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| Shihta | Does anybody know SWIFT will support resumable upload in the future? | 08:28 |
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| eikke | how many LoC does it take to make it into the AUTHORS file? :-P | 11:10 |
| ahale_ | just one I think, normally gets updated when a new release is made | 11:13 |
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| NM | Good morning guys | 12:26 |
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| ctennis | eikke: I got in the file a few years ago by a trivial patch or two that fixed some typos :) | 13:48 |
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| kbee | cschwede: can you pls let me know if you have any more comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140972/ | 14:29 |
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| cschwede | kbee: looks good to me, thanks! | 15:00 |
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| kaliya | Hello, does Swift support (Glance) images bigger than 5Gb? | 15:39 |
| ferahgo | kaliya: Yes with the static large object or dynamic large object middleware | 15:40 |
| kaliya | thanks ferahgo, can I find this information somewhere in the Swift documentation? | 15:41 |
| ferahgo | kaliya: yes | 15:43 |
| kaliya | found it! ferahgo, can I enable those middlewares in the swift.conf ? | 15:43 |
| ferahgo | kaliya: If slo is enabled in the proxy-server pipeline the python-swift-client can handle the segmentation | 15:43 |
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| tdasilva | kaliya: dlo is enabled by default | 15:44 |
| ferahgo | doh | 15:44 |
| kaliya | so I am facing problems in storing Glance images > 5G in Swift | 15:44 |
| ferahgo | kaliya: pay attention to the python-swiftclient part then | 15:44 |
| kaliya | yes, I upgraded to 2.3.1 but still I cannot save images | 15:45 |
| ferahgo | kaliya: Are you specifying a segment size with the -S flag? | 15:47 |
| ferahgo | kaliya: 'swift upload test_container -S 1073741824 large_file' should get you what you need | 15:48 |
| kaliya | ferahgo: nope, because the command used is `glance`. What's the option related to -S in swift.conf? | 15:48 |
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| kaliya | thanks ferahgo, I will try. Very kind from you :) | 15:49 |
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| kani | notmyname: I was discussing about the multiple images upload to glance with swift backend. it fails for timeout error in swift.SAIO running on3vms . is the timeout because of the swift has no isolated network for replication?? | 16:54 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 17:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Adds console logging to swift-drive-audit https://review.openstack.org/140972 | 17:10 |
| notmyname | eikke: the technical answer to how the AUTHORS file is made is basically the output of `git shortlog -nes` | 17:11 |
| notmyname | eikke: ...and I just found a bug that was skipping over your name. sorry about that | 17:11 |
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| mahatic | good morning | 17:15 |
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| notmyname | eikke: in case you're curious, I use the `new_authors.sh` script to report on needed updates to AUTHORS and .mailmap https://github.com/notmyname/git-stats | 17:23 |
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| kani | notmyname: I was discussing about multiple image upload to glance and the swift fails for timeout error. SAIO running on 3 swift vms. Is this timeout error because there is no isolated network for replication? | 17:36 |
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| notmyname | kani: hard to say if that's the root cause or not. it might be. but I suspect it's much more likely to be something about IO contention instead of network infrastructure | 17:38 |
| notmyname | if anyone is interested in what's going on with openstack governance, you should read http://ttx.re/the-way-forward.html | 17:42 |
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| kani | notmyname: can u tell is there any way to find if that is IO contention? either by logs or any available tools | 17:50 |
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| notmyname | kani: look at the server stats. iowait, cpu usage, do some reasoning about what you're asking the system to do (X concurrent reads of Y size therefore ..., etc). use other tools on the system like iotop. | 17:55 |
| kani | notmyname: I will try and let yiou know the reason . thank you. I will be on Christmas holidays from tomorrow.. meet u after that :) | 17:58 |
| NM | notmyname: do you have any personnal thoughts about the openstack governance? | 17:59 |
| NM | (Sure you have personal thoughts. I wonder if you have any you would like to share :D ) | 17:59 |
| notmyname | NM: heh | 17:59 |
| notmyname | NM: I don't know the full consequences, but I think a more flexible tag-based system, rather that a binary "integrated" or "not integrated" (and the associated implication of "openstack is one atomic set of things"), is better. | 18:01 |
| NM | notmyname: It seens legit. Binary usually is good for computers but not for human community. | 18:02 |
| NM | Guys, has anyone used Swiftsync? ( https://github.com/stackforge/swiftsync) | 18:07 |
| notmyname | NM: ya, and I think it's good for people building products. tags might be a more flexible way to actually reflect the varied ecosystem that exists | 18:08 |
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| NM | notmyname: Yes. It's nice to see that even being 'integrated', swift community cares about that :) | 18:10 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: you here? | 18:38 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: was going to chat more about dlo manifest versioning. i left some comments on your review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140206/ . if you have changed you mind on that one, -1 it and we could chat next week (I'm out tomorrow) | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mahati proposed openstack/swift: OPTIONS verb implemented for object server. https://review.openstack.org/140103 | 19:28 |
| mahatic | notmyname, I consolidated the changes, wrote a test (only for object now). The test passed and when i did tested a while later it shows a python 2.7 error, can you take a look? | 19:30 |
| mahatic | when i tested* | 19:30 |
| notmyname | mahatic: with that current patch in gerrit? | 19:32 |
| mahatic | notmyname, yeah | 19:32 |
| notmyname | mahatic: ok. I'll try to take a look later today | 19:32 |
| mahatic | okay | 19:33 |
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| mahatic | notmyname, nevermind that error. It was my bad. Will upload a different patch | 19:42 |
| notmyname | mahatic: glad you found it :-) | 19:43 |
| mahatic | :) | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: fix dlo manifest file getting versioned https://review.openstack.org/140206 | 20:14 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: wait, did you just push a new patch set after acoles_away +2? and when I was just about finish reviewing it? | 20:15 |
| lcurtis | hello all...setting up a swift environment using swift proxies | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mahati proposed openstack/swift: OPTIONS verb implemented for object server. https://review.openstack.org/140103 | 20:16 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: sorry, it was just to fix that little change that matt has suggested | 20:16 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ah, ok. just s/segement/_junk/ | 20:16 |
| lcurtis | do the swift proxies need to be gateways for swift storage nodes? | 20:16 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: yes | 20:16 |
| notmyname | ya, good catch from mattoliverau | 20:16 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ok, I'll keep reviewing as if acoles_away still has a +2 on it :-) | 20:17 |
| notmyname | lcurtis: yes, the clients always talk to proxy servers and the proxies talk to storage nodes. clients never talk to storage nodes | 20:18 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: heh, ya. I was done and was running tests while I picked up lunch. got back and saw your new patch set :-) | 20:18 |
| mattoliverau | I do notice things from time to time :) | 20:18 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ok, merging it | 20:18 |
| tdasilva | notmyname, acoles_away: btw, I did not change my mind on that, I still think it is the correct fix. I just need to investigate SLO now >>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123765/ . | 20:18 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: ok | 20:18 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: that manifests should not be versioned? | 20:19 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: it seems to me that SLO manifests should be versioned | 20:19 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: because they actually contain content (e.g., json describing the segments) | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Mahati proposed openstack/swift: OPTIONS verb implemented for storage nodes. https://review.openstack.org/140103 | 20:21 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: so that would be a different behavior from DLO, just not sure if that is confusing or not...I'm sure it definitely needs to be well documented | 20:21 |
| mahatic | notmyname, resubmitted with tests for all the storage nodes. They pass in my environment :) | 20:22 |
| notmyname | mahatic: great. thanks | 20:22 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: ya, you have a good argument. and the argument against versioning SLOs is so that manifests do one thing | 20:23 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: "do one thing"? | 20:24 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: either "manifests can be versioned" or "manifests aren't versioned" | 20:24 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: ok, so you mean manifests regardless of being static or dynamic | 20:25 |
| tdasilva | i see | 20:25 |
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| ahale_ | i don't think it would be confusing if slo manifests get versioned with the data they explicitly define | 20:32 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ok, so the current state, with master and your patch, is that SLO manifests get put into the versions container. but they don't get restored properly | 20:34 |
| notmyname | and your patch fixes DLOs so that manifests don't get put into the versions container | 20:35 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: correct, which I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123765/ is trying to fix | 20:35 |
| notmyname | ok | 20:35 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: on that patch, you have the last comment and it references the discussions we had yesterday and today. can you update the review? | 20:36 |
| notmyname | ahale_: perhaps. :-) | 20:36 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: Yes, but I wanted to get a final resolution. Don't version either SLO or DLO manifests *or* don't version DLO and version SLO? | 20:37 |
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| notmyname | IMo the current state is worse that either of those | 20:38 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: currently, that patch is trying to make sure that both manifests are versioned, that's why I gave it a -1 | 20:38 |
| notmyname | ok | 20:39 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: ok, for now I'll add a comment to not version DLO but keep fixing the versionining of the SLO manifest | 20:41 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: if that's ok with you | 20:41 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ya, that's a pretty safe path forward. keep current DLO behavior right. and do something better for SLO (something other than the current state) | 20:41 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: thanks | 20:42 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: in the Swift/Ideas wiki there's an idea to "rewrite server-side-copy (COPY and PUT with x-copy-from) as middleware" | 20:59 |
| notmyname | yup | 20:59 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: what's the reasoning for moving copy to middleware? | 20:59 |
| notmyname | same basic thing as versioned writes | 21:00 |
| notmyname | makes the proxy code simpler, and it's actually just a feature that's a composition of existing stuff. so it completely works to be middleware | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: mmm, ok..I guess I just didn't see as a feature as obj. versioning is | 21:01 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: but it is a composition of existing stuff | 21:01 |
| zaitcev | Do we even have 3-rd party copy, where proxy initiates data transfer, but does not copy it? | 21:02 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: not sure I follow | 21:02 |
| tdasilva | notmyname, zaitcev: I was thinking more how nice it would be to be able to have a way of passing down the request to the object-server in certain cases | 21:03 |
| zaitcev | n/m, I'll look at the code ad become informed | 21:03 |
| tdasilva | so in the example of swiftonfile, it would be very simple to do a copy on the object-server | 21:03 |
| tdasilva | without having to read the data to the proxy | 21:03 |
| zaitcev | How is it "very simple"? I thought it was worse, by amount of code you or Luis have to write. In native back-end we already have replication doing similar copies, so it's the matter of directing those. In SonF you have to write the code that loops and copies, right? | 21:05 |
| tdasilva | mmm...I would think if you are on the same storage policy (i.e., same gluster volume) you just need to do a 'cp file1 to file2', no? am I over-simplifying it too much? | 21:08 |
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| zaitcev | A bit, I think. But I'm not up to speed in SonF code. BTW, today's Ric's e-mails tell me to pay closer attention, or I cannot even reason about what I'm hacking on. | 21:11 |
| zaitcev | Had too much fun playing with Ceph recently... | 21:12 |
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| tdasilva | zaitcev: ok, it was just an idea, but I think I understand the reason for moving to middleware regardless | 21:13 |
| tdasilva | as notmyname explained | 21:14 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: fun, or "fun"? | 21:14 |
| zaitcev | oh I'm fine, IIRC I reviewed when Sam moved SLO/DLO to middleware | 21:14 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 21:14 |
| zaitcev | notmyname: some of both. I'm intimidated by needless complexity that Swift's code does not have, because we don't have this mapping server that keeps data about cluster's health and all the PG maps | 21:15 |
| zaitcev | or actually scratch that | 21:16 |
| zaitcev | I think the worst is all the code micro-management, the utility of which is not clear to me | 21:16 |
| zaitcev | Like RWlocks | 21:16 |
| zaitcev | In kernel, if you have to resort to RWlocks, you've already lost. It's a signal to rewrite | 21:16 |
| zaitcev | Usually if it's reall super critical you already want to go a step beyond and consider RCU | 21:17 |
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| zaitcev | If not, just use normal locks, dammit WTF granularity | 21:17 |
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| notmyname | IMPORTANT: https://github.com/blog/1938-vulnerability-announced-update-your-git-clients | 21:28 |
| MooingLemur | notmyname: thanks | 21:32 |
| notmyname | ugh. of course I can't get a new version for os x on either git-scm or with brew | 21:34 |
| notmyname | wow. they just updated brew | 21:35 |
| notmyname | scratch that :-) | 21:35 |
| notmyname | `brew update && brew info git` shows the new version | 21:37 |
| zaitcev | What's "brew"? We used to have an internal build system called that, but it was superceded by so-called "Koji". So now I have an RPM called "i-cant-believe-its-not-brew-1.0-1.noarch", which includes /usr/bin/brew as a wrapper. | 21:40 |
| zaitcev | Sounds like a naming conflict with some other project. | 21:40 |
| zaitcev | Kinda how Facebook has git-review that's unrelated to OpenStack one. | 21:40 |
| swifterdarrell | zaitcev: it's how mac people use real software | 21:41 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: an os x package manager | 21:41 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: swifterdarrell: https://twitter.com/blueboxtraveler/status/453685413115203584 | 21:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: fix dlo manifest file getting versioned https://review.openstack.org/140206 | 22:03 |
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| zaitcev | Fedora is migrating from yum to DNF too, so... | 22:07 |
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| notmyname | anyone know of anything that came up this week that should prevent the RC from becoming the final 2.2.1 release? | 23:45 |
| zaitcev | not me | 23:46 |
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