Monday, 2016-02-22

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openstackgerritoshritf proposed openstack/swift: Container-Sync to perform HEAD before PUT object on remote  https://review.openstack.org/27096100:10
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ho_good morning!00:15
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mattoliverauho_: morning00:35
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ho_mattoliverau: morning!00:48
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takashigood morning00:57
mattoliverautakashi: o/00:58
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takashimattoliverau: o/00:58
ho_takashi: morning!01:01
takashiho_: morning!01:06
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rminminHello, 阿拉蕾01:58
rminminall01:58
rminminI get a problem that the patch 263227 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263227/5) get jekins -1 with gate-swift-pep8 Failure. However, I cannot find the console file output of gate-swift-pep8.02:06
patchbotrminmin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263227/ - swift - Account/Container quotas should allow object re-up...02:06
patchbotrminmin: patch 263227 - swift - Account/Container quotas should allow object re-up...02:06
rminmin I run "tox -epep8" on my machine without any error.02:06
rminminhttp://logs.openstack.org/27/263227/5/check/gate-swift-pep8/99c7f39/  File Not Found02:07
mattoliveraurminmin: get gerrit to recheck, and if it fails again you'll have access to the logs. Leave a message in gerrit with only the word recheck02:10
rminminThanks matt. It works :)02:14
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jrichlimattoliverau: thanks for the review!  I had added the stale reads flag because in the beginning, I thought the existing flag was on, but it was not getting to the associated function.02:35
jrichlinow that I have gotten farther on it, I might try taking the new flag out and see what happens now.02:36
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openstackgerritJanie Richling proposed openstack/swift: WIP: Set backend content length for fallocate - EC Policy  https://review.openstack.org/28257802:38
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mattoliveraujrichli: sounds good to me :)02:54
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kota_good afternoon04:11
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janonymouskota_: o/04:31
kota_janonymous: \o/04:31
mattoliveraukota_: janonymous o/04:51
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janonymousmattoliverau: hello :)05:01
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mattoliverauk, I think I'm calling it a day for now. brain has stopped working, so no chance of debugging the latest sharding code right now. Have a great night swift land.06:13
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jrichligoodnight!06:15
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takashiho_: around?06:21
openstackgerritJanie Richling proposed openstack/swift: swift-[account|container]-info when disk is full  https://review.openstack.org/26872306:27
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ho_takashi: hi, i'm back now (i made some presentation about open source development for students today)06:50
takashiho_: Cool! How was the presentation?06:50
ho_takashi: i could get good resonse from them :-)06:51
takashiho_: great!06:52
ho_takashi: you should also do it for students in kanazawa :-)06:52
takashiho_: I hope I can do that :-)06:52
ho_takashi: :-)06:53
takashiho_: then, I have a small question about patch 271142 and patch 271160 .06:53
patchbottakashi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271142/ - swift - Add unit tests for checking responses in AccountCo... (MERGED)06:53
patchbottakashi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271160/ - swift - Add unit tests for checking responses in Container...06:53
ho_takashi: oh, second one is not merged yet...06:53
takashiho_: yes, something is wrong with gate job.06:54
takashiho: My question is very simple. Is there any reason why you assume 200 for PUT testing?06:55
ho_takashi: there is only reason. I just wanted to use 2XX code for it.06:56
ho_takashi: do you want to use 201 for it?06:58
takashiho_: I see, but on the other hand you use 204 for POST/DELETE case.06:58
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takashiho_: I think 201 is better because it can show the situation clearer.06:59
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ho_takashi: i have no objection for your thought. it's better to adapt it to real world  :-)07:02
takashiho_: OK. I'm going to commit that replacement(200->201) about account testing.07:03
ho_takashi: thanks for it :-)07:03
takashiho_: How should I do for container testing? You already got two +2s, so I think it's better to leave it as it is now, and commit another patch for that replacement.07:04
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ho_takashi: both patches already got two +2 so it's better to submit new (another) patchset.07:06
takashiho_: OK, thanks.07:06
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openstackgerritTakashi Kajinami proposed openstack/swift: Add unit tests for checking responses in ContainerController  https://review.openstack.org/27116007:13
openstackgerritTakashi Kajinami proposed openstack/swift: Use 201 insted of 200 in PUT test case  https://review.openstack.org/28298507:13
takashiho_: I'm sorry. I accidentaly rebased your patch... :-(07:15
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ho_takashi: np!07:17
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Follow up for Janie Richling  https://review.openstack.org/28299107:46
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kota_jrichli:^^08:04
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openstackgerritoshritf proposed openstack/swift: Container-Sync to perform HEAD before PUT object on remote  https://review.openstack.org/27096110:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: functest for x-timestamp validation  https://review.openstack.org/26608510:22
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openstackgerritrenminmin proposed openstack/swift: Account/Container quotas should allow object re-upload  https://review.openstack.org/26322711:00
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: dry out container unittests  https://review.openstack.org/28217312:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Add unit tests for checking responses in ContainerController  https://review.openstack.org/27116012:35
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tdasilvagood morning14:41
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tdasilvaacoles: around?15:09
acolestdasilva: hi15:10
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tdasilvaacoles: hello...I've been reviewing copy middleware and was planning on sending a patch with some small changes, was wondering if you were also working on it?15:11
tdasilvaacoles: just didn't want to duplicate effort15:11
acolestdasilva: you go ahead, i have not dome any more on it since Friday15:12
acolesthanks!15:12
tdasilvaacoles: no no, huge thank you!15:12
acolestdasilva: no no, ppai get the kudos!15:12
acoles:)15:12
tdasilvaacoles: so I was thinking about the possibility of adding the option to allow disabling the middleware, thoughts?15:13
tdasilvaI guess ops could just remove it from the pipeline, so I don't know that it buys anything15:13
acolestdasilva: why disable it?15:13
acolestdasilva: ops cannot remove it if it is auto-inserted15:14
tdasilvaacoles: well..it was this sentence that caught my attention: " There is no configurable option provided to turn off server side copy"15:14
acolestdasilva: but there's no way to turn off COPY on master15:14
tdasilvathen i wondered, what if someone wants off?? but15:14
tdasilvatrue15:14
tdasilvabut that's what is nice about middleware15:14
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tdasilvaor one of the things that are nice15:15
tdasilvait was just a thought, i guess we could do it if somebody ever actually asks for it15:15
acolesI guess that nothing else internally now relies on the COPY verb, unlike before15:16
acolestdasilva: but we need to make it be there by default to avoid breaking existing clusters, which is what the auto-insertion gets us, so i guess it would have to always be in the pipeline but have a "enabled" option which by default is true15:18
acolestdasilva: sounds like that could be a follow-on debate/patch?15:18
tdasilvaacoles: yeah..that's what i am thinking15:18
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tdasilvait could easily be done if somebody asks for it15:19
tdasilvakeep things simple15:19
acolestdasilva: yup, keep it simple for now15:19
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Fix wrong args for get_container with full listing  https://review.openstack.org/28312615:23
acolesjoeljwright: timburke ^^ 2-line fix (plus test) for a stupid bug15:23
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notmynamegood morning15:26
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tdasilvanotmyname: o/16:15
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notmynamenote this ML message thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/087161.html16:23
notmynamestill 4 annual events, but no more ad-hoc mid-cycles. instead, colocated midcycles. and note the significant timing changes proposed16:27
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jrichlinotmyname: interesting.  I am not sure if I am reading this right.  it sounds at first like we want to fix the fact that design summit has not been as productive,16:54
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jrichlibut then it seems to say midcycle is replaced by design summit, and the design summit is removed from the regular summit - and replaced with nothing.  so less dev during the year?16:55
jrichliwhat am I missing?  it sounds like our dev teams will only be focusing on dev together twice a year in this scenario.16:56
jrichlikota_: thank you!  I will take a look16:57
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notmynamejrichli: good point17:02
notmynamebut the original argument is that the current summits don't have good dev work done17:03
notmynamepersonally, I think we've been getting better at that, but I'll admit that for some people (myself included) there are a lot of competing interests during that week17:03
notmynamebut I think you raise a good point. we should not let a few people's busy schedules prevent many people from having face-to-face dev conversations17:05
notmynamejrichli: I think you should raise that point on the ML :-)17:06
jrichliah ... ok.17:06
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ZyricGood Morning17:19
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acolesnotmyname: interesting (ML). jrichli makes a good point. face to face is valuable, so all devs will meet twice a year, but just a subset four times. i suspect the subset could trend towards the whole.17:30
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claygacoles: Friday was crazy and today will be too - I was lazy over the weekened - but suffix hashing is very very much on the top of my radar!17:37
acolesclayg: you're a star. weekends are meant for being lazy!17:41
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acolesclayg: with EC my intent was that the hash would include all files/frags that *could* be used to construct a diskfile so should handle multiple frags. If the patch doesn't do that then I screwed up!17:43
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openstackgerritJoel Wright proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Do not reveal auth token in swiftclient log messages by default  https://review.openstack.org/28236317:46
notmynameacoles: I noticed that you (probably) started starring patches. the list has changed :-)17:50
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claygacoles: that's great, sounds right, will confirm17:51
acolesnotmyname: i was provoked :)17:54
acolesnotmyname: you have to trust me that I did *not* star everything.17:54
notmynamethat would actually just make your own stars effectively not count for anything :-)17:54
acolesexactly17:55
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acolesi mean everything of mine17:55
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openstackgerritJoel Wright proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Do not reveal auth token in swiftclient log messages by default  https://review.openstack.org/28236317:56
notmynameheh :-)17:56
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tdasilvaafter reading Thierry's email, my first thoughts were very much inline with what Amrith wrote here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/087213.html18:04
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tdasilvaseems like there's still going to be 4 events that everyone wants to go to18:05
notmynamemy reply sent. with jrichli's comments18:15
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tdasilvaacoles, clayg, torgomatic: it seems to me that with COPY middleware we no longer need the _reroute method: https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/proxy/controllers/obj.py#L819 . am i missing something?18:24
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openstackgerritJohn Dickinson proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Update api docs title to make ToC better  https://review.openstack.org/28320518:32
notmynamestill don't know why swiftclient docs aren't updated on the docs site18:33
notmynameprobably time to go ask in -docs18:33
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acolestdasilva: i think you are correct. i'm running tests with this diff to patch 15692318:37
patchbotacoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156923/ - swift - Refactor server side copy as middleware18:37
acoleshttp://paste.openstack.org/show/487793/18:37
tdasilvaacoles: yeah, i ran it like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/487794/18:40
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acolestdasilva: IIRC reroute was needed for when an ObjectController was asked to handle a different policy than it is designed for, which implies copy from policy A to policy B.18:42
tdasilvaacoles: correct, that's how i remember too. I think this line "source_req.headers.pop('X-Backend-Storage-Policy-Index', None)" in server_side_copy.py helps to make sure we get the right policy in GETorHEAD method: https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/proxy/controllers/obj.py#L18918:44
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jrichlinotmyname: well stated.  thanks!18:55
notmynamejrichli: oh, whew. glad I got it right(-ish) :-)18:56
acolesnotmyname: +1 . less face to face it a backwards step imho.18:59
acolestdasilva: agree. so your change here http://paste.openstack.org/show/487794/ or similar makes sense18:59
notmynameIMO the hard part of that line of argument is the official vs defacto requirement of the mid cycles18:59
notmynameit's true that nobody is required to go to a summit. and mid cycles aren't official, so they definitely aren't required19:00
notmynamebut really? that's not true at all19:00
notmynamefor most people19:00
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ahalei wish i could come to mid cycle :(19:18
tdasilvadoes anybody know the history of why POSTS requests do not get versioned?19:18
notmynameahale: it's like right across the street from you, right?19:22
ahalepretty much yeah19:23
ahalemy travel request was denied, cos "budgets"19:23
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notmyname:-(19:24
ahaleapparently i should have asked to go in Sept last year :(19:24
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notmynameI'm sad that rackspace isn't sending anyone to the hackathon19:31
notmynameah. asettle will be there from private cloud docs. but no cloud files representation ops or devs19:32
tdasilvano hurricanerix ???19:32
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hurricanerixtdasilva: Yeah, couldn't make it out this time.  But since I live in Austin now, I will be at OpenStack.  =)19:33
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tdasilvahurricanerix: you will be missed19:35
notmyname+!19:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Changing the base version to python2.7 for pep8 checks  https://review.openstack.org/27707119:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Use 201 insted of 200 in PUT test case  https://review.openstack.org/28298519:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Fail early if the memcache address is invalid.  https://review.openstack.org/26546519:42
notmynameI just was told why we don't have updated docs published on http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-swiftclient/19:44
notmynameclient projects are currently configured to only rebuild docs at a release19:45
notmynamewhereas server projects rebuild and publish docs at every commit19:45
zaitcevweird, but okay, it is what it is19:45
notmynameyes, I too think that's weird19:47
timburkei suppose that makes sense for clients... it seems kinda odd that servers get tip-of-master docs; that isn't generally what an operator would want, is it? nor someone writing their own client...19:47
notmynameit depends on how well the project does upgrades, migrations, and api compatibility19:47
notmynameI disagree with the reasoning I was just told: "idea is that client projects are usable only when released"19:48
notmynamebut I now know what needs to change should we decide to change that19:49
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timburkei wonder how much work it would really be to have http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-swiftclient/dev/ and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-swiftclient/2.7.0/ instead of just http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-swiftclient/19:51
notmynametimburke: that is a fantastic question19:52
timburkeor even a /dev/ and /stable/. i could certainly see value in having the old docs up for people stuck on an old version, though19:53
notmynameyeah, I like the /<Version>/ idea19:54
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873619:55
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timburkenotmyname: me too, but it'd probably be too much for projects like os-client-config - 9 kilo releases, 19 liberty releases, and 13 mitaka releases (so far)20:00
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ahalethat looks like something a random helper file might be called, thats an actual openstack project ?!20:03
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openstackgerritThiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: Refactor server side copy as middleware  https://review.openstack.org/15692320:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Make _get_addr() method a function in utils.  https://review.openstack.org/26550120:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-swiftclient: New python swiftclient doc  https://review.openstack.org/27824820:31
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lothWhat kind of quotas are avalible for swift?20:57
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notmynameloth: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/api/container_quotas.html http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/middleware.html#module-swift.common.middleware.account_quotas http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/middleware.html#module-swift.common.middleware.container_quotas21:03
lothThanks, i kept getting stuff from 2012 when it was being implemented :(21:05
lothAnd the old wiki, which everyone seems to have abandoned...21:06
notmynameloth: make swift.openstack.org your first point of reference21:06
lothalrighty21:08
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mattoliverauMorning21:12
notmynamehello mattoliverau21:12
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openstackgerritJanie Richling proposed openstack/swift: Set backend content length for fallocate - EC Policy  https://review.openstack.org/28257821:35
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925021:37
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873621:37
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openstackgerritDaisuke Morita proposed openstack/swift: WIP: Changing Policies  https://review.openstack.org/20932922:48
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