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| mattoliverau | kota_: congrats on becoming the storlets ptl! | 00:50 |
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| kota_ | mattoliverau: oh, you know! I don't think the tc decision would be done yet, right? :P | 05:55 |
| mattoliverau | the email came out this morning :) | 05:56 |
| mattoliverau | kota_: ^ | 05:56 |
| kota_ | mattoliverau: oh really, i missed it. For openstack-dev mailing list? | 05:56 |
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| mattoliverau | kota_: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121206.html | 05:58 |
| kota_ | mattoliverau: thanks, i just found it :) | 05:58 |
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| kota_ | but patch 493846 looks still under waiting decision :/ | 05:59 |
| kota_ | patch bot? | 06:00 |
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| kota_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493846 | 06:00 |
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| kota_ | hmm... patch bot is absent today | 06:01 |
| kota_ | perhaps he is in vacation :P | 06:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Fix deadlock when logging from a tpool thread. https://review.openstack.org/493636 | 06:22 |
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| kota_ | oh, that deadlock fix got merged, nice. | 06:23 |
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| acoles | good morning | 07:28 |
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| fanzhang | acoles: good afternoon :) | 07:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | junbo.li proposed openstack/swift master: Unsupported 'message' Exception attribute in PY3 https://review.openstack.org/487011 | 08:18 |
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| kota_ | good morning acoles | 08:42 |
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| acoles | kota_: o/ | 09:10 |
| joeljwright | acoles: kota_: good morning | 09:10 |
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| kota_ | good morning joeljwright | 09:11 |
| acoles | joeljwright: good morning | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Remove unnecessary exception handling https://review.openstack.org/484428 | 09:31 |
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| kota_ | cbartz: here? | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | junbo.li proposed openstack/swift master: Unsupported 'message' Exception attribute in PY3 https://review.openstack.org/487011 | 10:44 |
| cbartz | kota_: Yes | 10:52 |
| cbartz | I am just reading your newest comment | 10:53 |
| kota_ | hello cbartz | 10:54 |
| kota_ | yeah, just pushed it out | 10:55 |
| kota_ | cbartz: I mainly concern user affection, right now on the patch. I think quota is not only reference when the used-bytes exceeded but the capacity planning for users | 10:57 |
| kota_ | the idea for the charge factor sounds interesting but it could be complicated for users and it seems not directly related to the quota mechanism | 10:58 |
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| kota_ | and the use case for you that operator wants to suggest cheaper strage policy via sort of account info may exactly exists | 10:59 |
| cbartz | kota_: I understand. What still is missing is the information of the policy factor, which is not presented to the user. If given, the user could plan the capacity. | 10:59 |
| kota_ | cbartz: it may be one way that we can solve my concern in the patch | 11:00 |
| kota_ | to present the factor to users. | 11:00 |
| cbartz | kota_: Yes, currently, in a public-cloud scenario, the user does not care which storage policy to use, because it is transparent for him. | 11:00 |
| kota_ | acoles: did you added me to a patch reviewer, for a while? | 11:01 |
| kota_ | s/added/add/ | 11:02 |
| acoles | kota_: yes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494172/ - I thought you might want to be aware of that change | 11:03 |
| * kota_ got notification for patch review for... fixing EC frag duplication test!! nice! | 11:03 | |
| kota_ | acoles: ok, thanks for working that. it looks... medium volume to review :/ | 11:04 |
| cbartz | kota_: btw, might you take a look an p 492935 ? Its related to the account spolicy, and its really a small patch. It fixes bug 1675776 . | 11:05 |
| openstack | bug 1675776 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "proxy.controllers.base.headers_to_account_info() should include per policy stats" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1675776 - Assigned to Christopher Bartz (bartz) | 11:05 |
| acoles | kota_: the change lines are mostly moving/refactoring - the bug fix is to ensure that the final unique fragment is on a handoff not a primary | 11:05 |
| kota_ | cbartz: not yet | 11:06 |
| cbartz | ok | 11:06 |
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| kota_ | acoles: thanks the info that helps me to review | 11:12 |
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| kota_ | acoles: done! | 11:32 |
| acoles | kota_: thank you | 11:32 |
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| rcernin | tdasilva: ready in 10min? | 12:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Bartz proposed openstack/swift master: Account Quota Factor for Storage Policies. https://review.openstack.org/482558 | 13:09 |
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| jogo_ | hi there, please advise if there is any reason why i may use ceph instead of swift.. | 13:22 |
| jogo_ | am new to both storage technologies, however due to the goodies of distributed storage systems am confused on which option to use | 13:23 |
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| tdasilva | jogo_: of course you are asking a bunch of very biased folks ;) it's like asking at a ferrari dealership if you should buy a ferrari or a toyota ;) if what you need is object storage, we would obviously said use swift. | 13:48 |
| tdasilva | jogo_: but what is your use case? what are you trying to solve? | 13:48 |
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| jogo_ | i have an old SAN running on former sun storagetek, because i need more storage, i want to move from SAN to software defined storage.. i have around 10 production vms and i need a scalable storage solution to be used to grow from 7tb to more | 13:51 |
| jogo_ | easily | 13:51 |
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| tdasilva | jogo_: so it sounds more like you need block storage?? | 13:54 |
| tdasilva | for your VMs? | 13:54 |
| jogo_ | yes, | 13:54 |
| tdasilva | ah, then you want to go ceph | 13:55 |
| tdasilva | swift is object storage only | 13:55 |
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| jogo_ | intresting thanks alot 0314161 | 13:55 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 16:03 |
| notmyname | hmm... seems patchbot died. I've restarted it | 16:03 |
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| torgomatic | I wrote a thing that lets you get all the stack traces out of a running Swift process: https://github.com/swiftstack/python-stack-xray | 18:19 |
| torgomatic | It's handy when your daemon is behaving weirdly and logs + strace isn't enough | 18:19 |
| notmyname | for those who haven't seen it yet, it's a really cool script. look at it, think, "oh ok". then look some more and think, "oh weird.... whoa! that's cool" | 18:20 |
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| timburke | i wonder how well it works when you have a mix of pthreads and greenthreads... | 18:35 |
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| tdasilva | the whole sequence of texts read kinda funny: "notmyname: hmm... seems patchbot died. I've restarted it. timburke: good morning" | 18:52 |
| notmyname | heh | 18:52 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: you're learning the swiftstack secrets!! | 18:52 |
| tdasilva | lol | 18:52 |
| tdasilva | i think mattoliverau was right | 18:53 |
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| clayg | tdasilva: nice work on patch 472659!!!! | 20:14 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472659/ - swift - Allow to rebuild a fragment of an expired object | 20:14 |
| clayg | rledisez: you too! | 20:14 |
| tdasilva | clayg: putting a +2 after you and acoles have done so is much easier | 20:16 |
| clayg | rofl | 20:16 |
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| tdasilva | i think patch 364878 is also good to go, but thinking it might be better to wait until after release to merge it | 20:17 |
| clayg | I plan to spend the next few years of my career just riding @acoles & @timburke's coattails (give @notmyname and @torgomatic a break from pulling my load) | 20:17 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364878/ - swift - Retrieve encryption root secret from Barbican | 20:17 |
| clayg | oh yeah that'll be sweet | 20:18 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: agreed. that should happen after the next release, please | 20:18 |
| notmyname | mathiasb: ^ FYI | 20:19 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: ack | 20:19 |
| clayg | tdasilva: it's pretty sweet tho - and you're talking about tagging like tomorrow right? | 20:19 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: can you go ahead and +2 it with that comment? then next week you can +A it | 20:19 |
| tdasilva | clayg: i think that was notmyname plan | 20:19 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah. tomorrow ish | 20:19 |
| torgomatic | timburke: the stack xray thing works just fine with multiple greenthreads and pthreads; gc.get_objects() goes over everything the interpreter knows about, and it makes sure to get and release the GIL in the code it calls with gdb | 20:19 |
| notmyname | I'll do the authors/changelog patch tomorrow | 20:20 |
| clayg | @torgomatic so cool | 20:20 |
| torgomatic | @clayg between this, strace, and tcpdump, it's starting to get easier to figure out WTF a Swift daemon is doing when it goes off the rails :) | 20:21 |
| clayg | @torgomatic I wish like https://wiki.python.org/moin/DebuggingWithGdb just had that script? | 20:21 |
| tdasilva | anybody read this: https://morepypy.blogspot.com/2017/08/lets-remove-global-interpreter-lock.html ? thoughts? | 20:21 |
| torgomatic | @clayg it wouldn't work unless you're using greenthreads though; it looks for things of type greenlet.greenlet and dumps their stacks | 20:22 |
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| timburke | other fairly small things we might want to consider for the release: p 340250, p 451111, p 485381, p 476992, p 474801, p 471712 | 20:26 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340250/ - swift - Add a jitter for check of time synchronization. | 20:26 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451111/ - swift - Add functests for disallowed COPYs into a versione... | 20:26 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485381/ - swift - functests: Only convert headers that should be int... | 20:26 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476992/ - swift - Make If-None-Match:* work properly with 0-byte PUTs | 20:26 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474801/ - swift - Ignore all auditor_status_*.json files in reconstr... | 20:26 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471712/ - swift - Improve domain_remap docs | 20:26 |
| tdasilva | timburke: is that in order of priority? | 20:27 |
| * timburke shrugs | 20:27 | |
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| timburke | about half of them are tests-/docs-only | 20:28 |
| timburke | the if-none-match guy is just a sneaky edge case i noticed a bit ago | 20:29 |
| clayg | tdasilva: interesting #1 I hadn't realized that STM had failed #2 I hadn't realize that anyone thought gilectemy was a good idea (pypy seems to be suggesting to do fine grained locking and remove the gil but in pypy and without the ref count problem) #3 I mostly only want threads for blocking i/o, I don't *hate* using multiprocess to get the cores (better primitives for CSP would be welcome), I think that | 20:29 |
| clayg | pushing i/o into threads managed by the eventloop (e.g. libuv/node.js/uvloop) is the most attractive answer for how I want to use threads | 20:29 |
| clayg | tdasilva: thanks for sharing! | 20:30 |
| tdasilva | clayg: and thanks for sharing your thoughts. I was curious to understand if this is something that could be beneficial to blocking i/o | 20:31 |
| timburke | i'm gonna look at patch 494172 -- already has a +2 from kota_ and everything! | 20:31 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494172/ - swift - Fix flakey EC frag duplication policy test | 20:31 |
| clayg | I don't see how it makes what we tried to do with threadpool much better unfortunately :'( | 20:31 |
| clayg | tho even with the stink on threads + python - I think now with servers per port - if we did thread per connection (on the storage servers) - we'd be ultimately happier than what we have now with blocking i/o in the event loop | 20:33 |
| clayg | uvloop on pypy3 is the dream - but as redbo likes to point out - that's like saying you'll rewrite the object server in a language that hasn't been invented yet :D | 20:34 |
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| timburke | thanks clayg! if you like, since you've already got that kinda loaded in your head, you might wanna check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468168/ | 20:55 |
| patchbot | patch 468168 - swift - Improve time_check output | 20:55 |
| clayg | timburke: that's not any better - that code is stupid - i hate recon-cli | 20:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Allow to rebuild a fragment of an expired object https://review.openstack.org/472659 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Fix flakey EC frag duplication policy test https://review.openstack.org/494172 | 22:39 |
| timburke | yeah, merge all the stuff! there are two more in the gate right now :-) | 22:42 |
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| timburke | oh, did we ever make a decision on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476953/? it's kinda weird, 'cause https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476955/ is approved... | 23:44 |
| patchbot | patch 476953 - swift - Make swift-dispersion-report importable | 23:44 |
| patchbot | patch 476955 - swift - Add bin/swift-dispersion-report | 23:44 |
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