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| kota_ | btw, I got approval to travel to Shanghai PTG from my company so I'll buy the ticket before the price increasing. | 05:33 |
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| kota_ | I've changed bouncer instance type to decrease the cost and it looks like to have no recent log for now. | 06:40 |
| kota_ | but... it looks like it succeeded to join the channel? | 06:41 |
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| timburke | good morning | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Give ECAppIter greenthreads a chance to wrap up https://review.opendev.org/665773 | 16:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Make backport releases conform to existing CHANGELOG formatting https://review.opendev.org/673118 | 17:35 |
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| clayg | timburke: i'd like to get more of your thoughts about "legacy SLO" and https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/2d25fe6 and how it effects hardlinks | 19:31 |
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| clayg | Because honestly I don't think that it should have a special case note - all the special symlink handling for hardlinks is already gross, an excemption is just more coupling | 19:35 |
| clayg | OTOH, we can't very well have hardlinks doing a GET on the manifest and parsing it to figure out the size | 19:35 |
| clayg | so the best option is what... a callback into SLO that will "get_size" in a legacy compatible way? | 19:35 |
| clayg | has slo_etag always been stored in the override header or is that a gap on leagcy data as well? | 19:36 |
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| timburke | nope, another (wider) gap | 20:10 |
| timburke | but i agree, we don't really want to have to get and parse the manifest -- part of why i was thinking we'd just say "eh, there may be some weird differences on legacy data" | 20:11 |
| timburke | but maybe that's not so nice for the upgrade path | 20:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift master: Increase node_timeout for real sever unittests https://review.opendev.org/674691 | 20:44 |
| clayg | so it really only "works" for SLOs written after encryption | 20:53 |
| clayg | well then what's wrong will letting hardlinks in the general sense *not* carry forward SLO etag/bytes into listings - and only hardlinks to SLOs created in versioned writes containers do the "right" thing in the name of transparency for versioned_writes? | 20:54 |
| clayg | at least it would be consistent and reliable behavior? | 20:54 |
| clayg | I mean in the versioned writes case they're not even doing a head - they just have th erequest/resp that created the manifest handy so they manipulate the hardlink creating request (and container updating headers) in whatever manor they see fit. | 20:56 |
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| clayg | it's going to be a little akward to make use_symlinks default to false and still get the functional test coverage we want, in fact it's maybe kind of annoying that the functests care so much how versioned writes is implemented :\ | 21:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift master: Allow "harder" symlinks https://review.opendev.org/633094 | 21:41 |
| timburke | idk that it'd be so reliable though -- or are we just not going to worry about the SLO that got written down pre-encryption but never overwritten until after symlink-backed versioning? | 21:43 |
| timburke | i agree that the tempest tests being so opinionated is a bit annoying -- i suppose it's in part our own fault for not fully developing the versioning API earlier | 21:44 |
| timburke | idk when those checks were actually written, though -- maybe we were screwed more or less to begin with | 21:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: py3: port RBAC func tests https://review.opendev.org/674703 | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Allow non-default domain to be used in func tests https://review.opendev.org/674704 | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: py3: decode stdout from backgrounded servers https://review.opendev.org/674705 | 21:51 |
| clayg | So in the common case we’re overwriting an object with a new PUT manifest request that SLO just decorated for us - you’re thinking of DELETE pop? Where we want to hardlink to an older version of the manifest? 😞 | 22:02 |
| clayg | I wasn’t even thinking about tempest functests. Our own test suite as written wont pass against old version writes - I guess we need to support both based on cluster info. 😞 | 22:04 |
| timburke | i'm thinking of data that's sitting in the primary container, written down before symlink-backed versioning was a thing, then gets overwritten (and so copied out to the archive container) | 22:04 |
| clayg | Oh, SLO doesn’t get a chance to redecorate COPYs? | 22:04 |
| timburke | oh yeah, i suppose our func tests are like that, too... | 22:04 |
| timburke | nope :-( we put things like `... copy dlo slo versioned_writes symlink encryption ...` as i recall | 22:05 |
| timburke | so VW's stuck reimplementing copy :-/ | 22:05 |
| timburke | on the plus side, that means that VW can properly version things on COPY, tho | 22:06 |
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| timburke | i mean, i guess we could always put more knowledge into VW... it's not like it's some pristine, pure thing as it is... | 22:08 |
| timburke | but i don't actually think that's a good idea | 22:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Allow non-default domain to be used in func tests https://review.opendev.org/674704 | 22:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: py3: Cover account/container func tests https://review.opendev.org/645388 | 22:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Increase node_timeout for real sever unittests https://review.opendev.org/674691 | 23:54 |
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