Monday, 2019-04-08

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fricklertonyb: I have tested the eol script with the -d flag and the results look sane to me, hashes matching what I have listed in the releases patch11:57
fricklertonyb: I sent a mail to the list now, planning to wait a couple of days for possible objections and then continue with the retirement http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/004710.html11:58
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elodtonyb: smcginnis: I was out of office last week and now read through your conversation here about EM :) one minor comment: ocata EM "happened" *6* month ago. actually only manila and nova put the EM tag on their last release.15:22
elodand it's worth to mention Matt's propesed resolution as a source what EM is about: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html#end-of-life15:24
elodpike-em was "planned" (== ~18 months) to happen beginning of March, which actually is not so fortunate as most of teams are working hard to push final patches / features before Feature Freeze15:27
smcginniselod: Yeah, we missed the actual tagging step of that process.15:27
elodsmcginnis: yes, it seems so :( and thanks for your mail to ML, and of course tonyb's mail, too, maybe this time it will go better :)15:29
smcginnisNew process. We'll work out the kinks and steamline things eventually. ;)15:30
elodyes-yes! :)15:31
elodat least some "EM transition" timing discussion should happen I think:15:33
elod- when to start preparing for final release15:33
elod- when to EM-tag15:33
smcginnisTotally agree we need more communication around it. We need to make sure teams have enough lead time to prepare and do any final releases before it's too late.15:34
elodto not to collide with Feature Freeze and Release dates15:34
elodbecause around that time most of the team focuses on those stuff, not on soon-to-be EM branches15:35
smcginnisI forget where it was, but I did suggest we do it some time after the final release for the current cycle to make sure there is a small window where they don't need to be too concerned about current development while needing to be concerned about a final stable release for an older stable cycle.15:36
elodIf there will be such discussion in Denver I'm happy to participate :)15:36
smcginnisHere is the follow up from Ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650467/15:36
elodoh, thanks, this looks good \o/15:37
smcginnisBetter late than never. :)15:38
elodyepp :]15:38
elodsent a quick comment for the patch (manila and nova have already EM tag)15:41
elodotherwise it's great to have that! :)15:42
smcginnisThanks!15:48
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cmurphywe have some stein boilerplate that needs stable reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/keystone+OR+project:openstack/keystoneauth+OR+project:openstack/keystonemiddleware)+branch:stable/stein18:28
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smcginniscmurphy: One down. Would you like me to just push through the ones where I had already +2'd since these are just boilerplate patches?19:05
smcginnisThey are also not hugely time critical, so waiting is an option.19:06
cmurphysmcginnis: it can wait, just wanted to raise awareness19:10
smcginnis++19:11
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