Friday, 2015-10-30

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GB21hello everyone00:24
GB21please tell me the place to meet today00:24
GB21thanks00:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/searchlight: Move httplib2 to test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23912701:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/searchlight: Remove unused JSON Schema code and requirement  https://review.openstack.org/23913001:06
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TravTsjmc7: GB21 is in the glance room and will be there for a bit01:09
TravTlakshmiS had breakfast with me, but I'm not sure where he just wandered off to01:09
TravThe'll probably be back shortly01:09
sjmc7ok01:10
TravTbriancline: if you want to get together today, we can01:10
GB21I will join u  all in the suzuran room soon01:10
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openstackgerritSteve McLellan proposed openstack/searchlight: Remove unused pycrypto dependency  https://review.openstack.org/23912801:29
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sjmc7briancline, let me know if you're around02:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/searchlight: Remove unused pycrypto dependency  https://review.openstack.org/23912802:09
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brianclineTravT: sjmc7: sure thing. my day is a bit more limited than I was expecting, but can meet around lunch time if you're free then02:10
sjmc7i was curious if there'd ever been a plan to add oslo messaging notifications to swift02:12
brianclinenot to my knowledge. in vancouver they had a preference for possibly zaqar, but i'd like to make the case for swift's notification middleware to use oslo.messaging02:15
brianclineor at least be pluggable02:16
brianclinein the event they are very attached to the idea of zaqar02:17
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* briancline has a few concerns about using zaqar with the kind of notification rates we'd be seeing in our swift clusters02:19
sjmc7yeah...02:24
sjmc7zaqar's a bit problematic for us02:24
sjmc7and it's not really what i would consider a use case for zaqar02:25
sjmc7there's a patch up in swift for middleware using zaqar (christian authored it)02:25
TravTi spoke with flavio about zaqar02:27
TravTand he stated that zaqar isn't intended to replace rabbit mq02:28
TravTand isn't as fast as rabbitmq02:28
brianclineyeah, the persistence of messages is one thing that bothers me in particular, and the overhead of requests, etc.02:29
brianclineamongst others02:32
brianclinesomehow i missed the notification patch. just looked it up, seems one of the cores have similar issues02:33
sjmc7well, zaqar looks similar to SQS in amazon02:40
sjmc7which is typically used by distributed applications02:40
sjmc7using it for infrastructure messaging seems unwise02:40
sjmc7it's also a bit misleading since 'notifications' for most other services does mean oslo messaging02:41
TravTyes, also, oslo messaging is adding support for kafka02:41
TravTso, being behind oslo messaging allows the deployer to make the choice02:42
sjmc7there's a choice with the patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196755/) but it requires an endpoint that accepts JSON POSTs02:52
brianclineyeah, was noticing that. so in its current state still requires some other layer to be there02:54
brianclinewe've beeen talking about kafka internally at softlayer for our next rev of this as well, so that's cool to see o.m adding kafka to the list of options02:54
brianclineit's likely some of the swift folks won't want oslo.messaging primarily based on its dependency chain02:58
brianclinehowever the keystonemiddleware dependency introduces a lot of overlapping ones already02:58
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