Monday, 2018-10-08

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: add Mohammed Naser as vice chair  https://review.openstack.org/60761613:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Reverse sort order for resolution date globs  https://review.openstack.org/60828013:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Use tox-docs for building  https://review.openstack.org/60844213:19
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ajohi dhellmann  :)15:43
dhellmannajo : hi!15:43
ajook, I saw the SIGs page, may common sense says it may make more sense like a project, as you said, if it has possitive feedback on the list15:43
ajomay->my15:44
ajo':)15:44
dhellmanna sig is easier to create, and they are specifically meant to encourage participation from all types of folks, not just developers15:44
dhellmannsince os-log-merger is an ops tool, it feels like a good place to start for an Ops Tools SIG15:44
ajodhellmann: right, but those don't seem to have deliverable projects, or do they?15:44
dhellmannsure, they can15:45
ajodhellmann: right, may be it's a good start15:45
dhellmannthe list is in openstack/governance/reference/sigs-repos.yaml15:45
* ajo looks15:45
dhellmannSIGs are still relatively new, so we don't have as many of them producing releases of things, but I think the release team would probably work with you to prepare releases15:46
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ajohmm, I see, at first look it seemed only documents being produced, but I also see tools15:47
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ajodhellmann: ok, so I will propose an Ops Tools SIG on the mailing list and see what feedback we have15:49
ajodhellmann: thanks a lot for the advice15:50
smcginnisThere are other existing ops tools that I think now don't really have a clear owner. So an Ops Tools SIG might be a good thing to have.15:50
dhellmannyeah, the other example I thought of was ospurge15:51
dhellmannajo : ++, thanks15:51
ajoyeah, I was going to CC the ospurge cores to see what they think15:51
ajoif you remember of other similar projects, please ping me on the ML.15:52
smcginnisThere are several repos that look relevant if you go to http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ and search for openstack/osops-*15:52
ajohmm15:52
smcginnisIncluding osops-tools-logging.15:52
dhellmannyeah, I wonder if we have a shadow group out there already :-)15:52
ajohehe,15:53
ajoseems like15:53
smcginnisThere was a group of operators more actively working on those awhile back. There's still some activity, but I think it's tapered a bit.15:53
smcginnisThis was before SIGs and maybe even before WGs.15:53
ajook, I will explore those repos a bit to submit a more complete proposal15:53
dhellmannthat sounds like another good group to contact15:53
dhellmann++15:53
ajohttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/osops-tools-monitoring/tree/15:54
ajothey have interesting stuff, yes15:54
ajothis one updated 07/201815:54
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smcginnisajo: There is an openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org mailing list. It might be worth posting to that to try to reach those folks.15:56
dhellmannthat's pretty recent15:56
ajonice, thanks smcginnis15:56
smcginnisAnd maybe someone from the UC like mrhillsman might know who to get in touch with.15:58
smcginnisWe have a core team for those repos - https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1076,members15:58
smcginnisBut not sure who else from that list is still active.15:58
mrhillsmanreading backlog15:58
smcginnismrhillsman: Just trying to sign you up for more work. ;)15:58
mrhillsmanajo we do have a group of folks who have been maintaining the ops tools repos16:00
mrhillsmani being one of them16:00
mrhillsmanwe recently removed some cores not long ago16:00
ajomrhillsman: hi :)16:01
mrhillsmandefinitely open to making adjustments that will warrant more activity16:02
ajomrhillsman: yeah, we were talking about an Ops Tools SIG16:02
mrhillsmanthx smcginnis ;)16:02
ajoafter my kamikaze proposal os os-log-merger for governance :D16:02
ajoos->of16:02
ajomrhillsman: may be we can come up with a catalog of what we have, and promote it in the community to make it more useful16:03
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mrhillsman++16:03
mrhillsmanlet's move conversation over to #openstack-operators16:03
smcginnisI definitely think those could use some more visibility.16:04
ajoack mrhillsman16:04
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: update the charter section on meetings  https://review.openstack.org/60875118:53
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: add a link to the meeting schedule  https://review.openstack.org/60875218:53
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