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| dstufft | tmcpeak: btw, https://status.python.org/incidents/v6cj56fc4r67 was the casue of those 503's you were getting | 13:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/183518 | 13:33 |
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| tmcpeak | dstufft: ahh, cool | 14:16 |
| dstufft | tmcpeak: turns out calling S3 a few times per file in the JSON response is pretty slow (oops, didn't notice that was in a loop) | 14:17 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: live and learn :) | 14:19 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: got a minute? | 14:22 |
| dstufft | tmcpeak: sure | 14:23 |
| tmcpeak | so I'd like to provide the capability to download signatures with pip install --download | 14:23 |
| tmcpeak | I think that's the right place for it to live | 14:23 |
| tmcpeak | before I start doing that, do you agree? | 14:23 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: ^ ? | 14:23 |
| dstufft | tmcpeak: the GPG signatures? | 14:24 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: yep | 14:24 |
| dstufft | tmcpeak: hmm, I'm not sure it makes sense for pip to download those files since pip won't ever use them. I'm not strictly against it but I'm not sure. You might want to post to pypa-dev about it? | 14:25 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: sure, yeah, so my reasoning is that I actually want that capability to be available for the OpenStack PyPI mirror tool.. which is using pip. But yeah, as you said… pip won't use them | 14:26 |
| tmcpeak | the other option is to develop a parallel tool that retrieves signatures, but that feels messier | 14:26 |
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| dstufft | tmcpeak: yea I'm not sure | 14:32 |
| dstufft | tmcpeak: pip wouldn't have a way of knowing that there _is_ a signature without relying on the JSON API | 14:33 |
| dstufft | which is something we don't do currently, so starting to probe the JSON api would be a pretty big change | 14:33 |
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| tmcpeak | dstufft: oh, you guys aren't using JSON at all? | 14:34 |
| dstufft | tmcpeak: no, we use /simple/<foo>/ | 14:34 |
| dstufft | it's a HTML page | 14:35 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: (I guess you can tell I haven't dove into the pip code yet) | 14:35 |
| tmcpeak | ahh | 14:35 |
| dstufft | (There's some history there, how we came to use HTML as a API heh) | 14:35 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: I imagine so :) , but the JSON is there… it's so NICE! :D | 14:36 |
| tmcpeak | well if nothing else, maybe I'll just create a wrapper around pip to do what I want ;) | 14:36 |
| tmcpeak | I posted on pypa-dev though, so we'll see what the folks think | 14:37 |
| dstufft | it's basically, originally there was no package managers at all and PyPI didn't host files at all it was just an index for people to be able to locate projects and find out where they were hosted. Then (and I'm not sure the order here) PyPI eventually added hosting, and easy_install came along and started scraping the /pypi/<foo>/ pages looking for links to files it could download (also looking for links that it could go look for | 14:38 |
| dstufft | more files to download), that was OK but it turns out it was causing a lot of bandwidth, so /simple/ was made which mirrored /pypi/ except it was jsut a list of links so it reduced b/w usage | 14:38 |
| dstufft | since then we've removed a lot of the "lol let's just go grab random links/urls it'll be fiiine" | 14:38 |
| dstufft | it does have the next effect that you can setup something that pip can understand with nothing more than any web server that can generate an auto index of links | 14:39 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: ahh, that makes sense.. I've been wondering about that format of repos I've seen | 14:40 |
| dstufft | tmcpeak: there are two basic repo formats, one is for --index-url / --extra-index-url, and it's basically $BASEURL (which has links to all of the indivdidual project pages) and $BASEURL + "packagename" + "/" (which has links to all of th efiles) | 14:41 |
| dstufft | the other one is --find-links, which is just $BASEURL which has links to all of the files | 14:42 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: ahhh | 14:43 |
| tmcpeak | dstufft: so PyPI itself implements both of those? | 14:43 |
| dstufft | well PyPI just has /simple/<foo>/ | 14:43 |
| dstufft | --find-links is more for "I have some files and I want to shove them in a dir and point nginx at it" | 14:44 |
| tmcpeak | I've seen that somewhere, can't think of where :P | 14:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Case Studies - Alice's Instance Security Management section https://review.openstack.org/183607 | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Case Studies - Alice's Instance Security Management section https://review.openstack.org/183607 | 17:04 |
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