| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/governance master: Remove releasenotes/requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/521398 | 00:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/governance master: Add policy artifacts for Searchlight https://review.openstack.org/521412 | 04:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Dai Dang Van proposed openstack/governance master: Mark Searchlight policy in code as done https://review.openstack.org/520286 | 04:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ifat Afek proposed openstack/governance master: Update the status of Vitrage goals completion https://review.openstack.org/521445 | 07:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Add designate to the tc:approved-release tag https://review.openstack.org/521587 | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify testing for interop programs https://review.openstack.org/521602 | 17:35 |
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| cdent | mugsie: isn’t there a third option? defcore-tempest-plugin that centralizes those tests? | 17:38 |
| mugsie | cdent: yes, but every time I have put that forward people shout at me | 17:38 |
| cdent | (asking here rather than the review because I figured there’s some background that I want before commenting there) | 17:38 |
| * cdent sighs | 17:38 | |
| cdent | which people do that? | 17:39 |
| mugsie | QA usually | 17:39 |
| cdent | the plugin could still be under QA’s domain presumably… | 17:39 |
| cdent | I’ll comment on the review | 17:39 |
| cdent | do you have a preference (and why) on the two options? | 17:40 |
| mugsie | it also relys on the tempest plugin interface, which did not not have all the features that the tests in tempest relyed on | 17:40 |
| mugsie | Option 1 | 17:40 |
| mugsie | its much simpler | 17:40 |
| mugsie | (I do think the plugin interface has progressed a lot at this point, but I am open to correction) | 17:41 |
| cdent | of those two optoins I also prefer 1, but because I think defcore should be a unit of some kind | 17:41 |
| mugsie | yeah, thats part of the simpler bit. | 17:42 |
| mugsie | I personally would really like a interop-tempest-plugin, that could be tagged with each standard, and keep a history of what we have added and removed over the years | 17:43 |
| cdent | yes! | 17:43 |
| * cdent writes a comment | 17:43 | |
| smcginnis | ++ | 17:43 |
| mugsie | it also would really highlight to people when they change a test, that they need to be really careful | 17:44 |
| mugsie | cdent: I would be happy to rev this with an Option 3 later on, as long as I am not the only one calling for it :) | 17:45 |
| cdent | ✔ | 17:45 |
| * cdent rolls out the double -1 | 17:47 | |
| dhellmann | cdent, mugsie : if the qa team won't manage a set of tests in one place for interop, we could make the repo and put it under another team's management | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | I'd rather not do that, but it's an option | 17:50 |
| mugsie | Yeah, I would rather see if we could avoid that, but keep it as an option | 17:51 |
| cdent | I’ve just chatted with mvoelker a bit and he’s not too bothered by option 2 and is not super keen on option 3, but still plumbing for more info (I’ve also encouraged him to comment) | 18:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify testing for interop programs https://review.openstack.org/521602 | 19:18 |
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| cdent | thanks for the response mtreinish, I guess I think people’s perceptions are more important (in this particular context) than you do. It’s a thing upon which (I hope) reasonable people can disagree. | 19:42 |
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| mtreinish | cdent: yeah, in this case I'm just weighing it against the real impact on the developers and users more | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | especially because it's not everyone who sees things that way (and it's actually a small minority I feel) | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | like I don't think many people actually look at where the tests live to make a judgement on a project's importance or value | 21:04 |
| mugsie | Well, for somethings we are making a value call. In the original resolution, ensuring higher quality of reviews was one of the reasons cited for centralising the tests. Do add on programs have a lower bar for review quality? | 21:45 |
| mugsie | Bearing in mind the add on projects (probably) have less QA resources, or people familiar with how the tests get used end to end. | 21:46 |
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