Friday, 2017-10-13

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EmilienMttx, dhellmann, smcginnis: re: stable-policy - reading again the policy, I wonder if we really need a new tag or if we just want to amend the policy in http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html20:28
smcginnisEmilienM: I think we still have different expectations for normal service projects vs deployment projects with regards to what they should and should not do for stable releases.20:30
smcginnisEmilienM: But what are you thinking? Guess I should ask that first. :)20:31
EmilienMsmcginnis: I was thinking to update http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html and add a note for installer projects20:32
EmilienMI guess we have 2 options :20:32
EmilienM1. Create a new tag, associated to a new policy20:32
EmilienMwe would work with Kolla, OSA, TripleO (more?) to use/switch to this tag20:32
smcginnisEmilienM: Oh, I see what you're saying. Just have that a built in expectation that following stable policy is slightly different based on the type of project.20:33
EmilienMor 2. Amend the existing policy and explain what installers need20:33
EmilienMfor example, if we go with 2. I would say :20:33
EmilienM"For projects like installers, the stable policy is not as strict as other projects for X and Y reasons. This is what we allow: X and Y things, not allowed if not an installer"20:34
EmilienMnow I'm writting this, it also sounds confusing20:34
smcginnisThat would be my only concern.20:34
EmilienMI guess a new policy & a new tag is probably fine20:35
smcginnisI'm not against just amending the current policy. I think we would just need to make sure it's clear what applies to what.20:35
EmilienMI can start doing 1. and see how it goes.20:36
EmilienMI'll maybe realize it's not realistic20:36
EmilienMI was about doing 2. and realized it was complex when writting it here :D20:36
smcginnis:)20:36
smcginnisMore work, but maybe a good exercise to do both and see which one sits better.20:36
EmilienMyep20:37
EmilienMsmcginnis: I have an idea of how to do 1. - once I have something, I'll let you know, dhellmann, ttx and tonyb20:37
smcginnis++20:38
EmilienM(and also communicate on openstack-dev to reach out other installer teams)20:39
smcginnisThat would be good to get input from those impacted once you have something.20:41
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tonybEmilienM: Yeah I was kinda leaving the implementation until we have the discussion if the 2 policies are only slightly different then just add an if/else block to the existing policy if they're readically different then create a new tag21:11
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smcginnisMakes sense. Don't really need to create a whole new tag of there's just a small variance.21:23
smcginnisI think we just need to make it clear what is a deployment project so looking at the tag and looking at the project it's clear what the expectation is.21:23
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