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| ttx | fungi: you can consider my draft as CC-BY. Note that Todd is working on making a beautified version of it | 07:33 |
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| fungi | ttx: thanks. is there a vector source or just raster? | 11:36 |
| ttx | It's originally a google draw thing. There are probably export formats | 11:38 |
| * ttx looks up | 11:38 | |
| ttx | has SVG | 11:38 |
| ttx | that said you probably want to remix the one that will come out of Mrey's labs | 11:39 |
| ttx | Morey's | 11:39 |
| fungi | k, thanks! | 11:42 |
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| ttx | fungi: I was planning to spend some time analyzing what was on stackforge^Wunofficial^Whosted space atm, but don't want to duplicate your work, if you've done any | 12:40 |
| ttx | so I'll wait for your go-ahead | 12:40 |
| fungi | as an initial data point, right at 2/3 of the openstack{,-dev,-infra}/.* repos are deliverables for official teams in governance | 13:13 |
| ttx | fungi: ok. if you haven't started to dig deeper, I'll do it now | 13:14 |
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| fungi | i haven't. trying to figure out what sorts of metrics we can come up with that would represent any useful information... like i can probably map out percentage of job runs for unofficial projects, though scaling that to runtimes may be much harder | 13:17 |
| ttx | fungi: wanted to try to get an idea of which are potentially in scope for an official project vs. not | 13:18 |
| ttx | that involves looking at what the project actually does, which is time consuming :) | 13:18 |
| ttx | I'll probably dump the data in an etherpad | 13:18 |
| ttx | basically try to see how many we have in each category, and how much activity that represents | 13:19 |
| fungi | not a bad idea. so classifying the different unofficial projects by use basically? | 13:20 |
| ttx | yeah, I had 3 categories in mind. Things that could totally be official if only they applied, things that are side-projects that we want close, like orphaned libs we took over, and things that are just not in scope | 13:22 |
| ttx | I'll extract the project list to an etherpad and create categories, then people who know about a given project could help categorize | 13:23 |
| fungi | there are descriptions in openstack-infra/project-config gerrit/projects.yaml that may be relatively accurate, at least | 13:25 |
| ttx | right | 13:25 |
| ttx | I'll extract both pieces, and remove "official" stuff to get the negative space | 13:26 |
| ttx | fungi: we still have stackforge/* stuff in projects.yaml -- does that mean that projects keep their old name in the file when they are renamed ? Or am I missing something | 13:30 |
| fungi | ttx: those are basically dead. they're the projects whose owners were unresponsive over the course of the 6 months we repeatedly tried to reach them about the rename | 13:41 |
| ttx | ok | 13:42 |
| fungi | we consider them effectively abandoned | 13:42 |
| ttx | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/negative-space-analysis for those following at home | 13:49 |
| ttx | need to fix a few entries that are found outside projects.yaml (like the TC and the UC list) | 13:51 |
| fungi | that's a useful starting point--thanks! | 14:05 |
| ttx | wow there are things that should definitely be official in there :) | 14:06 |
| fungi | some, yes. it occasionally takes convincing people of that (like the fuel team really seemed to prefer not taking responsibility for most of their plugins even though they retained core review rights over them) | 14:21 |
| fungi | some are just an oversight where people forget to file the governance change | 14:21 |
| fungi | and some would make sense to be official but aren't a fit for an existing team | 14:22 |
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| ttx | Lots of those had a couple commits and never went further | 14:56 |
| ttx | Like http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/pandaman | 14:56 |
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