Thursday, 2015-10-01

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gemao/16:58
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gema#startmeeting tailgate17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  1 17:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tailgate'17:00
gema#topic rollcall17:00
gemaanyone around?17:00
spyderdynetailgate17:01
jasonsb_hi17:01
spyderdyne:)17:01
gemahi y'all :D17:01
gemalet's give a few mins in case someone else joins17:01
gemaunless you are in a hurry?17:01
spyderdyneno hurry17:01
spyderdynei'm hourly17:02
spyderdyne:)17:02
gemalol17:02
jasonsb_i'm hourly too17:02
jasonsb_work one hour17:02
jasonsb_take rest day off17:02
gemahaha17:02
jasonsb_opps, thats logged17:02
gemajasonsb_: we all took it as joke17:02
jasonsb_now they know17:02
gema:P17:02
gemajose-idar: around?17:03
gemaok, we are going to get going17:04
gema#topic Last week's actions17:04
gemajasonb to figure out the mechanics of getting endpoints and gurumeditationreport and maybe create a simple script that does this17:04
gemajasonsb_: did you get to it this week?17:04
jasonsb_nope17:04
gema#action jasonb to figure out the mechanics of getting endpoints and gurumeditationreport and maybe create a simple script that does this17:04
gemaok, I am going to carry over malini and jose-idar's17:05
gema#ACTION malini to try to write a test with tempest-lib that spins a VM and destroys is, as a POC17:05
gema#ACTION jose-idar to start a spec for component tests for nova (user side, no admin), so we can all contribute cases and maybe implement them at some point , but at least start to get organised17:05
gemaand three mine that are not directly related to tokyo17:05
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gema#ACTION gema to continue with the strategy doc17:05
gema#ACTION gema to write a blog post about refstack-client running17:05
gema#ACTION gema to send out the defcore details on actionable gaps17:05
gema#topic ODS Talk17:05
gema#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tailgaters-tokyo-summit-talk17:06
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gemajasonsb_: I see you've added some stuff17:06
jasonsb_i have17:06
jasonsb_still working out what I can add to the conversation17:06
gemaok17:06
gemaI think talking in person will help17:07
gemaas long as we have a few slides that we can use in the event they call us suddenly17:07
gemaI haven't added our part17:07
gemaspyderdyne: ?17:07
jasonsb_do you have a google doc for your piece?17:07
gemanope, not either17:07
jasonsb_i think you had mentioned goog doc17:07
jasonsb_ok np17:07
spyderdyneyes?17:07
spyderdynesry17:07
gemaI wanted to create a google doc presentation17:07
gemaspyderdyne: you still need to add content to the presentation, right?17:08
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spyderdynei can add some stuff17:08
spyderdyneit looks like i wont be able to attend now17:08
spyderdynebut i am here for support17:08
spyderdynewhatever you need17:09
gemaok, so you are in teh same situation as clee17:09
jasonsb_you can't go?17:09
jasonsb_:(17:09
spyderdynei am17:09
gemaI spoke to him and he won't be in tokyo17:09
spyderdynei thought i was going but they told me no at the last minute17:09
gemaI wonder what happens in these cases17:09
spyderdyneif i can provide any assistance i will be happy to17:10
gemaspyderdyne: I am still expecting someone to tell me not to go x)17:10
spyderdynebut i wont be on site to present17:10
gemaspyderdyne: I mean it can happen17:10
jasonsb_i was looking forward to strategizing in person17:10
spyderdyneyeah, it would be much better17:10
gemaspyderdyne: will you be in the next one?17:10
spyderdynewe could still run a webex tho17:10
gemaI think it is austin17:11
spyderdynei will be at the next one17:11
gemacoolio, I don't know about that one yet, we'll see17:11
gemaanyway, I think we need to decide what to do bearing in mind two of our speakers won't be present17:11
gemaspyderdyne: have you informed the openstack people?17:11
gemaas in , telling them you won't be tehre in response to their email17:12
gemaasking for phone number and stuff17:13
spyderdynei havent registered, is that adequate?17:15
spyderdynei can respond if you think i should17:15
gemaif you didn't answer to the email they sent stating that they wanted you to confirm assistance, I guess you are good17:15
gemabut I think we should ask them , if we are two speakers down, can we still be called?17:15
spyderdyneim sure you can be called until you tell them you cant present17:16
gemaok17:16
spyderdynei wish we knew how many alternates were called last summit17:16
gemaindeed17:17
gemajasonsb_: thoughts?17:17
gemaok, in any case, I would like that you and clee give us input in the overall presentation and also in the common areas17:17
gemaso that we are all in sync in the message17:18
jasonsb_opps17:18
jasonsb_snoozing17:18
jasonsb_we can reach out to the contacts17:19
jasonsb_and get their guidance17:19
jasonsb_if we have quorum we are fine17:19
gemacoolio17:19
jasonsb_but i'm not sure if we have?17:19
gemawhat is quorum, agreement?17:19
jasonsb_enough speakers17:20
gemasoo far we have 3 out of however many we were17:20
jasonsb_or speaker proxies17:20
gemaspeakers more17:20
gema517:20
gemayeah, if someone from cisco and dreamhost were there to represent you two in case we have to present, that'd be also an option17:20
jasonsb_if one of us can give sppyderdynes piece then maybe its fine?17:20
gemaor that17:20
spyderdynesure17:20
jasonsb_somebody from cisco/dreamhost is better17:21
gemajasonsb_: even better, we could all present each other's stuff17:21
gemathat means we have understood what the others are doing17:21
gemaand we can talk about each other's work17:21
gemabut that'll require a bit more preparation17:21
spyderdyneim asking around to see if i can find a proxy17:22
gemaspyderdyne: ok, you can let us know, I will ask clee for the same17:22
gemaand see if we get a proxy for each17:22
gemathe rest of actions we had were about the presentation17:23
jasonsb_did spyderdyne get a repo?17:23
gemano idea17:24
gemawe can talk about his project now17:24
gemalet me summarize what is left of the actions for the presentation17:24
spyderdynei just added some stuff17:25
gema#action gema to talk to clee and see if he can get someone from dreamhost present in tokyo in case we have to present17:25
spyderdynei didnt get a repo17:25
spyderdynejust have a web server for now17:25
spyderdynestill working on it17:25
gema#action all, to continue working on the presentation17:25
spyderdyne#Cisco Systems- Openstack Mythos Project (Scale Testing)  - Odin (Rally Wrapper)  - Medusa (Instance and Network Testing)  - Janus (Cleanup Scripting)  - Mania (Sanity Testing)17:25
gemaspyderdyne: you said you wanted to share something or show us something17:26
gemaright?17:26
spyderdynei need to complete my docs17:26
gemado you want us to have a webex or a hangout next week?17:26
gemaand we can talk about the talk and about your project17:27
spyderdynethen i can work with whoever is able to present17:27
gemaspyderdyne: ok17:27
spyderdynewill try to find someone from my org, if not can work with one of you17:27
jasonsb_i think we should make a stackforge17:27
gemajasonsb_: what's wrong with github?17:27
jasonsb_because spyerdyne17:27
spyderdynei could work with a stackforge17:27
spyderdyneor git17:27
spyderdynegit preferred17:27
spyderdynelots of folks are abandoning stackforge17:28
gemayep, if you put it on github we can always move it to the official project when we have it17:28
jasonsb_or straight to openstack17:28
jasonsb_ok sure17:28
gemajasonsb_: can we commit to openstack?17:28
spyderdynerackspace moved to ansible, at&t is just using chef to bootstrap puppet/mirantis now17:28
jasonsb_i think straight to openstack then17:28
spyderdynecan someone figure out how to get a space for me?17:29
gemaa space for you where?17:29
gemaopenstack?17:29
jasonsb_i think make a launchpad17:29
spyderdynewherever17:29
jasonsb_#link http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html17:29
jasonsb_old though17:29
spyderdynelaunchpad is fine17:29
spyderdyneto get started17:29
gemathen put it in launchpad17:29
gemaI can make us a team17:29
spyderdynewe just need some place to put stuff17:29
spyderdyneok17:29
jasonsb_Note: All projects should use the openstack/ namespace regardless of whether they are or intend to become official OpenStack projects.17:29
jasonsb_sounds pretty inclusive17:30
spyderdynehow do we get a spot in there?17:30
gemahttps://launchpad.net/~openstack-tailgate17:30
gemaso, gimme a few lp ids17:30
gemaand I will add you17:30
gemawe can then create projects and make this team the maintainer17:31
gemaor just have a few branches on the team itself17:31
gemaspyderdyne: do you have a launchpad id?17:31
spyderdynei do17:31
spyderdynepretty sure its spyderdyne17:31
spyderdyneverifying17:32
jasonsb_https://launchpad.net/~jason-bishop17:32
spyderdynehttps://launchpad.net/~spyderdyne17:32
gemaok, I added you17:32
gemaI have left it open17:32
gemaso anyone can join, I think17:32
spyderdynegood deal17:32
gemaif it gets out of hand, we can always moderate it17:32
gemaI will make you two admins17:33
gemabecause I can xD17:33
spyderdynei see the memebership17:33
gemathat way we share admin tasks if there is ever any17:33
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beisnero/17:33
gemabeisner: !17:33
jasonsb_wheee17:34
beisner ./!\17:34
beisnerwho is this  guy17:34
spyderdyneI'm a real boy now!17:34
spyderdynelol17:34
gemax)17:34
jasonsb_spyderdyne, if you up for it, if we could post your code in repo17:34
jasonsb_i think that would be really nice17:34
spyderdynewill do17:35
gemaspyderdyne: excellent, thanks17:35
spyderdynei have lots of making things friendly to do now :)17:35
gema#action everyone to join the launchpad team that we created to host code: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-tailgate17:35
gema#link https://launchpad.net/~openstack-tailgate17:35
spyderdyneand maybe 20 copies of the apache license to paste17:35
gemaok, so what do we do next week17:36
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gemairc meeting or video?17:36
spyderdynelets webex17:36
spyderdyneor gchat17:37
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gemaspyderdyne: ok17:37
gemaspyderdyne: I will send a link to a hangout to the mailing17:37
spyderdyneok17:37
gemaI doubt we'll reach critical mass anyway17:37
spyderdyneprobably not17:37
gema#link https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/openstack-tailgate17:38
gemathere you go, our meeting room17:38
gema:)17:38
gemaoh, maybe I will need to create a public one17:38
gemanevermind, will do that17:38
gema#action gema to create a public hangout for next week's meeting17:39
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jasonsbgema before i forget,  when do you arrive?17:39
gemajasonsb: monday morning17:40
jasonsbnice17:40
gemayou?17:40
jasonsb3pm17:40
gemayeah, I will probably be shopping by that time17:41
gemaI arrive at 9:3017:41
gemaam17:41
beisneri think i arrive sun mid-afternoon17:41
gemabeisner: well done17:42
gemayou'll have time to see stuff :)17:42
jasonsbwish i was going to be there earlier now17:42
jasonsbi'll be there all fri tho17:42
gemayep, me too17:42
gemabut we'll have work to do on friday17:43
gemaI hope :D17:43
jasonsbthere is also defcore17:43
gemayes17:43
gemajasonsb: did you make it to their meeting yesterday?17:43
jasonsbsorry, didn't mean to hijack your convo17:43
jasonsbi was there17:44
jasonsbbut only last half17:44
gema#topic defcore17:44
gemaok, and what did you get from it?17:44
jasonsbgenerally the state of the api's17:44
jasonsbeven glance v1 vs v2 is a problem17:45
jasonsbthere is alot of work to do17:45
jasonsbi think rally is still on v117:45
gemayeah, there are compatiblity conversations ongoing, but that is good17:46
jasonsbthis is good17:46
gemapeople have to have a good reason to move to a newer api17:46
jasonsbbut for interop, there is a long way to go17:46
gemajasonsb: yes17:47
jasonsb(this is fine)17:47
gemayes17:47
gemaok, fair enough17:47
gemais there anything else you want to discuss?17:48
jasonsbi don't have whole defcore convo in my head yet17:48
jasonsbstill picking up17:48
gemajasonsb: it takes time17:48
gemaplus, I don't think any single person except for Chris maybe, has it17:48
gemaok, calling it a day then17:49
gema#endmeeting17:49
openstackMeeting ended Thu Oct  1 17:49:12 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:49
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-10-01-17.00.html17:49
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-10-01-17.00.txt17:49
jasonsbthank you for making launchpad17:49
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-10-01-17.00.log.html17:49
gemathank you all for coming17:51
jasonsbthank you for making launchpad17:53
jasonsbhow to make git repo?17:53
jasonsbi'll look17:53
gemajasonsb: I am not sure you can, you use bzr17:53
gemais launchpad compatible with git already?17:53
jasonsbsorry17:53
jasonsbmeant to get a openstack/tailgate repo17:54
gemahttps://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git17:54
jasonsbi think we have to submit a gerrit for that17:54
gemait can be git17:54
gemajasonsb: the default tool is bzr17:54
gemabut I'd like to see some git there as well17:54
gema:D17:54
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jasonsblet me see too17:55
gemajasonsb: I can create a project as well and link them together17:58
gemathat'll make pushing easier17:58
gemaunless people mess it up17:58
gema(which is easy)17:58
jasonsbsounds good17:58
gemawhat license for the code?18:00
gemawhat license is openstack?18:00
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jasonsbapache 218:03
jasonsbbut its a question for the person writing the code18:03
jasonsbif you want in openstack i think it has to be apache218:03
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gemajasonsb: https://launchpad.net/openstack-tailgate18:05
gemacan you see if you can change details?18:05
gemafor some reason it doesn't let me make the team the maintainer18:05
gemaI think launchpad hasn't propagated all the info yet18:05
gemajasonsb: I am making it git18:06
jasonsbi have a change-details button18:06
gemagood then we are set18:06
gemawhenever I can I will change the maintainer or talk to my friends in the launchpad team18:06
gemaxD18:07
jasonsbi can change description so i think its working18:07
gema(sigh, another launchpad bug)18:07
jasonsbbug?18:07
jasonsblooks ok for me18:07
gemajasonsb: ok18:07
gemajasonsb: I wanted to make our team the maintainer18:07
gemanot me18:07
gemax)18:07
jasonsboh18:07
gemajasonsb: don't worry, I will sort it out18:08
gemaif you can edit stuff that's good18:08
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cleehey guys18:32
cleesorry I missed the meeting this morning!18:32
jasonsbclee: hallo19:00
jasonsbyou can make up for it by presenting in tokyo19:00
jasonsb:)19:02
cleehaha, I wish19:14
cleeI can't make it to tokyo :/19:14
jasonsb:(19:20
jasonsbhttps://launchpad.net/~openstack-tailgate19:20
jasonsbwe have launchpad and repo19:20
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