| opendevreview | Jianjian Huo proposed openstack/swift master: Object-expirer: continue to process next container on listing errors https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930393 | 00:52 |
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| opendevreview | Jianjian Huo proposed openstack/swift master: Object-expirer: continue to process next container on listing errors https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930393 | 01:01 |
| opendevreview | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/mpu: merge master to feature/mpu https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930480 | 14:44 |
| opendevreview | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/mpu: mpu: cleanup mpu GET and HEAD response headers. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930369 | 14:50 |
| opendevreview | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/mpu: WIP: func test symlink to MPU https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930235 | 14:50 |
| opendevreview | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/mpu: func tests: fix etag-quoter insertion in pipeline https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930482 | 14:50 |
| opendevreview | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/mpu: mpu: fix listParts response headers https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930483 | 14:50 |
| opendevreview | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift master: implement_spooky_action_at_distance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930491 | 15:52 |
| opendevreview | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: proxy: fix is_useful_response for py2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930500 | 18:00 |
| timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Sep 25 21:00:02 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| fulecorafa | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliver | o/ | 21:01 |
| timburke | as usual, the agenda's at | 21:01 |
| timburke | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:01 |
| timburke | first up | 21:01 |
| timburke | #topic PTG | 21:02 |
| timburke | it's only a month away! | 21:02 |
| acoles | o/ sorry I'm late | 21:02 |
| timburke | we *are* signed up now, at least :-) | 21:02 |
| timburke | registration is appreciated | 21:02 |
| timburke | #link https://ptg2024.openinfra.dev/ | 21:02 |
| mattoliver | oh yeah, need to add topics to the etherpad. I'll try and think of things you haven't added today. | 21:03 |
| timburke | and we need to choose some meeting slot times | 21:03 |
| timburke | #link https://framadate.org/LQOsGVVWXDhXqQUw | 21:03 |
| timburke | i'll aim to start booking slots around this time next week | 21:03 |
| timburke | and following up on what mattoliver said, please add topics to the etherpad as you think of them | 21:04 |
| timburke | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/swift-ptg-epoxy | 21:04 |
| timburke | and i'll aim to flesh out the ones i already added some more | 21:04 |
| mattoliver | kk | 21:06 |
| timburke | i think that's most everything for the PTG for now | 21:06 |
| timburke | #topic labeled metrics | 21:06 |
| timburke | we've been running with this in prod for a bit now, and i hear our SRE have even started making some per-tenant dashboards based on it | 21:07 |
| timburke | currently two main patches worth looking at | 21:07 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/909882 | 21:07 |
| patch-bot | patch 909882 - swift - stats: API for native labeled metrics - 36 patch sets | 21:07 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/917711 | 21:07 |
| patch-bot | patch 917711 - swift - Add labeled metrics to proxy-logging - 19 patch sets | 21:07 |
| timburke | we were talking this morning and i think there's a growing consensus that it's about ready to merge! | 21:08 |
| timburke | so we probably ought to find some time to review it :P | 21:08 |
| jianjian | saw the new labeled metrics on Grafana panels yesterday, looked great! | 21:08 |
| jianjian | SRE also said there were some issues with Grafana, probably not related to the patches, sorry forgot what it is | 21:10 |
| mattoliver | kk, then I'll try and get around to review it. although I'll be off on vacation next week.. so have to see where I get to. | 21:10 |
| timburke | i don't know that i have much more to say about it, just wanted to call it out since we haven't mentioned it for a bit and ask for some review bandwidth :-) | 21:10 |
| timburke | #topic pyeclib wheels | 21:11 |
| timburke | mattoliver's been taking a look at the start of the chain! thanks, mattoliver! | 21:11 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/pyeclib/+/817498 | 21:11 |
| patch-bot | patch 817498 - pyeclib - Add Dockerfile to build manylinux wheels - 18 patch sets | 21:11 |
| jianjian | i will try to take a look of those two patches | 21:12 |
| timburke | thanks, jianjian! | 21:12 |
| timburke | i rechecked the rest of the patches in the chain; they'd failed with some transient repo error last week | 21:13 |
| timburke | once we have those (and maybe mattoliver's p 930171) i think i'd like to get a fresh pyeclib release out | 21:14 |
| patch-bot | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/pyeclib/+/930171 - pyeclib - Call liberasurecode_instance_destroy in destructor - 3 patch sets | 21:14 |
| timburke | oh, and i made a pyeclib/liberasurecode dashboard for myself, but maybe other people would find it useful, too | 21:16 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/dashboard/?title=Erasure+Code+Patches&liberasurecode%20(Active)=project:openstack/liberasurecode+is:open+-age:12w&pyeclib%20(Active)=project:openstack/pyeclib+is:open+-age:12w&liberasurecode%20(Landed)=project:openstack/liberasurecode+is:merged+-age:2w&pyeclib%20(Landed)=project:openstack/pyeclib+is:merged+-age:2w | 21:16 |
| mattoliver | yeah, I'll add it to my gerrit thanks tim! Nice | 21:17 |
| mattoliver | yeah, I'm on an pyeclib wave atm, so want to finish the wheels chain. | 21:17 |
| jianjian | nice dashboard .... wow, quite a lot of patches | 21:17 |
| acoles | I like a dashboard :) | 21:17 |
| timburke | :D | 21:17 |
| * diablo_rojo sneaks in the back of the room | 21:18 | |
| timburke | fwiw, i modeled it after another of my favorites -- i forget if i shared it here before | 21:18 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/dashboard/?title=The Fortnight That Was&foreach=-age:2week&Landed (Server)=is:merged project:openstack/swift&Landed (Client)=is:merged project:openstack/python-swiftclient&Active (Server)=is:open project:openstack/swift&Active (Client)=is:open project:openstack/python-swiftclient&Abandoned (Server)=is:abandoned project:openstack/swift&Abandoned (Client)=is:abandoned project:openstack/python-sw | 21:18 |
| timburke | iftclient | 21:18 |
| timburke | bah! too long! | 21:18 |
| timburke | also it botched the spaces :-/ | 21:19 |
| timburke | oh well | 21:19 |
| diablo_rojo | timburke: chuck it in a paste or an etherpad? | 21:19 |
| timburke | thanks :-) doesn't matter too much right now | 21:20 |
| timburke | next up | 21:20 |
| timburke | #topic s3api bugs | 21:20 |
| timburke | sorry, fulecorafa, i think these are still languishing :-( | 21:20 |
| fulecorafa | All good hehe :) | 21:21 |
| timburke | again, though, i really want to get to them -- at the very least, dig into the traceback | 21:21 |
| acoles | I'm waiting for "The fortnight that will be" dashboard ;-) | 21:21 |
| timburke | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/2081103 | 21:21 |
| patch-bot | Bug #2081103 - s3api: Deleting the current version of an object can (sometimes?) 500 (New) | 21:21 |
| timburke | that's about all i've got | 21:22 |
| fulecorafa | timburke if you want any help exploring this bug in the future, feel free to call me | 21:22 |
| timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:22 |
| diablo_rojo | I've got a topic :) | 21:22 |
| timburke | fulecorafa, thanks! | 21:22 |
| timburke | diablo_rojo, go ahead! | 21:23 |
| fulecorafa | I mean this because I tried replicating the bug with some tens of thousands of buckets in my machine and could not. Possible needed a bigger throughput | 21:23 |
| diablo_rojo | A university in North Dakota is looking for projects for students to do for the next semester (starting in January and going till May). Since you mentored for Carnegie Mellon and that seemed to go well I wanted to see if you might be interested in doing it again? | 21:23 |
| diablo_rojo | I don't need project descriptions till probably December so you have time. | 21:24 |
| diablo_rojo | Just wanted to toss it out there :) | 21:24 |
| diablo_rojo | Overall it would be very similar to the last bout, just a different university and timezone. | 21:24 |
| diablo_rojo | This is a senior capstone course so the students are in their last 1-3 semesters of their CS degrees. | 21:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Any questions? Or immediate thoughts? | 21:25 |
| timburke | the CMU students were located in Qatar; do we know whether the north dakota students are there or elsewhere? | 21:27 |
| diablo_rojo | They will be in North Dakota this time. | 21:27 |
| diablo_rojo | So US Central. | 21:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Good question! | 21:27 |
| timburke | cool! should simplify some things :-) | 21:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Yes for sure :) | 21:27 |
| mattoliver | Jan to May, so a longer stint though. And might be mostly during my night | 21:28 |
| timburke | i think we're interested -- just need to think of some good project(s) | 21:28 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah it'll be a full semester instead of a summer course. | 21:28 |
| diablo_rojo | Maybe you can get acoles in on the party mattoliverau and timburke :) | 21:28 |
| timburke | or even clayg :-) | 21:28 |
| diablo_rojo | timburke: sweet! When would you like me to bother you again about this? :) | 21:28 |
| timburke | yes please! | 21:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Ah yes! clayg as well :) | 21:29 |
| mattoliver | maybe we get policy migration fully working :P | 21:29 |
| acoles | not a huge overlap with my time zone | 21:29 |
| diablo_rojo | timburke: lol yes I plan to, but when should I poke again? How much time do you need to get the proposal together? | 21:29 |
| timburke | how about we check in again after the ptg? | 21:30 |
| diablo_rojo | timburke: you got it :) | 21:30 |
| diablo_rojo | Any other questions from anyone? | 21:30 |
| diablo_rojo | acoles: the students might not necessarily be working during normal US timezone hours since they are in school - they could be largely nocturnal for all I know. I was as a student :) | 21:31 |
| * diablo_rojo lets timburke have the floor back and moves to the back of the room | 21:31 | |
| fulecorafa | I also have a topic | 21:32 |
| timburke | fulecorafa, go ahead! | 21:32 |
| fulecorafa | So, just to update, we're moving on here on our development to object-locking | 21:32 |
| fulecorafa | Just doing a heads up here and if you have any implementation suggestions, I'm all years | 21:33 |
| fulecorafa | In the mean time, we're looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/ideas/object-lock | 21:33 |
| fulecorafa | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/ideas/object-lock | 21:33 |
| fulecorafa | I've seen this some months ago, we'll be joining the discussion soon. | 21:34 |
| mattoliver | You coming to the PTG. Good place to discuss :) | 21:35 |
| fulecorafa | Sorry, haven't quite looked at PTG yet. But will certainly bring it if I go | 21:35 |
| mattoliver | its remote and free | 21:36 |
| acoles | do we know who was the author of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/ideas/object-lock ? | 21:36 |
| mattoliver | and we can put some time aside to talk about plans, ideas, or even progress. | 21:36 |
| fulecorafa | There is a thread in mailing list | 21:37 |
| fulecorafa | Just a sec... | 21:37 |
| fulecorafa | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/PGHHFTIUU4DIICVPV4D4CSK2QYIJ5QUV/#UPR35ONG53AZWE4MF7VKLCX22GO63D72 | 21:37 |
| timburke | the hard parts seem likely to be around eventual consistency/partial failures, and maybe auth. i'd recommend thinking about some good probe tests | 21:37 |
| timburke | (though it might be a little tricky given how small the "cluster" is) | 21:37 |
| mattoliver | maybe even create a collab etherpad doc to brainstorm ideas async? better then the wiki probably. | 21:37 |
| fulecorafa | Thanks mattoliver! I'll lookup some information on how to participate as soon as I'm available | 21:37 |
| acoles | thanks fulecorafa | 21:38 |
| mattoliver | I'd be interested in helping brainstorm etc. Always better with more heads and upstream from the start ;) | 21:39 |
| fulecorafa | Also the etherpad seems like a great idea. Any place of discussion actually. | 21:39 |
| acoles | adding any metadata to objects currently replaces all existing metadata | 21:39 |
| fulecorafa | I also have some collegues that would like to participate in this conversation, although async, so yeah, | 21:40 |
| fulecorafa | acoles yes but we're regularly using it for some other features. Maybe just being careful about changing this could be enough? | 21:40 |
| timburke | or we develop some new "sticky meta" namespace, where metadata items are individually reconciled similar to account/container meta | 21:41 |
| acoles | yes, it'll likely require inventing an entirely new other-metadata concept | 21:42 |
| timburke | i seem to recall us talking about the idea some years ago, though i don't think anyone ever devoted any code to it | 21:42 |
| acoles | we sort of have it for the special case of content-type | 21:43 |
| fulecorafa | But that's it. Just giving a heads up. We'll be working on it in the next weeks/months | 21:45 |
| mattoliver | cool! | 21:46 |
| acoles | maybe there's some opportunity around Lock in that it'll be the *last* metadata update on the object, ... ever IIUC 🤷 | 21:46 |
| timburke | very cool! i'm not sure how best to help, but i'm interested! | 21:47 |
| timburke | all right, i think i'll call the meeting a little early | 21:49 |
| timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:49 |
| timburke | #endmeeting | 21:49 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Sep 25 21:49:28 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:49 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/swift/2024/swift.2024-09-25-21.00.html | 21:49 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/swift/2024/swift.2024-09-25-21.00.txt | 21:49 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/swift/2024/swift.2024-09-25-21.00.log.html | 21:49 |
| mattoliver | cool breakfast time! | 21:52 |
| opendevreview | Jianjian Huo proposed openstack/swift master: common: add memcached based cooperative token mechanism. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/890174 | 21:53 |
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