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GB21 | hello everyone | 00:24 |
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GB21 | please tell me the place to meet today | 00:24 |
GB21 | thanks | 00:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/searchlight: Move httplib2 to test-requirements https://review.openstack.org/239127 | 01:06 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/searchlight: Remove unused JSON Schema code and requirement https://review.openstack.org/239130 | 01:06 |
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TravT | sjmc7: GB21 is in the glance room and will be there for a bit | 01:09 |
TravT | lakshmiS had breakfast with me, but I'm not sure where he just wandered off to | 01:09 |
TravT | he'll probably be back shortly | 01:09 |
sjmc7 | ok | 01:10 |
TravT | briancline: if you want to get together today, we can | 01:10 |
GB21 | I will join u all in the suzuran room soon | 01:10 |
GB21 | :D | 01:10 |
openstackgerrit | Steve McLellan proposed openstack/searchlight: Remove unused pycrypto dependency https://review.openstack.org/239128 | 01:29 |
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sjmc7 | briancline, let me know if you're around | 02:08 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/searchlight: Remove unused pycrypto dependency https://review.openstack.org/239128 | 02:09 |
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briancline | TravT: sjmc7: sure thing. my day is a bit more limited than I was expecting, but can meet around lunch time if you're free then | 02:10 |
sjmc7 | i was curious if there'd ever been a plan to add oslo messaging notifications to swift | 02:12 |
briancline | not to my knowledge. in vancouver they had a preference for possibly zaqar, but i'd like to make the case for swift's notification middleware to use oslo.messaging | 02:15 |
briancline | or at least be pluggable | 02:16 |
briancline | in the event they are very attached to the idea of zaqar | 02:17 |
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* briancline has a few concerns about using zaqar with the kind of notification rates we'd be seeing in our swift clusters | 02:19 | |
sjmc7 | yeah... | 02:24 |
sjmc7 | zaqar's a bit problematic for us | 02:24 |
sjmc7 | and it's not really what i would consider a use case for zaqar | 02:25 |
sjmc7 | there's a patch up in swift for middleware using zaqar (christian authored it) | 02:25 |
TravT | i spoke with flavio about zaqar | 02:27 |
TravT | and he stated that zaqar isn't intended to replace rabbit mq | 02:28 |
TravT | and isn't as fast as rabbitmq | 02:28 |
briancline | yeah, the persistence of messages is one thing that bothers me in particular, and the overhead of requests, etc. | 02:29 |
briancline | amongst others | 02:32 |
briancline | somehow i missed the notification patch. just looked it up, seems one of the cores have similar issues | 02:33 |
sjmc7 | well, zaqar looks similar to SQS in amazon | 02:40 |
sjmc7 | which is typically used by distributed applications | 02:40 |
sjmc7 | using it for infrastructure messaging seems unwise | 02:40 |
sjmc7 | it's also a bit misleading since 'notifications' for most other services does mean oslo messaging | 02:41 |
TravT | yes, also, oslo messaging is adding support for kafka | 02:41 |
TravT | so, being behind oslo messaging allows the deployer to make the choice | 02:42 |
sjmc7 | there's a choice with the patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196755/) but it requires an endpoint that accepts JSON POSTs | 02:52 |
briancline | yeah, was noticing that. so in its current state still requires some other layer to be there | 02:54 |
briancline | we've beeen talking about kafka internally at softlayer for our next rev of this as well, so that's cool to see o.m adding kafka to the list of options | 02:54 |
briancline | it's likely some of the swift folks won't want oslo.messaging primarily based on its dependency chain | 02:58 |
briancline | however the keystonemiddleware dependency introduces a lot of overlapping ones already | 02:58 |
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