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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add shared file systems support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77355605:23
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add a manila functional check job  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77631205:34
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openstackgerritDylan Zapzalka proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: WIP Added support for the Limits resource  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77631806:16
openstackgerritAlexander Wilcox proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: This is the Host Extension Resource, for capstone.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77632006:19
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openstackgerritRyan Zimmerman proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add compute microversion 2.70  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77633007:28
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openstackgerritWill Tome proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: add option to exclude legacy groups  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/76604712:03
openstackgerritArtem Goncharov proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Switch cloud.networking.qos* operations to rely on proxy layer  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77094512:14
openstackgerritShnaidman Sagi (Sergey) proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add Octavia job for testing LB  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/77261312:17
openstackgerritArtem Goncharov proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Switch cloud.networking.qos* operations to rely on proxy layer  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77094512:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstacksdk master: Add TODO to remove md5 wrapper  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77628112:22
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diablo_rojoMeeting today gtema and stephenfin?14:02
gouthamro/14:03
diablo_rojoOh and gouthamr :)14:03
gtemaI'm available14:03
diablo_rojoI didn't build an agenda but we can throw one together?14:04
diablo_rojogouthamr,  did you have topics?14:04
gtemayupp, can be done14:04
gouthamrdiablo_rojo: yes14:04
gouthamrsorry, i meant to add them - can we wing it?14:05
diablo_rojogouthamr, feel free to add it: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstacksdk-meeting-agenda14:05
* gouthamr types 14:05
gtema#startmeeting sdk_osc14:05
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 18 14:05:41 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gtema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:05
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sdk_osc'14:05
diablo_rojoo/14:06
gtemaas I placed right now on the agenda we can discuss shifting meeting time to 15:00 or even 16:0014:06
gtemaWe picked this time to also give amotoki chance to participate14:06
diablo_rojoI am 100% cool with later lol14:07
gtemabut he doesn't participate now, so perhaps we can move it to make diablo_rojo sleeping a bit longer14:07
diablo_rojoit was a struggle to get out of bed.14:07
diablo_rojoYESSSSS14:07
gouthamr+1, but 16:00 please14:07
gtemaokay to 16:00. Objections?14:07
gouthamrdiablo_rojo: it will get better in just a couple of weeks :)14:07
diablo_rojoSounds good to me.14:08
* stephenfin wanders in late14:08
gouthamr(or not, DST ends March 14th)14:08
diablo_rojogtema, did you want to put up the patch? Or should I?14:08
stephenfin16:00 clashes with the nova meeting on #openstack-meeting-314:09
gtemaI can do so. It actually got broken in new year, since the schedule assumes every week%3, which moved this year14:09
stephenfinno issues from me but just be aware that I won't be 100% present14:09
stephenfin:)14:09
diablo_rojogtema, gouthamr fixed that I think14:09
gtemaso if you downloaded ICL you get entry for one week earlier14:09
stephenfinwell, depending on what comes up in that meeting obv14:09
diablo_rojoMaybe we do 15 UTC then?14:09
gouthamryeah the ical's fixed: https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/irc-meetings/+/77593314:10
diablo_rojoHonestly, even one hour later would be wonderful.14:10
gouthamrdiablo_rojo: clashes with the manila meeting14:10
gouthamrand the TC meeting, and the security-sig meeting14:11
gtemalet's keep it for 16 then, when there is need we anyway can discuss separately14:11
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stephenfinYeah, 16:00 works. You can ping me if my attention is needed14:12
gtemaagreed14:12
amotokisorry I didn't attend here every time. I am okay to move the time to what you prefer.14:12
gtemagood14:12
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gtemanext 3 topics are all about students :)14:13
gouthamr\o/14:13
gtemawould be great if they also participate here, otherwise in 2 hours we have next meeting14:13
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ashrod98[m]I'm here! A BU Student :)14:14
gtemacool14:14
gouthamrhey there, ashrod98[m] and NicoleBU14:14
diablo_rojoOh hey that's cool :)14:14
NicoleBUhello!14:14
ashrod98[m]I'm helping Mark set up with NickServ14:15
ashrod98[m]so he'll be here monetarily14:15
gtemaI had a another look to manila patches today14:15
diablo_rojoashrod98[m], nice :)14:15
gouthamrgreat14:15
gtemafirst SDK batch is good to go (just perhaps need to drop version resource, since it doesn't really work at all14:15
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gtemabut adding new manila job is something worying me14:16
ashrod98[m]markypharaoh: hello!14:16
gtemawe have already lot of jobs and it take ages to get the status14:16
markypharaoh[m]aloha14:16
gtemaso I think it make sense to try to reduce amount of jobs, but to pack more components there14:16
* gouthamr markypharaoh[m] has a hawaii theme for irc too!14:16
gouthamrgtema: sure, i don't mind that at all14:17
gouthamrwhat sort of consolidation are we looking at? related services? all in one?14:17
gtemawe have currently dedicated networking with lot's of networking services14:18
gtemaothers seem to be really more service oriented (few for ironic)14:18
gtemamasakari14:18
gtema...14:19
gtemaperhaps we should leave networking (since it is already "heavy") and pack all others together14:19
gtemaI guess it is hard to find proper balance14:20
gouthamryeah, we'd surely consume lesser test nodes if we consolidated - although i expect devstack for manila to be really fast14:20
gouthamri'm trying to use a fake backend driver for this functional test job and turn off other services14:21
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77631214:21
gouthamrthe fake backend driver is what we use for functional/api testing in other client projects - because we're not testing the data path - just the API14:21
gtemaright14:22
gtemaI suggest gouthamr you make it working and then we figure out where to squeeze it in14:23
gouthamrack will do, failing currently because i'm missing an important devstack local.conf parameter :)14:23
gtemagreat14:24
gtemado we have student related (or from students) questions?14:24
gouthamrlemme formally introduce ashrod98[m] (Ashley Rodriguez), NicoleBU (Nicole Chen) and markypharaoh[m] (Mark Tony)14:24
diablo_rojoI for one am STOKED you are all on IRC.14:25
NicoleBUHello! Its nice to meet you guys :)14:25
ashrod98[m]hello! Nice to meet you14:25
markypharaoh[m]Hi Team !!!14:25
gtemaawesome, welcome14:25
gtemaI guess you are all also half sleeping?14:26
gouthamrthey've started working on adding follow up patches..14:26
markypharaoh[m]No questions from my end.. nicole, ashley?14:26
gouthamr#link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ashrod98-openstacksdk-manila-support/kanban (the manila openstacksdk backlog)14:26
ashrod98[m]nah its 9 am around here so I'm awake. and no questions from me. Just working through some unit testing right now14:26
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gtemaUS is too wide to keep all TZ in the head :)14:27
NicoleBUSame here, I don't currently have any questions14:27
stephenfino/14:27
gtemabut still better than RUS14:27
diablo_rojoIts the west coast that gets you. Three hours is a lot lol.14:27
ashrod98[m]haha yeah 6 am is wayyyy early14:27
gtemawhat is the timeline for BU to participate?14:28
gouthamrgtema: they're graduating in may14:28
gtemaok, similar to NDSU14:29
gtemajust 2 month to go14:29
diablo_rojoCorrect.14:29
gtemawe are nearly in spring already14:29
diablo_rojoTime flies.14:29
gtemasure14:29
diablo_rojoExcept it does more so when we can lol.14:29
* gouthamr hears pomp and circumstance in the background14:29
gouthamrdeep, diablo_rojo14:30
ashrod98[m]Yeah our class presentations are in April. We hope to have few more patches in by then14:30
gtemawe should perhaps speed up then, not to waste precious time14:30
gouthamri've got a couple of questions wrt the base patch that's out there:14:30
diablo_rojogtema, +114:30
gtemasure14:30
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/773556/ (Add shared file systems support)14:30
gouthamrso this Version resource question, gtema - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/773556/4/openstack/shared_file_system/version.py14:31
gouthamrcan we allow this to merge, and address it from all services at once?14:31
gtemaI am not sure we can make it properly working that easy14:32
gouthamror, can we add a versions proxy method?14:32
gtemawe do not talk with unversioned endpoint at all14:32
gtemathis is all delegated to KSA14:32
gtemaI guess this exists historically, but I have never seen it working14:32
gtemaversions method on proxy will not work, since you really need to send request to unversioned point14:33
gtemaof course we can hack it, but this is not something I like14:33
amotokiI think the current sdk depends on KSA regarding version discovery and we assume clouds.yaml or other info provides the major version info, right?14:34
gtemaright14:34
amotokiI am not sure we really query the unversioned URL14:34
gtemaexactly - we do not14:34
gtemathis is all done in KSA, we get back the versioned one already14:34
gtemawe can, however, get list of supported versions from KSA14:35
gouthamr^ i think my usecase of "what api versions are supported" is met with the get_all_version_data() method from teh connection object14:35
gtemaand for that we would not need individual service version resource, I would vote for making it general (if doing it at all)14:36
gouthamrbut, i thought we could prettify it a bit14:36
gouthamrcan i take a stab at this, post this merging?14:36
gtemagouthamr, generally you don't mess with microversions at all14:36
gouthamrerm, why?14:36
gtemaas a user you should be abstracted from that14:36
gtemawe did lot to make this transparent14:36
gtemauser doesn't need to know in which MV function was added14:37
gtemahe just says - I want X, and SDK says, sorry, X is not supported in your case14:37
gouthamri see, yes - that'd be the case for most users14:37
gtemaOSC is in it's side also getting MV handling "dropped"14:37
gtemaon the resource level you specify which MV it corresponds to and all operations on it automatically get this MV used (unless server doesn't support it)14:38
toskytalking about that (sorry for jumping in)... can we move forward with this, or an equivalent solution? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/59080714:38
gtemaon the functions side you implement a check (or better to say: MV x.y is required for this to work)14:39
tosky(if it's unrelated I'll wait of course; that's a major pain point in "selling" OSC internally in cinder)14:39
gtemawe move a bit into different direction, gimme a sec14:39
gtemahttps://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/openstack/compute/v2/hypervisor.py#L9014:40
gtemaOSC user just tells: I want this and that. SDK verifies with the server whether it is possible or not14:41
gtemafor cinder our NDSU students will complete SDK part and we can move OSC to use SDK14:41
gtemawith that MV handling will pretty much be offloaded from users completely14:42
gtemawe are doing this currently for nova, albeit with no big progress in last month14:42
gtemaanother example of tricky MV implementation is https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/openstack/compute/v2/_proxy.py#L180714:44
gtemathis literally was dropped from OSC and handled in SDK14:44
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gtemafurther questions about MV?14:45
amotokiOSC user still needs to specify MV, right?14:45
toskyI understand that's an internal restructuring, but when it's time to go back to the cinder part of OSC, it would be better to advertise that in the cinder channels as well14:45
gtemaamotoki - user CAN, but he doesn't need14:45
gtemahighest possible will be used14:46
amotokigtema: so does user need to specify the major version only?14:46
tosky(and see if anything can be fixed there: apart from this supposed "microversions are not supported" claims which pop up from time to time, another complain is about some choices in the parameters which may not match the expectations on the cinder side)14:46
gtemait depends on the service catalog - pretty much it "picks" major version for us14:46
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gouthamr i don't fully understand the version negotiation aspect in https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/openstack/utils.py#L98 - i'll read up more14:47
gtematosky, I know this pops up as a complain often14:47
gouthamrin the meanwhile, i'll submit a patch dropping the versions resource14:47
gouthamrfrom the manila implementation'14:47
gtemaand we thought it make not much sense to continue convincing people, we just need to start doing things14:47
gtemaI was hoping to complete together with stephenfin nova part this cycle to be a show case for other teams14:48
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gtemanot sure, however, we will be in time (busy times)14:48
amotokigtema: thanks. I will try to follow it up.14:49
gtemacool14:49
gtemasummary: SDK negotiates it's own max version, max version supported by server and the one optionally selected by the user14:49
gtemaand picks the highest possible14:49
gouthamr^ thanks for that clarification14:50
gtemathis gives user still possibility to fall back to the older one14:50
gouthamrone last thing regarding this $topic14:50
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystoneauth/+/774042 (Specify manila microversion header)14:50
gouthamr^ we need this to merge to get things to work for manila14:51
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gouthamrso if there are keystoneauth reviewers in the room, i'd love some help :)14:51
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gtemasadly nobody14:52
* diablo_rojo hears crickets 14:52
diablo_rojoLol14:52
gouthamrhaha :)14:52
gouthamrokay i'll ask in the keystone channel14:52
stephenfingouthamr: You probably want to bring it up on #openstack-keystone14:52
stephenfinyeah14:52
amotokigouthamr: one question14:52
gtemaI'm wondering there is nothing for cinder over there14:52
amotokigouthamr: don't we use OpenStack-API-Version: <service> <version> for such case?14:53
stephenfinfwiw, I've got very little feedback on any of my keystone-related stuff lately, but if you keep prodding hopefully you'll get somewhere14:53
amotokirather than OpenStack-Compute-API-Version. I need to find the source on what we discussed so far though.14:54
gouthamramotoki: not with manila unfortunately, i can follow up right after this meeting - but, the gist is that we missed the boat on that standardization, and there's a lot of existing clouds out there to update now14:54
gouthamrstephenfin: ack, will do :)14:54
stephenfinzimmerry, diablo_rojo: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/74537514:54
gouthamrwe've six minutes, and i'd like to say hi to other diablo_rojo prodigies :)14:54
diablo_rojoThanks stephenfin!14:55
diablo_rojoOh I don't think all the NDSU students are here just wanted to make the logs aware that these other folks exist :)14:55
diablo_rojoI saw someone from windriver starting to work on Cinder things and I wanted to make sure they are aware of what the NDSU students are doing14:56
gtemagood, do we have something else?14:57
diablo_rojoBut I don't know thiago's irc nick so I don't know if they are here14:58
diablo_rojoSo I guess I don't have much else atm.14:59
gtemathen we are good to end the meeting14:59
diablo_rojogtema, yep I believe so14:59
gtemathanks everybody for participation14:59
diablo_rojothanks for running it!14:59
gtemawas more than I was actually expecting ;-)14:59
gtema#endmeeting14:59
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markypharaoh[m]cheers14:59
gouthamrthanks everyone!15:00
amotokithanks!15:00
diablo_rojothanks for attending markypharaoh[m] :) NicoleBU24 and ashrod98[m] as well :)15:00
diablo_rojogouthamr, zimmerry is the OSU student :)15:00
amotokiwe moved into too specific discussions and I am a bit afraid we can have good input for them.....15:01
ashrod98[m]of course! looking forward to the next one :D15:01
markypharaoh[m]ofcourse... excited to work with y'all15:01
gtemasee you15:01
gtema(and some already in an hour)15:01
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ashrod98[m]enjoy the rest of your day!15:02
diablo_rojogtema, you and stephenfin will be sick of me before long lol15:02
gouthamrzimmerry: o/15:02
gtema:)15:02
gouthamrhello, and welcome!15:02
zimmerryhello!15:03
diablo_rojogouthamr, zimmerry is working on Nova stuff for us :)15:03
diablo_rojoDoesn't look like any of the NDSU students are currently on IRC>15:04
openstackgerritTakashi Kajinami proposed openstack/openstackclient master: Remove retired Karbor usage  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstackclient/+/77647715:04
gtemathey are still sleeping ;-)15:04
diablo_rojogtema, definitely possible. I would be sleeping if I were them lol15:06
diablo_rojounfortunately, I am now in a TC meeting and then we meet and then I meet with the BU students and then I have a storyboard meeting and then I have one other meeting before I can nap lol15:07
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Specify manila microversion header  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystoneauth/+/77404216:38
openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add shared file systems support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77355616:48
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add a manila functional check job  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77631217:01
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openstackgerritShnaidman Sagi (Sergey) proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add Octavia job for testing LB  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/77261317:43
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openstackgerritAnuradha proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Improve Ironic API on OpenStack SDK  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/76653119:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystoneauth master: Specify manila microversion header  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystoneauth/+/77404221:17
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openstackgerritDylan Zapzalka proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: WIP Added support for the Limits resource  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/77631823:28
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