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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: name_check: better test maximum_length https://review.openstack.org/465206 | 01:00 |
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| m_kazuhiro | good morning | 01:20 |
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| kota_ | good morning. back to Japan, office after the summit and a few day offs after the summit. | 01:27 |
| kota_ | clayg: ack for patcch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439572/ | 01:29 |
| patchbot | patch 439572 - swift - Limit number of revert tombstone SSYNC requests | 01:29 |
| kota_ | acoles: thanks for composite ring builder patch improvement, i will have a time to look at! | 01:29 |
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| mahatic | good morning | 05:40 |
| mahatic | kota_: thanks | 05:40 |
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| kota_ | mahatic: can i ask you about the patch 439572 ? | 06:30 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439572/ - swift - Limit number of revert tombstone SSYNC requests | 06:30 |
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| mahatic | kota_: sorry, I had to step away in the morning | 10:15 |
| mahatic | kota_: are you still around? | 10:15 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:58 |
| *** ChanServ changes topic to "Swift is 7 years old! | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-swift/ | Meetings: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | Review Dashboard: http://not.mn/reviews.html" | 15:58 | |
| notmyname | today is Swift's birthday! seven years ago, it was first put into prod | 15:59 |
| rledisez | happy birthday Swift! | 16:02 |
| rledisez | kudos to the creators, real storage heroes :) | 16:02 |
| notmyname | rledisez: kudos to the operators, the ones who actually give it meaning :-) | 16:05 |
| * tdasilva wishes more creators and operators would hang out here | 16:07 | |
| mwheckmann | happy bday! | 16:07 |
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| pdardeau | happy birthday Swift! | 16:09 |
| pdardeau | notmyname: you gonna provide some interesting stats today? | 16:09 |
| notmyname | pdardeau: no different than I have normally. I haven't mined for anything new (but I did bring corn casserole for the company pot-luck today) | 16:09 |
| tdasilva | heh | 16:10 |
| mwheckmann | notmyname: PS after a bunch more testing, it looks the increases in first by write latency that I reported yesterday coincided with changes in TLS certs (move to SHA256 based certs) and some other HAproxy cert/cipher related changes. So false alarm. Now if I can find a way to minimize TLS nego. time. | 16:10 |
| mwheckmann | first byte latency I mean | 16:10 |
| notmyname | mwheckmann: oh, interesting. good find! | 16:10 |
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| mahatic | happy birthday Swift! | 16:11 |
| mahatic | so that makes it my two years with Swift as well! | 16:11 |
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| notmyname | onovy: how'd the daytime traffic go today? did you break the internet? ;-) | 16:20 |
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| clayg | man... we need to get some composite ring stuff merged | 17:07 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: hi, do you happen to have a list/count of how many public clouds use swift as their object storage offering? | 17:44 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: I do not. I could list of several off the top of my head, but I know I'd be missing a lot in EU and Asia | 18:07 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: i came across this list: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/os-client-config/vendor-support.html and that got me thinking how many are using swift | 18:08 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: clouda, runabove, and softlayer are ones I know of that aren't listed there. (runabove is sortof separate, but also sortof a R&D lab for OVH?) | 18:10 |
| notmyname | I think there's a few more in China maybe, too | 18:10 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: as for stats, rerunning them right now. 673 total contributors to swift (commit authors + gerrit reviews) | 18:15 |
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| timur | should the python-swifclient default be SLO and not DLO? are there folks that rely on the default behavior being DLO? | 18:37 |
| timur | follow up question: when using the bulk delete middleware with SLO, it only deletes the manifests. Should it remove the segments as well? While it's consistent with the behavior of DELETE, it seems that it would be confusing to consumers | 18:39 |
| clayg | timur: I think there would need to be a way for the client to explicitly state they want to delete the manifest and segemnts - the bulk middleware can't just change it's behavior to start deleting them | 18:41 |
| clayg | timur: I think there's a good case to be made changing the python-swiftclient cli default from DLO to SLO - it supports both and SLO is better suited to the python-swiftclient cli use-case | 18:42 |
| clayg | timur: I'd be most worried about dropping the --use-slo flag (for scripts that have already adopted the move) | 18:43 |
| clayg | timur: but if someone added a --use-dlo flag and then with some sort of version/release bump flopped over the default when neither flag is specified - I think mostly no one would notice and everyone would be happy | 18:43 |
| clayg | timur: how's google io/offices/w/e? | 18:44 |
| timur | clayg: good point on dropping the flag. A --use-dlo flag would make sense. For the bulk delete, maybe it can understand the ?multipart-manifest=delete flag and do the right thing? would that work? | 18:45 |
| clayg | wfm | 18:45 |
| timur | the SF office is nothing special -- same as all other office buildings. The keynote is a little interesting: they announced Kotlin as the new official Android language and spent a bunch of time talking about how to monetize Youtube (more so than just ads) | 18:46 |
| clayg | oh nice, my kids basically all want to be youtubers when they grow up | 18:47 |
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| timur | one example was that you could pay to have your comment bubble up to the top and be pinned on a video... which sounds like it could go super wrong | 18:47 |
| timur | I think notmyname said that at least one of his kids wants to be a youtube blogger | 18:47 |
| timur | so, there you go! Google is trying to help them make more money :) | 18:48 |
| clayg | sweet - i'm into that | 18:50 |
| notmyname | how else are we going to be in that retirement home? | 18:51 |
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| notmyname | swift team meeting in 3 minutes in #openstack-meeting | 19:58 |
| tdasilva | moved back 1 hr? | 19:58 |
| notmyname | no. when I said 3 minutes, clearly I meant 63 minutes | 19:59 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 19:59 |
| notmyname | I totally misread my calendar. you'd think it was my first time at a swift meeting or something | 19:59 |
| notmyname | whew. in that case, back to get another plate of food ;-) | 19:59 |
| tdasilva | lol | 20:00 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: thanks for keeping me honest ;-) | 20:01 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: i really just assumed that i had missed some announcement. I think there was some convo last week about changing times and thought you guys actually changed it | 20:02 |
| notmyname | no, but that's actually something on the agenda today | 20:07 |
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| onovy | notmyname: we did | 20:21 |
| onovy | https://www.nix.cz/cs/port/mrtg2/nix-agr-114 | 20:21 |
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| notmyname | onovy: cool | 20:22 |
| onovy | look to weekly graph what is "normal" for us | 20:23 |
| notmyname | yeah :-) | 20:23 |
| notmyname | quite a spike | 20:23 |
| onovy | :) | 20:23 |
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| clayg | onovy: rledisez: ahale: briancline: you ever notice account/container "temporary" db's show up in <nodes>/<drive>/tmp/<uuid>??? | 20:42 |
| rledisez | clayg: yes, when replicator fails to replicate a big db. is that what you're thinking about? | 20:45 |
| rledisez | rsync is done in tmp folder, and then… well, it fails | 20:45 |
| notmyname | any info on *why* it fails? | 20:46 |
| clayg | hugokuo: spotted this -> https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/6e893e228840bc42cfd13546245438832bc2bb46/swift/common/db_replicator.py#L820 | 20:46 |
| hugokuo | reading | 20:47 |
| rledisez | not really. i tried to debug it a bit, increased all possible max diff/timeout values. and never got it working. i'm just waiting for container sharding ;) | 20:47 |
| clayg | in this case he has some rsync logs pointing at a race - two remote both trying to rsync onto a newly added container server around the same time - one finishes and calls complete_rsync (which flops the uuid named database into the right spot) - the other calls complete_rysnc and gets a 404 (but the container-server doesn't cleanup the uuid-named database he | 20:47 |
| clayg | left behind) | 20:47 |
| hugokuo | clayg: the db_replicator is called by container-replicator right ? | 20:48 |
| clayg | yes, but that section of the module I'm linking at is acctually the ReplicatorRpc which is running and routing requests behind the REPLCIATE verb of the replication container server | 20:50 |
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| notmyname | swift team meeting in 3 minutes (right tdasilva?) | 20:57 |
| kota_ | morning | 20:58 |
| tdasilva | heh | 20:58 |
| tdasilva | :P | 20:58 |
| notmyname | hello kota_ | 20:58 |
| kota_ | notmyname: o/ | 20:59 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: since you are allowing me to pick on you: t-minus 1.5 wks to Boston ??? | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | A cleanup in the replicator afrer a failure could be handy, or a way of continuing on the 404, but the RPC won't know the uuid of the rsynced file next time. So maybe try and cleanup after itself or maybe insert at least 1 retry in the replicator -> RPC communication | 21:00 |
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| mattoliverau | Oh and morning | 21:00 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: yep | 21:00 |
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| mattoliverau | Oh and happy birthday swift! | 21:02 |
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| rledisez | clayg: LAFS or LAWLS? i need translation for these ones (though, i like LAWLS, sounds cool :D) | 21:36 |
| clayg | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lawl | 21:36 |
| clayg | aka "the only reason anyone ever does anything on the internet" "for the lawls" | 21:36 |
| rledisez | :D | 21:37 |
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| PavelK | clayg: you +1 patch 448480 if failing probe tests will be removed. I noticed on "idea page" that probe tests should be on 8 devices, as you suggested. Do you think that this code cleanup can be merged? | 21:55 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448480/ - swift - DB replicator cleanup | 21:55 |
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| clayg | shit that was over quick | 22:02 |
| PavelK | it is code cleanup and not updated DB replica is removed if it is on enough replicas (and if it is correct solution then I would like to make simmilar cleanup for objects to patch lp bug 1690791) | 22:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690791 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Objects are not deleted from additional handoff when primary disk fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1690791 | 22:03 |
| clayg | we didn't merge that yet!??? | 22:03 |
| PavelK | no :-(, you +1 with suggestions and then was summit comming... | 22:03 |
| * kota_ is leaving to find his breakfast, will be back in the office | 22:04 | |
| clayg | PavelK: ok, thanks - i got it - i'm sure it will be great! | 22:04 |
| PavelK | thanks | 22:04 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: unfortunately https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427911/ has a merge conflict. can you help resolve that soon? | 22:15 |
| patchbot | patch 427911 - swift - PUT+POST and its development test | 22:15 |
| zaitcev | notmyname: I had it resolved locally, just wanted to keep Tim's comments visible for someone else. | 22:16 |
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| notmyname | I thought a rebase kept the comments | 22:20 |
| notmyname | I don't remember | 22:21 |
| zaitcev | True, they are still available through older versions, but you have to click in. Also, if someone sees the same space and comments on it, they are not in the same place. | 22:21 |
| notmyname | ah right. I think it's the votes that persist across a rebase | 22:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Pete Zaitcev proposed openstack/swift master: PUT+POST and its development test https://review.openstack.org/427911 | 22:28 |
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| notmyname | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews is updated. please take a look | 22:40 |
| zaitcev | yay | 22:48 |
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| notmyname | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116947.html | 22:54 |
| notmyname | clayg: you and I are mentioned in that message | 22:54 |
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| clayg | called out! | 23:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: name_check: better test maximum_length https://review.openstack.org/465206 | 23:59 |
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