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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: pep8: Don't override '_' symbol https://review.openstack.org/213495 | 00:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: pep8: Fix usage of the l10n _('...') function https://review.openstack.org/213494 | 00:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihito Takai proposed openstack/swift: Fix the comment in [1]. https://review.openstack.org/214915 | 00:46 |
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| clayg | peluse: bah I ment to -1 the ec buckets patch so you'd see it - but it's fine - i'm still working on it anyway | 01:11 |
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| notmyname | torgomatic: I think this is what you were looking for https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/version_map ;-) | 01:25 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: and that's what I'll merge into the changelog (why I put a -2 on it) | 01:25 |
| notmyname | hmm...looks like I need to update that | 01:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Add delete markers to versioned_writes middleware https://review.openstack.org/214922 | 01:49 |
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| notmyname | timburke: wait. from that patch subject line, it implies you've added "real" versioning ^ | 01:53 |
| notmyname | (that's really cool!) | 01:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Janie Richling proposed openstack/swift: Decrypting Container Listing https://review.openstack.org/214438 | 02:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hisashi Osanai proposed openstack/swift: Python3: do not use im_self/im_func/func_closure https://review.openstack.org/203066 | 03:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: pep8: Fix hacking H232 warnings (octal) https://review.openstack.org/206149 | 06:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: pep8: replace deprecated calls to assert_() https://review.openstack.org/213491 | 06:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 07:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/174343 | 07:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kazuhiro MIYAHARA proposed openstack/swift: Fix dispersion-reports error message https://review.openstack.org/213697 | 09:27 |
| mahatic | acoles: Morning! This might be silly, I need to take jrichli's changes from patch 214438 - without taking a checkout of that change, what happens if I rebase feature/crypto onto my local branch (where I'm making my changes) | 09:29 |
| patchbot | mahatic: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214438/ | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Kazuhiro MIYAHARA proposed openstack/swift: Fix dispersion-reports error message https://review.openstack.org/213697 | 09:30 |
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| acoles | mahatic: hi! i need to better understand what you want to do :) do you want to apply change from 214438 to your working branch? | 09:46 |
| mahatic | acoles: :) yes, (I'm hung on rebasing!) Last time I submitted it, I got "Merge Conflict" in gerrit. | 09:47 |
| acoles | mahatic: and what is your working branch based on? did you start from feature/ec? | 09:49 |
| acoles | feature/crypto i mean :) | 09:49 |
| mahatic | :D I was confused for a sec. Yes, I took the tail branch (git checkout --- and get checkout FETcH_HEAD thing) | 09:50 |
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| mahatic | acoles: it is based off patch 203454 | 09:52 |
| patchbot | mahatic: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203454/ | 09:52 |
| acoles | mahatic: ok, so you started from 203454 and now you want to include the changes from 214438? | 09:53 |
| mahatic | acoles: yeah | 09:54 |
| acoles | mahatic: i am just looking at the patch chains | 09:57 |
| mahatic | sure, thanks | 09:58 |
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| acoles | so, 203454 is based on 203310 and 214438 is also based on 203310. but 203454 is abandoned, so do you really want to be based on 203454? | 10:02 |
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| acoles | is your review that we are discussing patch 211451? | 10:03 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211451/ | 10:03 |
| mahatic_ | yeah, that's the one | 10:04 |
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| mahatic_ | I'm looking at those patches you mentioned, just a moment please | 10:04 |
| acoles | so do you want the changes from 203454 (abandoned)? | 10:05 |
| acoles | k, i'm just going to grab coffee, bbiab | 10:05 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: nope, I just want changes from 214438 | 10:09 |
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| mahatic_ | I took changes from 203454 when it was not abandones | 10:09 |
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| acoles | mahatic_: ok let me figure out the steps to take - seems like we need to get your changes based onto 214438 | 10:10 |
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| mahatic_ | acoles: yeah, thanks. Or I could make my changes (and redo some existing) once I have 214438 on current branch | 10:12 |
| acoles | mahatic_: try this http://paste.openstack.org/show/422617/ | 10:21 |
| acoles | there are some merge conflicts you will have to resolve | 10:22 |
| mahatic_ | sure, will try that | 10:22 |
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| mahatic | acoles: so it worked :) Moving forward, how do I pick changes - I upload my changes and then jrichli does her stuff and uploads, then how do i pick those again? | 10:48 |
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| mahatic | I mean how do I get jrchili's changes into my local? | 10:50 |
| acoles | mahatic: great :) | 10:54 |
| acoles | mahatic: each time the review you are based on changes (in this case 214438 now) then you need to rebase your patch | 10:55 |
| acoles | mahatic: so you would do 'git review -d 214438' to get latest version of that | 10:55 |
| mahatic | acoles: okay. "git review -d 214438" and then "git checkout my_branch" ? | 10:56 |
| acoles | then checkout your branch and 'git rebase -i review/janie_richling/jlr_clisting' | 10:56 |
| acoles | yup | 10:56 |
| acoles | then fix any merge conflicts, git add, git rebase --continue just like you have just done | 10:57 |
| acoles | mahatic: you're probably going to have to do this quite often so it will become familiar :) | 10:58 |
| mahatic | acoles: okay :) thanks so much! you saved my day! Glad to have you my timezone :D | 10:58 |
| mahatic | acoles: yeah :) | 10:58 |
| acoles | mahatic: no probs | 10:59 |
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| mahatic | acoles: since it created a new branch "review/mahati/crypto_mahati", does it hurt to rename it to something smaller? | 11:24 |
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| acoles | mahatic: no you can rename it to whatever you want. gerrit tracks patches based on the change id in the commit message. your branch name may appear as the topic in gerrit but i'm not aware that is has any significance. | 11:26 |
| mahatic | acoles: alright. thanks! | 11:27 |
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| janonymous_ | Hi.. | 13:26 |
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| janonymous_ | Could someone suggest, is there need to handle this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1483997 | 13:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1483997 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Request using Chunked encoding as a header in object GET raises httlib Error" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to janonymous (janonymous) | 13:27 |
| janonymous_ | This bug raises an error visible in logs when a http request of GET is made using header Transfer-encoding chunked | 13:28 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 13:48 |
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| tdasilva | mattoliverau: good morning! how's going in TX?? | 14:00 |
| hrou | Morning mattoliverau / tdasilva ! | 14:00 |
| tdasilva | hrou: hi! good morning | 14:00 |
| mattoliverau | hrou, tdasilva: o/ | 14:01 |
| mattoliverau | TX is good.. Last day tho. I fly home this evening | 14:01 |
| hrou | mattoliverau, seems like it cooled down a bit 90 degrees : ) | 14:02 |
| tdasilva | mattoliverau: nice, have a good trip home! | 14:03 |
| mattoliverau | Thanks, going to the rackspace office for the day first tho :) | 14:04 |
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| kairo | morning guys. | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Make pipeline_property less brittle https://review.openstack.org/104926 | 14:31 |
| pgbridge | good morning | 14:41 |
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| timburke | notmyname: well, it's enough that i think we can get rid of https://github.com/swiftstack/swift_undelete -- i'm still not happy about the extra data movement, though, so there's still a case for using symlinks | 15:40 |
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| acoles | peluse_: ping | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Add OpenStack release names to changelog https://review.openstack.org/214728 | 16:48 |
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| clayg | morning | 17:59 |
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| acoles | morning clayg | 18:03 |
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| kairo | morning(3pm) :) | 18:04 |
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| acoles | kairo: where is it 3pm right now? | 18:08 |
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| acoles | hey clayg thanks for taking a look over patch 104926, i just fixed the merge conflict before mattoliverau wielded his abandonment axe over it, has been ages since i looked at it but i will try to follow up your comments | 18:18 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104926/ | 18:18 |
| kairo | acoles: Brazil :) | 18:18 |
| mattoliverau | I like the idea of an abandonment axe, I should get one | 18:18 |
| acoles | clayg: right now i'm hacking diskfile to allow opening of non-durable data files | 18:19 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: i don't think they will let you take it on the plane :) | 18:19 |
| acoles | kairo: oh right | 18:19 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: safe travelling btw | 18:19 |
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| mattoliverau | acoles: thanks | 18:22 |
| mattoliverau | Probably not, maybe I need a plastic one | 18:22 |
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| clayg | acoles: yeah that's right! eat it diskfile! | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Enable object server to return non-durable data https://review.openstack.org/215276 | 18:30 |
| acoles | voila! | 18:30 |
| acoles | (still WIP) | 18:30 |
| clayg | acoles: oh no sorry - that pipleline property thing is totally my fault :'( | 18:30 |
| clayg | acoles: I'd love to clean it up for you - but... man - *so* much other stuff I really really want to work on | 18:31 |
| acoles | clayg: +1 "bigger fish" :) | 18:32 |
| acoles | clayg: i decided to make a post it note backlog for myself today but ran out of post it notes :/ | 18:33 |
| clayg | acoles: oh goodness :'( | 18:33 |
| clayg | i love TODO "this was going great until it fell apart and now wtf" | 18:33 |
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| clayg | acoles: so you're thinking that a datafile w/o durable can't clear an older .meta file (I think that's right, and that's how I'm reading the test) | 18:35 |
| acoles | clayg: a non-durable data file at t2 should not cause a meta file at t1 to be deleted. but when we do a non-durable response we should not return the meta file at t1 with the non-durable at t2. | 18:37 |
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| clayg | acoles: agreed | 18:37 |
| clayg | acoles: nice work | 18:37 |
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| acoles | clayg: i want to sleep on the implementation but thats how i think it should behave. glad we agree :) | 18:38 |
| wbhuber | acoles: isn't this patch related to the "reckless GETs" discussion we had at hackathon? | 18:39 |
| acoles | clayg btw i based this on peluse patch 213147 cos i love how he made get_ondisk_files return a dict. | 18:39 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213147/ | 18:39 |
| acoles | wbhuber: exactly | 18:39 |
| acoles | wbhuber: "optimistic GETs" ;) | 18:40 |
| wbhuber | acoles: politically correct. :) | 18:40 |
| wbhuber | acoles: cannot we merge get_ondisk_files with gather_on_disk_files? both sound redundant | 18:42 |
| wbhuber | but i understand the intention behind each one | 18:42 |
| acoles | wbhuber: its getting that way, so far i kept them both in case someone else using the diskfile API is calling get_ondisk_files, but actually peluse has changed the return type so maybe we can just combine them. i'll look at it some more. | 18:45 |
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| clayg | acoles: yeah peluse_ is awesome | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Enable object server to return non-durable data https://review.openstack.org/215276 | 18:53 |
| acoles | clayg: ^^ you made me think how the test could be better. thanks. | 18:54 |
| clayg | acoles: now you're just throwing credit around to make other people more interested in your work (that's a *great* strategy btw) | 18:54 |
| acoles | lol | 18:54 |
| acoles | always spread the blame | 18:55 |
| clayg | right! | 18:55 |
| acoles | goodnight/good evening/enjoy lunch. | 18:55 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: what are the changes we don't have any tests that validate an invalid Range header results in a 400 instead of say a 500 returned when catch_errors gobbles up a ValueError that gets thrown in proxy.controllers.base.GetOrHeadHandler._get_response_parts_iter? | 19:50 |
| clayg | *chances | 19:50 |
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| torgomatic | clayg: a minute ago I would have said small, but given that you're asking the question, I'm going to go with "nearly 100%" | 19:50 |
| clayg | torgomatic (or anyone): if you happen to have a saio up can you curl with a -H 'Range: fuck' real quick and tell me i'm crazy? | 19:51 |
| torgomatic | one sec | 19:52 |
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| torgomatic | clayg: when I do that the Range header seems like it's completely ignored | 19:53 |
| clayg | unittests have tacos=3-5 | 19:53 |
| clayg | sweet! I just have something broken - thank good ness | 19:53 |
| torgomatic | bytes=101-tacos also results in ignored header | 19:54 |
| clayg | torgomatic: well that sounds like the behavior we want! | 19:54 |
| torgomatic | hooray! | 19:54 |
| clayg | torgomatic: doh! it was because my test object is zero-byte | 19:55 |
| clayg | so... what the chances ... invalid Range ... on zero byte object .. | 19:56 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: could still be my broken branch i 'spose | 19:56 |
| torgomatic | clayg: nope, happens over here too | 19:56 |
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| torgomatic | Range: bytes=burr-itos on a zero-byte object 500s | 19:57 |
| torgomatic | boo | 19:57 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: k, thanks - i'm working on the unit test | 19:57 |
| clayg | <hugs> | 19:57 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: yeah even better - thanks! I probalby wouldn't have only gotten as far as a failing unitest with a bug report anyway! | 19:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Fix 500 for bogus Range request to 0-byte object. https://review.openstack.org/215317 | 20:27 |
| torgomatic | clayg: ^^ | 20:27 |
| clayg | torgomatic: can you come drop some ec range knowledge on me? | 20:29 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: I hate those live wire tests tho - they're soooooo flipping slow! | 20:40 |
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| albertom | someone using erasure codes? | 20:43 |
| albertom | swift-ring-builder account.builder create 10 3 1 <- which value should I use? since 3 is for 3 replicas | 20:44 |
| wbhuber | albertom: yes, there are a bunch of us using Swift Erasure Coding. | 20:44 |
| wbhuber | albertom: Depends on what your EC scheme is | 20:46 |
| albertom | ok, I wanto to have 14 storage nodes | 20:46 |
| wbhuber | albertom: if you have a 3+2 scheme, you can use this: swift-ring-builder ~/builderfile create 18 5 1 | 20:46 |
| albertom | so for the defaults 10 + 4 would be create 11 14 1 ? | 20:48 |
| clayg | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_erasure_code.html#using-an-erasure-code-policy would probably be the place to indicate that your rings primary count should be data + parity | 20:48 |
| albertom | also why 18 ? | 20:48 |
| wbhuber | well, that's just the # of partitions | 20:49 |
| clayg | it's weird because the ec storage polices validate ring has data + parity primary partition placements (replicas) - but I don't see where the docs say it | 20:49 |
| wbhuber | clayg: i am actually looking for it. | 20:49 |
| wbhuber | a doc update is much dired. | 20:49 |
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| clayg | wbhuber: yeah it looks like a paragraph right after (calculations depending on ec_type) would be a great place to go into the ring | 20:50 |
| albertom | oh i got lost in the doc | 20:51 |
| albertom | but i recall the number of partitions would be the | 20:51 |
| albertom | number of nodes * 100 and then find an exponent of 2 that gets closer to it | 20:52 |
| albertom | so for 14 nodes, | 20:52 |
| albertom | 2^11 | 20:52 |
| clayg | timburke: so with the delete-marker the object name will still be in the container listing too | 20:53 |
| timburke | clayg: yes. with a content-type of application/x-delete-marker | 20:53 |
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| wbhuber | albertom: i'm not certain about # of nodes * 100 and find the power of 2 to be close to it | 20:57 |
| wbhuber | albertom: where did you find that? | 20:57 |
| albertom | he, trying to find the page again | 20:57 |
| wbhuber | i'm looking in swift-ring-builder code (ringbuilder.py) | 20:58 |
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| clayg | there's this one -> but it's a little optomistic -> https://rackerlabs.github.io/swift-ppc/ | 20:59 |
| albertom | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/deployment_guide.html#ring-preparing | 20:59 |
| albertom | the part_power part | 20:59 |
| clayg | ... that or people don't tend to think very realistically about the max drives - or look very closely at "max part per drive" | 21:00 |
| clayg | albertom: how many devices do you have currently? | 21:00 |
| wbhuber | clayg: we need to make that page EC friendly! | 21:00 |
| wbhuber | i.e. Replicas/EC (data + parity) | 21:00 |
| albertom | clayg: i am only testing erasure codes with ec_type = isa_l_rs_vand │ | 21:00 |
| clayg | wbhuber: not my page | 21:00 |
| albertom | I have 14 drives | 21:00 |
| wbhuber | 14 per each node? | 21:01 |
| albertom | one node with 14 drives :P | 21:01 |
| albertom | i am just testing the software so I dont care for performance right now | 21:01 |
| clayg | no worries, with 14 devices you can go as high as 16 and still fill up the devices before you loose your lunch on inodes | 21:02 |
| clayg | but if you're just testing and not planning on growing the deployment up to more than a few thousand drives you may as well just do like 10 to save some cpu's when you build your rings | 21:02 |
| wbhuber | clayg: before i take off for my kid's school open house, can you quickly open a doc bug for me to include a PP on how to build a ring specifically for EC? | 21:04 |
| clayg | PP? | 21:04 |
| wbhuber | paragraph | 21:04 |
| clayg | sure! | 21:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Janie Richling proposed openstack/swift: Decrypting Container Listing https://review.openstack.org/214438 | 21:04 |
| wbhuber | clayg: ty | 21:04 |
| albertom | So what happens when you create the ring with a low part_power and then grow beyond the expected ? | 21:05 |
| clayg | albertom: most people can guess w/i two orders of magnitude | 21:07 |
| clayg | albertom: but if you start with 3 drives and end up with >300 you'll get lumpy data distribution and whine at cschwede to finish part power adjustment | 21:07 |
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| clayg | most of the time people start with a few nodes all of which have more than a few devices, and can't realistically grow beyond many thounds of devices in many hundreds of servers without hitting some sort of limit - so it ends up being a mostly non/low-priority issue | 21:10 |
| albertom | so for ec codes i dont need rsync right ? | 21:13 |
| clayg | albertom: container & account still use rsync for rebalance | 21:14 |
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| lcurtis | Good Afternoon all...question...if I lose a disk containing async_pendings, am I pretty much hosed? | 21:24 |
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| clayg | lcurtis: not normally | 21:25 |
| clayg | lcurtis: most of the time there's other disks that have the same async_pending on them - that or they already got it into the containers and you're fine | 21:25 |
| lcurtis | ah...make sense | 21:26 |
| lcurtis | sorry--one more hopefully quick question...would sqlite wirtes be considered syncrhonous? | 21:27 |
| lcurtis | guessing writes to the pending files not syncrhonous, but actual merge would be? | 21:27 |
| clayg | hrmm... syncrhonous in what sense? "does an object PUT commit it's existance to the container before returning success"? | 21:28 |
| lcurtis | syncrhonous write to disk | 21:28 |
| lcurtis | so put written to pending file, then merged to sqlite db | 21:29 |
| clayg | is there such a thing as an asynchronous write to disk? | 21:29 |
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| lcurtis | i believe so, wehre a sync is not explicitly specified, though i could certainly be mistaken | 21:30 |
| clayg | like... page cache without fsync? or like some sort of crazy libaio... i'm confused I think :D | 21:30 |
| clayg | lcurtis: well that's true - because sqlite (and most databases) like get better throughput doing bulk inserts instead of row by row - the object updates get bunched up in the .pending file (that's an append write) and only slammed into sqlite on read | 21:31 |
| clayg | ... well not "only" - if you're doing a bunch of writes eventually the update will pause and merge - otherwise the container existence check every 30 seconds will get at least one of the replicas | 21:32 |
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| lcurtis | just curious..trying to figure out ways high container writes | 21:32 |
| clayg | ah | 21:33 |
| clayg | lcurtis: notmyname's thing is good! | 21:33 |
| clayg | Change-Id: I737bd0af3f124a4ce3e0862a155e97c1f0ac3e52 | 21:33 |
| lcurtis | clayg: awesome! thank you. He had mentioned that before | 21:34 |
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| lcurtis | bookmarked it this time | 21:36 |
| torgomatic | didn't we merge that thing yet? | 21:37 |
| clayg | torgomatic: no no no - I think it's merged! | 21:38 |
| torgomatic | clayg: oh good | 21:38 |
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| tdasilva | timburke: interesting patch on versioned writes! | 21:43 |
| timburke | tdasilva: i thought you might be :) | 21:44 |
| tdasilva | timburke: is the marker being added to the "versioned container" or the container holding the past versions? | 21:45 |
| tdasilva | timburke: the marker being a 0 byte file, right? | 21:45 |
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| hrou | Me too : - ) In the sense that it'll make life easier for us crypto folks | 21:46 |
| tdasilva | hrou: how so? | 21:46 |
| timburke | tdasilva: versioned container. unless you try to push-marker-delete a delete marker, in which case both. and yes, 0-byte file | 21:46 |
| hrou | tdasilva, I guess more accurately phrased the copy middleware will take care of it from our perspective. | 21:47 |
| hrou | tdasilva, such that any copy (versioning is just an example) will flow through the crypto middleware as a get and put | 21:48 |
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| tdasilva | timburke: was wondering if you would make sense to PUT it in the "X-Version-Location" container??? so that it marks that it was deleted, but doesn't "polute" the source container | 21:49 |
| tdasilva | hrou: got it! | 21:49 |
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| tdasilva | timburke: just an idea | 21:50 |
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| timburke | tdasilva: interesting... clayg did seem worried about that... | 21:53 |
| timburke | tdasilva: is it worth breaking pop-to-restore? | 21:54 |
| tdasilva | not sure it needs to breat | 21:54 |
| tdasilva | break | 21:54 |
| tdasilva | timburke: if i understand what you are trying to say, you are worried about poping a marker? | 21:55 |
| tdasilva | timburke: in that case, i'd just pop again... | 21:55 |
| timburke | tdasilva: yes. what i like about the way i've written it is that a delete is just another version. it can use all the same machinery and has all the same characteristics | 21:56 |
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| timburke | if we write the delete marker to the versions container, then pop-version deletes to the versioned container would need to look in two places...though i suppose we'd do that anyway...lemme play with it | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: WIP: fixups for etag_buckets https://review.openstack.org/215360 | 22:09 |
| clayg | peluse_: ^ please go ahead and squash any of that you think is helpful | 22:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Add the ability to specify ranges for SLO segments https://review.openstack.org/211726 | 23:49 |
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