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| clayg | honestly I didn't check launchpad for an open bug on a known failing probe test; but I filed lp #1653836 as a dupliate anyway | 00:05 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1652323 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "duplicate for #1653836 ssync syncs an expired object as a tombstone, probe test_object_expirer fails" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652323 | 00:05 |
| patchbot_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/1653836/ | 00:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Fix flaky expirer probe test https://review.openstack.org/416384 | 00:13 |
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| kota_ | a happy new year, world | 01:07 |
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| timburke | happy new year kota_! | 01:09 |
| kota_ | timburke: happy neew year! | 01:09 |
| kota_ | timburke: in U.S. alomost works has started to work? | 01:09 |
| kota_ | timburke: in Japan, it's a basic kick off day for all workers. | 01:10 |
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| * kota_ is going to open/read e-mail stack | 01:11 | |
| timburke | there are a fair number of people in the office, yeah. in general, though, it certainly wouldn't be surprising if someone took a longer vacation | 01:12 |
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| kota_ | timburke: sounds good to take a longer vacation ;-) | 01:16 |
| dims | timburke : ok, now i am at the same point as you i think - http://logs.openstack.org/00/412500/9/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/d453c3f/logs/screen-s-proxy.txt.gz | 01:21 |
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| timburke | dims: that actually seems more empty than i was expecting. i guess because it's running behind mod_wsgi? assuming i'm reading the log file correctly, i'm curious about what those 2376 bytes were from http://logs.openstack.org/00/412500/9/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/d453c3f/logs/apache/tls-proxy_access.txt.gz -- i wonder if that's where apache sends the traceback? | 01:56 |
| timburke | at any rate, yeah, from the "error reading status line from remote server 104.130.222.169:8081" in http://logs.openstack.org/00/412500/9/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/d453c3f/logs/apache/tls-proxy_error.txt.gz, i expect swift is bombing out without calling start_response | 01:58 |
| dims | timburke : gotcha. will have to figure out how to switch off tls-proxy or increase debug level | 01:59 |
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| mahatic_ | good morning | 04:13 |
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| mahatic_ | hope everyone had a good break. happy new year! | 04:14 |
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| mahatic_ | jrichli: acoles_ mathiasb : conf call sounds good. I'm fine either way - gerrit/call | 04:18 |
| jrichli | mahatic_: would 14:00 UTC be too late for you? | 04:18 |
| mahatic_ | jrichli: nope, I can take that | 04:19 |
| jrichli | mahatic_: thanks, i appreciate it. if you change your mind and want to move it an hour earlier, we could swing that. | 04:20 |
| mahatic_ | jrichli: but I won't be available this Friday on that time, as I will be travelling for the weekend. Today/tomm or next week any day I'm fine | 04:20 |
| jrichli | ok. i wont be ready for doing this today. | 04:21 |
| jrichli | we'll see if thursday would be ok with everyone, or see if next week is better | 04:22 |
| mahatic_ | sure, I understand | 04:22 |
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| mahatic_ | jrichli: okay, thanks | 04:22 |
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| mathiasb | jrichli mahatic_ acoles_ : friday is also not good for me, but today, tomorrow and next week all work | 08:45 |
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| acoles | mahatic_: ack, thanks | 09:22 |
| acoles | clayg: sorry you got bitten by bug 1652323. I spent the last few hours of my 2016 tracking that down :/ can't believe we had not seen it sooner | 09:24 |
| openstack | bug 1652323 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "ssync syncs an expired object as a tombstone, probe test_object_expirer fails" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652323 | 09:24 |
| acoles | clayg: I'd like to discuss with you what the appropriate fix should be - so far my thinking is we need to make diskfile support optionally opening an expired object so that ssync can replicate the .data even when it has expired. I briefly flirted with having ssync send a .ts at the expiry time, but that could result in inconsistency with another node. | 09:27 |
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| sldk | Hii all, I installed openstack swift mitaka on centos machines | 09:31 |
| sldk | after that i configured swift3 by following https://github.com/openstack/swift3 | 09:31 |
| sldk | while restarting swift-proxy service i am getting the following error http://paste.openstack.org/show/593847/ | 09:32 |
| sldk | please someone help on this | 09:32 |
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| acoles | sldk: I'm not familiar with swift3 specifically but it looks like you don't have the middleware installed in entry points, so maybe you missed the 'sudo python setup.py install' step from here https://github.com/openstack/swift3#install | 10:01 |
| sldk | acoles: I already executed "sudo python setup.py install" | 10:02 |
| sldk | acoles: FYI i am following the same link what you have provided | 10:04 |
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| acoles | sldk: can you reproduce this http://paste.openstack.org/show/593849/ ? (i.e. list the swift3 entry points) | 10:15 |
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| sldk | acoles: here is my entry points http://paste.openstack.org/show/593850/ | 10:17 |
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| charz | sldk: do you intent to use swift3 with keystone? | 10:22 |
| charz | sldk: or just want to use swift with tempauth to do some tests? | 10:23 |
| charz | sldk: if you want to use that with keystone, you need another middleware s3token and keystoneauth. | 10:23 |
| charz | sldk: you need to add s3token to proxy-server.confg. | 10:24 |
| sldk | Yes, we want to use use swift3 with keystone | 10:27 |
| sldk | We have already added s3token and keystoneauth in proxy-server.config | 10:27 |
| charz | sldk: okay, you should able to find s3token in swift3. | 10:28 |
| sldk | charz: This is the s3 token section | 10:29 |
| sldk | [filter:s3token] use = egg:swift3#s3token auth_uri = http://192.168.0.4:35357/ | 10:30 |
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| sldk | and below is the keystoneauth section | 10:31 |
| sldk | [filter:keystoneauth] | 10:31 |
| sldk | use = egg:swift#keystoneauth | 10:31 |
| sldk | operator_roles = admin,user | 10:31 |
| acoles | sldk: ok, so you entry points map does not have swift3#s3token, and it looks like s3token was moved into swift3 in v1.11, so check you have latest version of swift3 | 10:32 |
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| sldk | acoles : Our swift3 version shows Version: 1.11.0.dev491 | 10:34 |
| ksam | Hi, I am looking for internal working for replicator using rsync, in openstack-swift. Like I want to know when I want to add a object to swift, how and when the object is present in primary nodes and how the rsync is used to replicate to secondary nodes (2 nodes, if the replication == 3)? | 10:35 |
| acoles | sldk: I can see you have asked in #swift3, those guys are unlikely to be awake right now so try there again in US west coast or Japan daytimes | 10:36 |
| ksam | I was not able to find any documentation about it? Any link would be helpful. It is very hard to follow the source code. | 10:37 |
| ksam | Okay, sure thank you | 10:37 |
| sldk | acoles : Thanks for the info. | 10:37 |
| acoles | ksam: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_replication.html | 10:38 |
| acoles | ksam: in normal operation all 3 primary nodes would have a replica at completion of the object PUT. replication only needs to copy between primary nodes when a replica is lost. that is detected by the nodes comparing hashes of their contents, then using rsync to push missing replicas. | 10:40 |
| ksam | I was under the assumption that (for replicas = 3), there is 1 primary node and 2 secondary nodes | 10:41 |
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| ksam | So, when the primary node is copied over http, then rsync is used to sync btw primary and secondary | 10:41 |
| acoles | ksam: no, the three nodes holding replicas are all referred to as primaries. client sends object to swift proxy via http, proxy writes a replica to each of 3 primary nodes. (in normal operation) | 10:49 |
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| ksam | So, how does the proxy writes to 3 primary nodes in normal operation? Like one by one (Serially) or all 3 simultaneously? And when does the client gets back the ack of PUT command? | 10:51 |
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| acoles | ksam: proxy writes 3 replicas in parallel. client gets back an ack if at least 2 replica writes succeed (or in general a majority of replicas). | 11:13 |
| acoles | ksam: (it's actually a little more complicated than that in terms of exactly when the client gets the ack, but that's the fundamental idea) | 11:14 |
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| ksam | Thanks a lot. A last question, Is following flow correct? For PUT command, 1. File from local pc to proxy, 2.From proxy to 3(num_replicas) primary nodes | 11:20 |
| acoles | yes | 11:20 |
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| ksam | thanks | 11:22 |
| ksam | So for replica = 3, If after getting back 2 acks, the client is shown success for PUT Command. What happens when 3 ack failed. Is this a case of node failure where rsync is need to transfer a copy to secondary node | 11:30 |
| ksam | 3rd* | 11:30 |
| ksam | needed* | 11:30 |
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| ksam | It would be very helpful, If you can also suggests me some book or blog for more information about this. Thanks | 11:31 |
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| acoles | ksam you could try http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920033288.do | 12:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Fix flaky expirer probe test https://review.openstack.org/416384 | 13:00 |
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| acoles | clayg: changed the bug tag ^^ | 13:00 |
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| tdasilva | good morning | 14:13 |
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| jrichli | tdasilva: good morning! What do you think of 14:00 UTC either tomorrow or next week? timburke: is that too early for you (re: keymaster v2 call)? | 14:18 |
| tdasilva | jrichli: works for me :) | 14:23 |
| tdasilva | might be a bit too early for timburke | 14:24 |
| jrichli | also kota_ : are you interested in joining a call we are planning to have about patch 364878? If so, would 14:00 UTC be too late for you? | 14:24 |
| patchbot_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364878/ - swift - Storing encryption root secret in Barbican | 14:25 |
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| jrichli | tdasilva: yes, i thought of that last night. and then remembered, IIRC, we had our last crypto at that time so it would also be doable for kota_ | 14:25 |
| tdasilva | jrichli: yeah, scheduling meetings across TZs is always complicated | 14:26 |
| tdasilva | jrichli: swift/tape conf. call meetings are happening at 0900 UTC, now that's early | 14:28 |
| tdasilva | :) | 14:29 |
| jrichli | yikes! | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Donagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift: Donagh McCabe has been reassigned to different project. https://review.openstack.org/416577 | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Donagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift: Donagh McCabe has been reassigned to different project. https://review.openstack.org/416577 | 15:07 |
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| acoles | https://imgflip.com/i/1h2g05 | 15:11 |
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| tdasilva | donagh: sad to see you go, thank you for all your efforts with the project | 15:15 |
| asettle | donagh: who is going to button up my jacket now?! | 15:19 |
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| donagh | asettle: Button it up yourself -- I only comitted to sewing it on | 15:34 |
| asettle | donagh: And I'll never forget your dedication and commitment to the cause :p | 15:35 |
| donagh | tdasilva: acoles: thanks | 15:35 |
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| jrichli | donagh: you will be very missed. I wish you the very best! | 16:05 |
| donagh | jrichli: thanks. | 16:08 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 16:12 |
| notmyname | donagh: I'm sorry to see you go. good luck with what's next | 16:14 |
| donagh | thanks | 16:14 |
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| jasond | in what case will swift respond with a 409 Conflict when an object deletion is requested? | 16:33 |
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| notmyname | jasond: when the existing object has a newer timestamp than the timestamp of the DELETE request | 16:35 |
| jasond | notmyname: great, thank you! | 16:36 |
| notmyname | jasond: if that's not expected, then check the system time on your servers. it's strongly recommended to keep them in sync (primarily the proxy servers) | 16:36 |
| jasond | notmyname: good to know | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/swift: Pass logger instances to AccountBroker/ContainerBroker https://review.openstack.org/295875 | 17:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Keller proposed openstack/swift: Allow Hacking H401, H403 check https://review.openstack.org/416679 | 17:30 |
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| briancline | clayg: wrt prometheus.io, yeah, was actually looking at that a few weeks ago. the need to use an exporter daemon for every individual 'thing' to expose metrics for struck me as overly complex. and the space-delimited format was kind of a downer too. but the central component of it seemed interesting | 17:38 |
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| briancline | would much rather see something like that have a bit more first-class support of push-based metrics. their argument for polling over pushing mostly makes sense, but polling is increasingly annoying at scale | 17:41 |
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| dcourtoi | hi | 18:44 |
| dcourtoi | https://opensource.googleblog.com/2017/01/grumpy-go-running-python.html | 18:44 |
| notmyname | interesting | 18:46 |
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| dcourtoi | don't know why, I immediately thought about swift :) | 18:47 |
| notmyname | dcourtoi: because it's called "grumpy"? ;-) | 18:51 |
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| dcourtoi | or maybe because I'm working with swift all day long ^^ | 18:55 |
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| dcourtoi | or maybe because of that "This one comes from the recent rejection of a resolution proposing to add golang to the list of approved languages, to support merging the hummingbird feature branch into Swift's master branch. A more accurate way to present that decision would be to say that a (short) majority of the TC members was not supporting the addition of golang at that time and under the | 19:10 |
| patchbot_ | Error: No closing quotation | 19:10 |
| dcourtoi | proposed conditions. In summary it was more of a "not now, not this way" than a "never"." | 19:10 |
| timburke | jrichli, tdasilva, et al.: yeah, 14:00 is going to be a bit too early for me. but i totally trust you guys to come up with a sensible plan without me :-) | 19:14 |
| timburke | that trouble sldk (or was it sdlk? seems to vary by channel) was having seems strange. makes me wonder what SHA that was | 19:16 |
| zaitcev | Makes me wonder what SLDK/SDLK is. | 19:16 |
| zaitcev | I know what SDLC is though... | 19:17 |
| timburke | zaitcev: who, rather than what. was looking for swift3 help ~10 hours back | 19:18 |
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| zaitcev | timburke: okay, I'm backing away slowly | 19:20 |
| timburke | zaitcev: well, whoever it was doesn't seem to be here now, so i think you're safe ;-) | 19:21 |
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| ghada | hello | 19:32 |
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| tdasilva | i wish i read french: https://www.ovh.com/fr/cloud/storage/cloud-archive.xml | 19:54 |
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| timburke | seems like it must be tape-backed, given the low cost & high latency | 20:07 |
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| tdasilva | it does seem to refer to EC thou | 20:18 |
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| timburke | it definitely says something about splitting the objects into fragments, but EC alone doesn't take 12 hours | 20:20 |
| tdasilva | right | 20:20 |
| notmyname | if only rledisez were here | 20:20 |
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| tdasilva | timburke: i wonder if they could be shutting down stuff to save on power?? | 20:24 |
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| dcourtoi | translation is coming soon ;) | 20:30 |
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| dcourtoi | yes, EC is involved, but I don't know which details I could disclose, you'll have to wait for rledisez :) | 20:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Fix flaky expirer probe test https://review.openstack.org/416384 | 20:55 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting in 2 minutes in #openstack-meeting | 20:58 |
| kota_ | good morning | 20:58 |
| notmyname | hello kota | 20:58 |
| kota_ | happy new year notmyname | 20:58 |
| notmyname | kota_: thanks. you too :-) | 20:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Allow Hacking H401, H403 check https://review.openstack.org/416679 | 21:37 |
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| bkeller` | ^thanks clayg and zaitcev | 21:49 |
| zaitcev | what | 21:49 |
| zaitcev | oh | 21:49 |
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| joeljwright | so, timburke, expiring segments, or pre/postamble first? | 21:50 |
| timburke | joeljwright: up to you :-) | 21:51 |
| notmyname | acoles: should we set https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1651530 to high or critical? | 21:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1651530 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "suffix hash invalidation may be lost" [Undecided,New] | 21:51 |
| joeljwright | ok, well I have the segment expiry one open | 21:51 |
| joeljwright | I haven't looked at it since my comments, but there seemed to be a few odd things going on | 21:52 |
| clayg | yeah that hashing thing is a big deal - i started to look at it | 21:52 |
| timburke | on that one, i'm trying to figure out whether we have to HEAD before every POST. which would rather suck :-/ | 21:53 |
| notmyname | clayg: acoles says we need to go into a quiet room and think real hard about it | 21:53 |
| clayg | notmyname: acoles is really smart | 21:53 |
| notmyname | I set the bug to critical. it needs to be closed asap | 21:53 |
| clayg | it is rather hard - the code was not super obvious to begin with | 21:53 |
| clayg | i kept thinking - no that can't be right - you must be able to just ... oh, no that doesn't work ... revert ... ok next line ... ; no that can't be right - you must just be able to ... | 21:55 |
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| acoles | notmyname: critical seems suitable, gates a release on getting this fix in | 22:05 |
| acoles | good night | 22:06 |
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| dims | notmyname : need your input here please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416064/ (also see my update to the -dev list just now for some more context) | 22:07 |
| patchbot_ | patch 416064 - openstack-dev/devstack - Run Swift services under py35 | 22:07 |
| dims | notmyname : mtreinish and i are talking about it in the #openstack-qa channel | 22:08 |
| dims | notmyname : please take a look and let us know | 22:09 |
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| timburke | quick question: would anyone (torgomatic, maybe?) be opposed to having SLO allow zero-byte segments to be specified by the client, but not actually record them in the on-disk manifest? | 22:36 |
| timburke | following https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/7f636a5 we may have (valid) SLOs on disk that can't be copied (or POSTed to, with post-as-copy) because they *end* with a zero-byte segment | 22:36 |
| timburke | the logical fix is to allow zero-byte segments, but it seems silly to bother recording them | 22:37 |
| joeljwright | I have no issue with zer-byte segments at all | 22:37 |
| notmyname | timburke: so a client can say "I want these bytes, then a million of range 0-0 from foo/bar, then swift only records the first stuff and not the rest because there's no actual effective difference | 22:37 |
| patchbot_ | Error: No closing quotation | 22:37 |
| joeljwright | as long as they're optimised out on read | 22:37 |
| timburke | notmyname: range:0-0 still has one byte :-) | 22:38 |
| notmyname | whatever | 22:38 |
| joeljwright | you got there before me | 22:38 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 22:38 |
| joeljwright | I can see valid uses for zero-byte segments in SLOs if we're using pre/post data as well... | 22:39 |
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| torgomatic | timburke: don't you need to record the zero-byte segments so the etag calculation doesn't change? | 23:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Fix flaky expirer probe test https://review.openstack.org/416384 | 23:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/swift: Use pbr console_script entrypoints for bin/ scripts https://review.openstack.org/416776 | 23:46 |
| mtreinish | dims: ^^^ | 23:46 |
| mtreinish | it was a bit more involved than I orginally though | 23:46 |
| mtreinish | t | 23:46 |
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