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| mriedem | so....there is a set of backports for nova which i'd like some other stable cores opinions on | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I97147f8e0f749ee76f17569191e45eb520f7c88f,n,z | 14:01 |
| mriedem | the original change missed kilo b/c there was no bug for it and it looked more like a smallish feature (very trivial change), and it was around kilo feature freeze | 14:01 |
| mriedem | now sahid has created a bug after the fact for the backports to kilo and juno | 14:01 |
| mriedem | and there is a related glance change that hasn't had backports proposed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180326/ | 14:02 |
| mriedem | i don't like it really b/c the process is all backward, but it's also a pretty trivial change so i'm not sure if it's 'ok' for backports or not | 14:02 |
| mriedem | looking for input | 14:02 |
| ihrachyshka | mriedem, isn't it some kind of feature, even though we have a bug reported? (not every bug is an actual bug but maybe an enhancement) | 14:04 |
| mriedem | ihrachyshka: i'm not a vmware guy but it looks llke it just allows some other kind of vmware network config | 14:04 |
| mriedem | tjones said in the original change that it was a customer pain point for vmware | 14:05 |
| mriedem | so i understand why garyk is +2 on it | 14:05 |
| ihrachyshka | mriedem, re glance patch - does it mean we'll need to have the fix to support it in all components? | 14:06 |
| ihrachyshka | mriedem, the glance patch touches files inside etc/ meaning that an upgrade action would be needed from operator side to apply the change to the config file | 14:06 |
| mriedem | ihrachyshka: i'm not entirely sure, ericwb pointed out that if we backport the nova change we should also backport the glance change | 14:06 |
| mriedem | ericwb isn't around right now, i'll keep a look out for him to see if they really are both needed to work | 14:07 |
| ihrachyshka | mriedem, thanks for bringing it up | 14:13 |
| Daviey | I think we previously agreeed that "enablement" fits well into stable/*, providing interfaces remained consistent and unchanged defaults | 14:16 |
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| ihrachyshka | Daviey, then we need to adopt it in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Appropriate_Fixes | 14:20 |
| Daviey | ihrachyshka: Do you think enablement is contray to that section? | 14:21 |
| ihrachyshka | Daviey, I think there is a conflict with 'new features' at least it could be described more clear | 14:41 |
| Daviey | ihrachyshka: Yeah, i agree.. Let me see if i can find my logs from when we last disucssed it | 14:41 |
| ihrachyshka | Daviey, I suppose an email to openstack-dev@ with updated wording and several days to discuss would be enough to make it more clear | 14:43 |
| Daviey | ihrachyshka: Yeah, that is what i was thinking - but i wanted to base it around the prior discussion we had | 14:43 |
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| ihrachyshka | we need another +2 for neutron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181665/ | 15:06 |
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| mriedem | ihrachyshka: looks like you got it | 15:20 |
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| ihrachyshka | yeah | 15:24 |
| ihrachyshka | mriedem, what's the plan to kill Icehouse? AFAIK design summit session decided to kill it 'now'. | 15:25 |
| mriedem | ihrachyshka: i was going to bring that up actually, but didn't want to get into it right now :) | 15:25 |
| mriedem | ihrachyshka: i'll send my thoughts to the ML? | 15:26 |
| mriedem | basically scrub what's proposed now, -2/abandon anything not worth doing, then merge what's good and cut a release and eol? | 15:26 |
| mriedem | were my thoughts | 15:26 |
| ihrachyshka | mriedem, ok, sounds cool | 15:26 |
| mriedem | i don't have a good idea of the state of the gate for icehouse atm until i start looking at changes | 15:26 |
| ihrachyshka | mriedem, are we going to cut a release still? | 15:27 |
| mriedem | ihrachyshka: umm, idk | 15:27 |
| ihrachyshka | I thought we just drop it since no decision on new releases was done (?) | 15:27 |
| mriedem | i haven't been involved in prevoius eol | 15:27 |
| ihrachyshka | (note I was not present on the session) | 15:27 |
| mriedem | there are no new icehouse releases at all? | 15:27 |
| ihrachyshka | mriedem, ok, let's have an email thread and then get people involved (like apevec) | 15:28 |
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| mriedem | will do | 15:29 |
| ihrachyshka | thanks | 15:31 |
| Daviey | chaps.. how about stage that idea until we have the "dropping releases" thread? | 15:31 |
| Daviey | As that thread could probably answer this thread | 15:31 |
| Daviey | ttx: *prod* Are you kicking off a "dropping stable point releases" thread? | 15:32 |
| ttx | soon, tomorrow probably | 15:43 |
| ttx | have another one to start | 15:43 |
| mriedem | Daviey: that's fine, i still plan on going through stable/icehouse proposed changes and seeing what's out there, what's approval and what's completely fubar at this point | 15:56 |
| mriedem | so we have some idea of what we're dealing with | 15:56 |
| mriedem | *approvable | 15:56 |
| Daviey | mriedem: good thinking | 15:56 |
| mriedem | it's actually not that much | 15:57 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:stable/icehouse,p,003459e60002a16d | 15:57 |
| mriedem | 2 pages | 15:57 |
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| mriedem | Daviey: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178603/ | 16:18 |
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| Daviey | mriedem: i assume the hyperv error is totally unrelated? | 16:22 |
| mriedem | Daviey: hyperv shouldn't be running on stable/icehouse | 16:22 |
| mriedem | i'll poke on that separately | 16:23 |
| mriedem | same with vmware/nsx | 16:23 |
| Daviey | bam, done | 16:24 |
| mriedem | thanks | 16:26 |
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| mriedem | there is no ironic-stable-maint group in gerrit | 19:40 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: there is no stable maint group for devstack? | 21:28 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: this needs to be abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158178/ | 21:28 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: nope, devstack core has direct control over the stable branches too | 21:28 |
| mtreinish | ok, I'll abandon it | 21:29 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: not sure what you want to do with this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159695/ | 21:36 |
| mriedem | sounds like that's icehouse only b/c the plugin structure in devstack in juno makes it not a bug there | 21:36 |
| mriedem | something, idk | 21:36 |
| mriedem | words | 21:36 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: I'm inclined to just let it sit until we eol the branch :) | 21:40 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: me too | 21:40 |
| mriedem | 'oops' | 21:40 |
| mriedem | anyway, i went through a bunch of the stable/icehouse changes today, +2'ed some, abandoned others | 21:41 |
| mriedem | if others want to take a pass | 21:41 |
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