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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: fix documentation of default https://review.openstack.org/626026 | 02:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pete Zaitcev proposed openstack/swift master: py3: adapt the account server completely https://review.openstack.org/613505 | 03:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Pete Zaitcev proposed openstack/swift master: Add a comment about the module list for py3 in tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/626077 | 03:37 |
| kota_ | hello world | 03:45 |
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| mattoliverau | kota_: o/ | 05:19 |
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| rledisez | notmyname: i won't attend the meeting tonight. be sure to congrat everybody for me about the release of swift 2.20 ;) | 16:11 |
| notmyname | rledisez: thanks for letting me know | 16:12 |
| notmyname | next meeting is in january (no meeting next week) | 16:12 |
| notmyname | have a merry christmas | 16:12 |
| rledisez | ok, you too | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: py3: adapt the account server completely https://review.openstack.org/613505 | 19:58 |
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| kota_ | morning | 20:59 |
| mattoliverau | morning | 21:00 |
| notmyname | swift team meeting time in #openstack-meeting (last meeting of 2018) | 21:01 |
| timburke | ok, so mattoliverau: there are two basic types that will always match between py2 and py3: bytes and unicode. (py3 doesn't technically have a `unicode`, but u'...' works just fine) | 21:25 |
| timburke | separate from that (in my mind), there's a third type: str. this is bytes on py2 and unicode on py3 | 21:25 |
| timburke | (seriously, `str is bytes` is True on py2, and *instead of* having a `unicode`, py3 just has `str`) | 21:26 |
| timburke | https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3333/ forces us to invent another type though. all the important string-y values in the wsgi environment must be native strings, but the server lacks any context to know what encoding would be appropriate! | 21:29 |
| timburke | see also https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3333/#a-note-on-string-types which says 'even if Python's str type is actually Unicode "under the hood", the content of native strings must still be translatable to bytes via the Latin-1 encoding!' | 21:30 |
| timburke | so to deal with utf-8 data on py3, we have to first re-encode the latin-1 string to get bytes, then decode it as utf-8 to get it into a form such as we'd stuff into a db or return to a client via json | 21:34 |
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| mattoliverau | wow, that is.. I don't know what to call it.. horrible (?). thanks timburke. | 22:21 |
| timburke | yeah... like, i understand it (particularly in the case where a single wsgi server needs to handle multiple applications), but it's pretty bad :-( | 22:22 |
| timburke | but whenever you see a str_to_wsgi or wsgi_to_bytes -- that's what's going on | 22:23 |
| timburke | i'd much prefer it if we had a way to tell the server, "hey, here's the encoding i want" | 22:26 |
| timburke | (though we'd still have to worry about non-UTF-8 object metadata...) | 22:26 |
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| mattoliverau | great explaination, thanks timburke (sorry needed to go to a meeting). | 23:54 |
| timburke | no worries :-) | 23:54 |
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