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| flaper87 | thingee: we talked about whether we should remove Glance from the list already and the agreement was to keep it there for now and reconsider in a month or so | 09:58 |
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| ttx | dtroyer, flaper87: IIRC you are the TC's rep for Sydney's forum selection committee ? | 14:13 |
| ttx | If yes, I think the topic submission could use a reminder thread | 14:14 |
| ttx | If not let me know ASAP as it is the assumption I've been operating under :) | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | ttx: you are correct! I'll chime in soon | 14:18 |
| ttx | cool! The sooner the better, last I checked there were only 3 submissions :) | 14:19 |
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| dtroyer | ttx: ack | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | Didn't Jimmy just send out a reminder? | 15:18 |
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| dhellmann | that deadline of the 29th seems really early | 15:40 |
| ttx | yeah, we'll likely need to push it back anyway. Our TC reps on that committee should start advocating for that :) | 15:52 |
| ttx | smcginnis: yeah, but he feels like it would be stronger coming from a TC member | 15:52 |
| ttx | see discussion around 1st contact / mentoring on the openstack-sigs ML | 15:53 |
| ttx | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-sigs/2017-September/000074.html | 15:54 |
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| dhellmann | oh, good | 17:18 |
| dhellmann | ttx, fungi : I hope my responses on that thread help clarify what I had originally proposed via private email | 17:41 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: yeah, that seems more sane. sigs are (to me at least) more about uniting people who are already working on related things, rather than forming a new taskforce to solve $problem | 17:57 |
| dhellmann | yeah, everyone seems obsessed with this one issue, but I see that as one potential way a sig like this could help | 17:57 |
| dhellmann | not the main focus | 17:57 |
| fungi | but even then, it's not clear to me that all the items on that bullet list are closely related enough to lump them all into one sig | 17:58 |
| dhellmann | maybe not. | 18:00 |
| cdent | reasonable place to start, though | 18:01 |
| dhellmann | it seems like a step beyond everyone being cranky on the dev list | 18:01 |
| cdent | dhellmann: you’ll never fix that :) | 18:01 |
| dhellmann | maybe we can at least move cranky threads on this topic to a different list :-) | 18:02 |
| dhellmann | change! | 18:02 |
| fungi | the issue raised was more about questionable behavior of newcomer/low-engagement contributors, but the proposed sig is also about engaging with user groups (which contrary to what we'd like to think have so far not really driven new contributors), activity metrics... | 18:03 |
| fungi | i guess my recommendation would be to start with a focused scope and then widen it over time rather than the other way around | 18:04 |
| fungi | a sig around community health and activity metrics would be cool on its own, but doesn't seem like a fit for a group acting as a bridge between user groups and developer teams | 18:05 |
| fungi | as an example | 18:05 |
| fungi | nor does reaching out to user groups seem likely to address the problem around which the original thread was raised | 18:05 |
| fungi | as that's not where the recurring contributions in question seem to be originating | 18:06 |
| fungi | just worried that sig with such broad/vague scope will have a hard time getting off the ground | 18:06 |
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