin_ | lxkong, thanks for jumping out:) | 09:44 |
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| dangtrinhnt | lxkong, I would love to help. Some of the projects I'm involved in depend on AODH and ceilometer. Ping me in the #openstack-telemetry or ML. | 13:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/governance master: Add Move legacy client CLIs to OSC goal to Train https://review.openstack.org/639376 | 13:38 |
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| gmann | thanks lxkong for stepping up | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Update nodeJS PTI version for Train https://review.openstack.org/643603 | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Update nodeJS PTI version for Train https://review.openstack.org/643603 | 15:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Update nodeJS PTI version for Train https://review.openstack.org/643603 | 15:02 |
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| mriedem | dangtrinhnt: lxkong: maybe you'd like to hit these for the stein goal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614401/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614400/ | 15:34 |
| gmann | mriedem: i do not think they are core in aodh/ceilometer yet. | 15:36 |
| mriedem | they might know who to pester | 15:37 |
| gmann | yeah. or jd can approve them ^^ | 15:38 |
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| notmyname | I'll admit to not following this thread on the ML too closely, but framing a PTL election as a "battle" (at least in subject lines)? seems a bit over the top. | 16:23 |
| notmyname | am I missing some important context in these emails? | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | notmyname: That they were sent by mriedem? :) | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | I agree, overall maybe not the best way to frame the discussion. | 16:26 |
| dtroyer | notmyname: I read it as using the common phrase ironically… and yes, who wrote it informed that for me too | 16:26 |
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| zaneb | notmyname: this was the genesis of it http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2019-03-13.log.html#t2019-03-13T09:54:28 | 16:51 |
| zaneb | I agree with dtroyer's interpretation. also mriedem is innocent on this occasion ;) | 16:52 |
| notmyname | I'm definitely not trying to find any blame. the messages struck me, that's all | 16:55 |
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| fungi | i'm going to assume loose and perhaps dramatic interpretation of english vocabulary | 19:11 |
| fungi | i too don't view it as a aggressive competition, merely a friendly exercise of civic duty | 19:12 |
| fungi | not a nova contributor recently so mostly watching to see how things turn out, but with my election official hat off for a moment they both seem like good representatives | 19:13 |
| fungi | and i'm happy to see how non-controversial our elections are compared to some communities | 19:14 |
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| mnaser | fyi: remember, a lot of non-native english speaking people might translate things directly without possibly seeing it being intrepreted differently | 19:21 |
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| diablo_rojo | For reference, we have had 74 of 194 voters respond to the Nova PTL poll. | 19:36 |
| diablo_rojo | And 21 of 68 for Charms | 19:36 |
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| fungi | mnaser: yeah, in the situation in question, the phrasing was chosen by a non-native english speaker, so the rule goes both ways | 20:08 |
| fungi | i don't assume that the community members who post on our mailing lists are fully aware of the possible connotations of their english language vocabulary selections | 20:09 |
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| fungi | the risks inherent in native speakers of different languages interacting via english when it's neither's first language is of course also a concern | 21:13 |
| fungi | but as someone fluent in english (and effectively *only* english) i'm hesitant to step in and correct anyone else's phrasing unless there's clearly a misunderstanding | 21:15 |
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| dangtrinhnt | mriedem, sadly but like gmann said I'm not a core in aodh/ceilometer. | 22:46 |
| gmann | dangtrinhnt: let's wait till PTLs assignment are finalized and then, lxkong and you can be added as Core in telemetry repos and further you guys can extend the team accordingly. | 22:50 |
| dhellmann | before anything happens, someone needs to go on the record as being interested in being PTL by posting to the mailing list | 22:51 |
| dangtrinhnt | gmann, okie. dhellmann, let me communicate with lxkong about that. Thanks. | 22:53 |
| dhellmann | dangtrinhnt : you could copy jd_ as well, to coordinate with him | 22:53 |
| dhellmann | (the current PTL) | 22:54 |
| dangtrinhnt | Got it. | 22:54 |
| fungi | dhellmann: sorry, a day late and a dollar short, but sent http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/003892.html to the ml | 22:59 |
| fungi | Subject: [tc][infra] When a project leaves OpenStack | 23:00 |
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| mnaser | fungi: thanks for getting it done eventually anyways :) | 23:49 |
| dhellmann | fungi : ack, I'll take a look at that monday | 23:49 |
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