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| openstackgerrit | Gauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/security-doc: Fixes for grammatical errors https://review.openstack.org/157456 | 17:19 |
| bdpayne | nkinder What are your thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157991/. We can't really do 2 +2's and a "core" review b/c it isn't an OpenStack project. What criteria should we use for accepting it? | 17:38 |
| bdpayne | nkinder Perhaps if you are happy then we should call it good? | 17:39 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: checking... | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/security-doc: Adding clarification to Networking's security guide references. https://review.openstack.org/157162 | 17:40 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: yeah, we can just waive the "core" requirement since there is not really a project associated with this. | 17:41 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: let me finish reviewing, then I'll +A if it looks good | 17:42 |
| bdpayne | sounds good, thanks! | 17:42 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: Approved. I'll publish it this afternoon when I get some free time. | 17:51 |
| bdpayne | cool, thanks again | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/security-doc: Add text for OSSN-0044 https://review.openstack.org/157991 | 17:56 |
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| bdpayne | It's time for the security guide meeting. Do we have anyone here for that? | 18:00 |
| sicarie | o/ | 18:00 |
| elmiko | yo/ | 18:00 |
| pdesai | Yup | 18:00 |
| bdpayne | hi everyone | 18:01 |
| bdpayne | so we can get started | 18:01 |
| sicarie | Doug's skiing (or traveling to/from) so I think he's going to miss this one | 18:01 |
| bdpayne | silly Doug | 18:01 |
| bdpayne | like skiing is more interesting than this ;-) | 18:01 |
| pdesai | lol | 18:02 |
| elmiko | hehe | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | on the agenda I have bug triage, open CRs, and that's about all | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | anything else? | 18:02 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 18:02 |
| sicarie | nope, that looks good | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=sec-guide | 18:02 |
| pdesai | i have discussion around the diagrams (images) and checklist | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | ok, sounds good | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | so let's start with bug triage | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | I just see one new one | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1425762 | 18:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1425762 in openstack-manuals "Database SSL transport config example missing OS service database config" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Shail Bhargava (shabharg) | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | so Shail filed this bug and already has a CR up | 18:04 |
| elmiko | nice | 18:04 |
| elmiko | sounds like maybe a high prio | 18:04 |
| bdpayne | I think this is valid, but perhaps a low | 18:04 |
| bdpayne | helps to clarify, but we aren't making a bad recommendation or anything like that | 18:04 |
| bdpayne | thoughts? | 18:04 |
| sicarie | My concern is around the use of SSL | 18:05 |
| elmiko | ahh, i thought it was missing info that was needed | 18:05 |
| sicarie | Though I haven't looked into this I would imagine TLS is possible | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | oh yeah | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | so I read this as we recommend setting up TLS on the database | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | but for openstack services to work with that, they will need the cert chain so that it can verify the connection | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | and we didn't talk about providing the cert chain | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | so yeah, we can comment on using TLS instead of SSL here | 18:07 |
| sicarie | Yep, definitely looks valid, probably medium? | 18:07 |
| bdpayne | Med/Low... I could do either | 18:08 |
| sicarie | Additionally, the example above is for PostGRE, this looks mysql specific, it'd be nice to either have a generic pointer, or examples for both (as it looks relatively small) if they're different | 18:08 |
| bdpayne | ok, I've added some comments | 18:10 |
| bdpayne | made it a medium | 18:10 |
| sicarie | +1 | 18:10 |
| bdpayne | ok, I don't see any others that need triage | 18:10 |
| bdpayne | so next step is to review open CRs | 18:11 |
| bdpayne | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157550/ | 18:11 |
| bdpayne | This is the "additional ways to configure SSL" one with content from Nathan's blog | 18:12 |
| bdpayne | I think the next step here is to adjust the colors on the images? | 18:12 |
| bdpayne | pdesai can you speak to this? | 18:12 |
| pdesai | yup, tried to play with inkscpae with Solarize palette but natively it does not have support for that palette | 18:12 |
| pdesai | same with Open Sans fonts | 18:13 |
| bdpayne | yeah, I think you just need to manually use those colors | 18:13 |
| bdpayne | the font is something you can add to your system | 18:13 |
| pdesai | Vector paint has support for solarize palette, i am exploring Vector Paint | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | ah, ok | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | that works too | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | so the next one is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157456/ | 18:14 |
| pdesai | how about we go with ascii flow otherwise? thoughts? | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | I think this is gtg, just need another review | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | pdesai I can help with the graphics if needed, I'd rather do that than move to ascii | 18:15 |
| elmiko | my preference is for the graphics, but if it becomes too big an issue then ascii as last resort | 18:15 |
| bdpayne | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158354/ has a merge conflict | 18:15 |
| elmiko | i'll echo bdpayne as well, if you need help i know inkscape pretty well | 18:15 |
| pdesai | ok cool, i will give it a shot tonight and if it doesnt work, i will reach out to bdpayne | 18:15 |
| bdpayne | cool | 18:16 |
| bdpayne | sicarie If you see Shellee could you ping here on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158354/ about the merge conflict? | 18:16 |
| bdpayne | should be straight forward to address | 18:16 |
| sicarie | Sure | 18:16 |
| bdpayne | thanks | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | next up is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159668/ | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | this is the CR associated with the bug we just triaged | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | it basically just needs reviews at this point | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | I'll look later today | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | finally we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157164/ | 18:17 |
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| bdpayne | pdesai on this one I guess we have some open formatting questions | 18:18 |
| bdpayne | Do you want to follow up with Anne to see if she has suggestions? | 18:18 |
| pdesai | this is hug, yup i have made significant progress and will upload new patch | 18:18 |
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| bdpayne | hug? | 18:19 |
| pdesai | i will follow up with her as well, on how to automate adding checklist in the appendix | 18:19 |
| bdpayne | ok cool | 18:19 |
| pdesai | oops typo, hug => huge | 18:19 |
| bdpayne | ahh | 18:19 |
| bdpayne | yeah, I know it would be more work up front, but I think it would pay off pretty quickly in terms of maintenance costs | 18:19 |
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| pdesai | yup, agree, hopefully we can finalize the format before next sync up | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | ok cool | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | thanks | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | so that's all that I have then | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | anything else to discuss? | 18:20 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 18:21 |
| pdesai | nope | 18:21 |
| sicarie | just ping'd shellee she's going to take a look at the merge conflict today | 18:21 |
| sicarie | nothing else from me | 18:21 |
| bdpayne | kk thanks all, I'll see you next week! | 18:21 |
| pdesai | thanks everyone | 18:21 |
| elmiko | thanks bdpayne ! | 18:21 |
| sicarie | thanks! | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dave Belcher proposed stackforge/bandit: Refactored AST processing https://review.openstack.org/160166 | 18:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/security-doc: Fixes for grammatical errors https://review.openstack.org/157456 | 18:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Fletcher proposed stackforge/bandit: Add mako templating plugin and XSS profile https://review.openstack.org/158801 | 19:48 |
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| fletcher | tmcpeak, chair6, ljfisher and tkelsey - so I've done some digging on the false negative related to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158801/ | 20:33 |
| fletcher | If you guys don't mind to go read the comment I've left and respond if you think you might know what's up | 20:33 |
| fletcher | the false negative appears to becoming from one of the utils functions not calucatling qualname list correctly | 20:33 |
| ljfisher | I think I see the bug | 20:37 |
| ljfisher | I think get_call_name returns just the base name and not the qualified name | 20:39 |
| ljfisher | was thinking there was a separate func for call qualname but don’t see it | 20:41 |
| fletcher | yah, neither do i | 20:41 |
| fletcher | during my debugging, i added some ast.walk stuff for the Attribute case, and the info is definitely all there | 20:42 |
| fletcher | do you know of an easy fix? | 20:42 |
| ljfisher | ah, I see. | 20:42 |
| fletcher | e.g. | 20:42 |
| fletcher | <_ast.Attribute object at 0x108cf34d0> <_ast.Attribute object at 0x108cf34d0> id: None name: None <_ast.Name object at 0x108cf35d0> id: mako name: None <_ast.Load object at 0x1089ee190> id: None name: None <_ast.Load object at 0x1089ee190> id: None name: None Template ['Template'] Template | 20:42 |
| fletcher | ahhhhhh, well that pasted horribly | 20:42 |
| ljfisher | is template an object? | 20:43 |
| fletcher | http://pastebin.com/ezRKifJh | 20:43 |
| fletcher | http://pastebin.com/1NbsVDRs | 20:43 |
| fletcher | that's what input file looks like | 20:43 |
| ljfisher | so we can’t get that | 20:43 |
| fletcher | Is that a question or statement? | 20:44 |
| ljfisher | statement | 20:44 |
| fletcher | Interesting, why not? | 20:44 |
| ljfisher | so mako.template returns an object, correct? | 20:44 |
| fletcher | based on my first pastebin, the info is there | 20:44 |
| fletcher | So if I do type(mako.template) | 20:46 |
| fletcher | it returns | 20:46 |
| fletcher | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'template' | 20:46 |
| ljfisher | as snipplet of the ast tree would be useful | 20:46 |
| fletcher | here ya go | 20:47 |
| fletcher | http://pastebin.com/d7npvrhQ | 20:47 |
| fletcher | maybe not exactly what you're looking for, but that's my debug output so far | 20:48 |
| ljfisher | when you run with -d you get dumps of the ast tree I think | 20:48 |
| fletcher | Kk | 20:49 |
| fletcher | http://pastebin.com/0e4zdypF | 20:49 |
| fletcher | also, thank for the help! :) | 20:51 |
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| ljfisher | ok, I think I see. So attributes are for access members of an object. | 20:54 |
| ljfisher | That object can be static or dynamic. | 20:55 |
| fletcher | uhhhh, sure! lol ;) | 20:56 |
| ljfisher | In this case is <package>.<module>.<class> and everything is static but we don’t know that | 20:56 |
| ljfisher | we have three levels in this case mako,template.Template | 20:56 |
| ljfisher | OpenStack code never does that so I missed it | 20:56 |
| ljfisher | or at least the code I’ve looked at | 20:57 |
| ljfisher | it seems to do ‘from make.template import Template’ | 20:57 |
| ljfisher | more often | 20:57 |
| fletcher | ah ok, so it sounds like you've got your head around a fix? | 20:57 |
| fletcher | yah, completely agree on the typical usecase | 20:57 |
| ljfisher | so we can resolve mako.template.Template | 20:58 |
| fletcher | i actually added a bunch of weird imports to see if something like this does happen | 20:58 |
| ljfisher | using import_aliases | 20:58 |
| ljfisher | that’s good | 20:58 |
| ljfisher | using just the information in the file we can’t tell if mako.template is an object, class, module | 20:58 |
| ljfisher | we could just take what we see in the file and sometimes it will work. | 21:00 |
| fletcher | So i'm a bit confused, doesn't the utils function have all the info necessary? | 21:00 |
| fletcher | just a matter of construct qualname_list differently? | 21:00 |
| ljfisher | Yeah. I was trying to be correct instead of making it work in most cases. | 21:01 |
| ljfisher | we could have module.foo.method call | 21:01 |
| ljfisher | where foo is an instance of Bar | 21:02 |
| ljfisher | we can’t write a test to detect all calls to Bar.method because we can’t tell foo is an instance of bar | 21:02 |
| ljfisher | but times like this mako case nothering in that function name is a variable | 21:03 |
| ljfisher | So I wanted calls to module.foo.method to resolve to Bar.method, but we can’t do that. It is probably safe to have module.foo.method resolve to module.foo.method even though that doesn’t tell you what is being called. Sometime we will call package.module.class and it will tell us enough to write a test. | 21:06 |
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| ljfisher | You are correct it is easy to see mako.template.Template. But hard to know to know what function that actually refers to without more information. But for writing tests it really doesn’t matter. | 21:08 |
| ljfisher | that make sense at all? | 21:09 |
| fletcher | sorry, back. catching up | 21:14 |
| fletcher | Yah, I *think* that makes sense to me | 21:16 |
| fletcher | So do you think that's a change you can make pretty easily? Or do you want me to attempt to? :) | 21:17 |
| tmcpeak | reading this | 21:19 |
| ljfisher | So I think what needs to happen is recursive dept-first traversal of Call.func to build up the attribute names. At each level we have to check the import_aliases table to see if an alias exists for the name and subtitute it if it does. | 21:23 |
| tmcpeak | fletcher, ljfisher: ok - I think bug makes sense (at least from a cursory level) | 21:23 |
| tmcpeak | that sounds like a pain in the ass | 21:23 |
| ljfisher | eh, I think about 10-15 lines :) | 21:24 |
| tmcpeak | do I hear a volunteer? :) | 21:24 |
| fletcher | lol | 21:24 |
| ljfisher | yeah, I’ll take a look. It really is my bug | 21:24 |
| fletcher | boom, nice | 21:24 |
| tmcpeak | sweet :) | 21:24 |
| tmcpeak | good catch with the extra testing @fletcher | 21:24 |
| fletcher | I'll be interested to see if this causes tests to fail, once it's fixed | 21:24 |
| fletcher | can't imagine it will | 21:24 |
| ljfisher | I punted on this case not thinking that all the components could be static | 21:24 |
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| tmcpeak | sure, well before that it was extremely primitive. Good to see this moving towards comprehensiveness | 21:25 |
| tmcpeak | comprehensivity | 21:25 |
| tmcpeak | or whatever the word is | 21:25 |
| tmcpeak | biab | 21:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Priti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Adding Security Checklist https://review.openstack.org/157164 | 22:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Fisher proposed stackforge/bandit: Return the full name used in calls https://review.openstack.org/160546 | 23:04 |
| ljfisher | fletcher try this to see if it fixes your problem ^ | 23:04 |
| fletcher | k, will check now | 23:05 |
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| fletcher | ljfisher: I think that fixed it! | 23:12 |
| fletcher | http://pastebin.com/jJDtiQLy | 23:13 |
| ljfisher | cool | 23:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dave Belcher proposed stackforge/bandit: Refactored AST processing https://review.openstack.org/160166 | 23:46 |
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