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| kota_ | I'm at my office. If someone wants to ask about symlink, anytime poke me to head up. | 00:36 |
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| kota_ | notmyname: btw, can i assume Swift has 3 working days (i.e. until Friday evening) in the next PTG? | 01:03 |
| notmyname | yes, that's what I signed up for | 01:03 |
| kota_ | notmyname: thank you! | 01:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pete Zaitcev proposed openstack/swift master: PUT+POST and its development test https://review.openstack.org/427911 | 03:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Remove repeated text from deployment guide https://review.openstack.org/526141 | 08:56 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: Refactor proxy-server conf loading to a helper function https://review.openstack.org/525728 | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Add part/suffix/hash to tempdir only where needed https://review.openstack.org/526499 | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift master: Fix suffix-byte-range responses for zero-byte replicated objects. https://review.openstack.org/526500 | 20:13 |
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| patchbot | clayg I'm still alive!! (just not in the -meeting channel) | 20:59 |
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| clayg | oic, wc - that makes more sense | 21:00 |
| clayg | patchbot: thanks! | 21:00 |
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| zaitcev | guys, I have a silliest question - in the Symlink patch, we have, in swift/container/sync.py: from swift.common.middleware.symlink import blah. Does this concern anyone? Intellectually I understand that we probably aren't opening a door to an annoying recursive import, but...? | 21:59 |
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| clayg | zaitcev: I think your gut it right - that smells... | 22:08 |
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| clayg | but idk, it seems to make sense... | 22:11 |
| timburke | we're already baking in knowledge of the client headers -- i think i'd be ok with hardcoding the backend header, too... | 22:11 |
| clayg | so leave the logic there but use a literal instead of importing it... | 22:11 |
| zaitcev | I was only thinking about importing from some place like swift/common/constraints.py. | 22:11 |
| clayg | we've gone round and round on using stringly typing headers in the swift code base | 22:12 |
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| clayg | I have a strong but not well founded preference to never use constants when a header will do - I claim it makes sense because of the whole CONSTANT.lower() and 'HTTP_' + CONSTANT.replace('-', '_').upper() non-sense that goes on otherwise | 22:13 |
| clayg | s/when a header/when a good string literal/ | 22:13 |
| clayg | it's not really a "single source of truth" issue that causes you to normally want a constant | 22:14 |
| clayg | of course some people's editors help auto complete constants better than strings - I've configured my auto-complete to work for either - as long as the string of chars exists in my code base somewhere I can find it with ctrl-p | 22:15 |
| zaitcev | Well it's true that having a weird-ass function that prepends 'object' or 'account' to a string may be a little obfuscating, and that's what we're importing (from a middleware, as it happens). | 22:15 |
| timburke | i also feel like it's something that'd be just fine to do as a follow-up | 22:15 |
| clayg | +200 ^ | 22:16 |
| zaitcev | okay | 22:16 |
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| acoles | fwiw I like constants because I can find all usages with a single key shortcut, I need to explore if my IDE will autocomplete strings like clayg does | 22:20 |
| zaitcev | I use grep -i | 22:20 |
| acoles | but there's an inconsistency in sync.py - 'X-Symlink-Target' could be TGT_OBJ_SYMLINK_HDR etc | 22:22 |
| acoles | and if we're going to have a constant it should be used consistently otherwise we have two things to search for | 22:23 |
| acoles | follow-up is fine though | 22:24 |
| zaitcev | so, which one | 22:24 |
| acoles | zaitcev: author's choice? I wouldn't down vote either as long as there is consistency | 22:27 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: so patch 479012 I was thinking of that solves the issue but dispersion as a metric is only considering replicas instead of part-replicas and everything-is-terrible/this-is-fine. | 23:14 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479012/ - swift - Save ring builder if dispersion changes | 23:14 |
| kota_ | I'm feeling the sync clean up can be followup | 23:22 |
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| clayg | does anyone have the short answer of why symlink requests shouldn't be conditional? | 23:32 |
| clayg | is there where all the range request to zero byte object stuff came from? | 23:33 |
| timburke | eh? they aren't? i thought they were... though i haven't played with it in a while | 23:35 |
| timburke | maybe i'm not understanding the question... but there are definitely if-match tests in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232162/75/test/functional/test_symlink.py that look to behave reasonably... | 23:37 |
| patchbot | patch 232162 - swift - Symlink implementation. | 23:37 |
| clayg | timburke: I'm referring to the code/conceptual-leak in the proxy & obj server to force symlink=get requests to NEVER be conditional (?) | 23:41 |
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| timburke | ah... the comments make more sense to me... i think the concern may be a concern if you enable symlink, create some links, then later disable it? maybe? | 23:47 |
| clayg | which comments now? | 23:47 |
| timburke | *your* comments, on the review | 23:47 |
| timburke | the symlink=get requests are *always* conditional, the normal ones are conditional provided we're not looking at a symlink... | 23:47 |
| clayg | provided we're not looking at a symlink... this has something to do with a conditional request saying something like "your byte range is bullshit bro" instead of "here's your zero byte response jackhole" | 23:48 |
| timburke | i agree that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232162/75/swift/proxy/controllers/obj.py smells a bit... it's weird... and now i wanna mess with ranged requests and symlinks | 23:50 |
| patchbot | patch 232162 - swift - Symlink implementation. | 23:50 |
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| clayg | i was really hoping a test somewhere would explain everything - but i'm still hunting... | 23:53 |
| clayg | oh... maybe test.functional.test_symlink.TestSymlinkTargetObjectComparison.testLastModified | 23:54 |
| clayg | test.functional.test_symlink.TestSymlinkTargetObjectComparison.testIfModifiedSince | 23:54 |
| clayg | ok, so the one in the proxy might be bs | 23:54 |
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| clayg | but the obj server stuff is legit - unless we could get the metadata all the way back to to the middleware... as long as it's just backend headers that get stripped out it's probably fine... hrm... | 23:56 |
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