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| openstackgerrit | Bram Verschueren proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add os_routers_info module https://review.opendev.org/703927 | 07:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bram Verschueren proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: fix os_user_role for groups in multidomain context https://review.opendev.org/703930 | 07:26 |
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| elmiko | dtantsur: is there another ansible meeting during the office hour today? | 10:56 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: probably? sshnaidm? | 11:25 |
| sshnaidm | elmiko, dtantsur I think as usual, ansible-sig mtg | 11:26 |
| sshnaidm | I'll start it anyway, if no participants will close, 16.00 UTC | 11:26 |
| elmiko | thanks dtantsur and sshnaidm | 11:26 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: did you want to discuss anything re API SIG? | 11:27 |
| elmiko | i am travelling currently and i might not be able to be around for the meeting | 11:27 |
| elmiko | no, i don't think i have any specific topics | 11:27 |
| sshnaidm | if you're here, please vote :) https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703342/ | 11:27 |
| elmiko | i /still/ would like to get back to a few PRs for the guidelines, but i have not found any spare time | 11:28 |
| dtantsur | same.. | 11:32 |
| elmiko | ^5 | 11:32 |
| elmiko | bbl o/ | 11:33 |
| dtantsur | mordred, gtema, when you have time, a very simple CI fix: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703739/ | 11:33 |
| gtema | ok | 12:00 |
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| dtantsur | thx | 12:03 |
| gtema | wlcm | 12:04 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, how do I make clean node with SDK? that's all I found: https://docs.openstack.org/openstacksdk/train/user/proxies/baremetal.html#openstack.baremetal.v1._proxy.Proxy.set_node_provision_state | 12:07 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: you mean, run cleaning? what exactly are you trying? | 12:09 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, run cleaning, yes | 12:09 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: this is the call to run manual cleaning, yes. I can help you more if you tell me the context. | 12:10 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, I think I need a parallel to "openstack baremetal node clean " | 12:10 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: okay, so do set_node_provision_state('clean', clean_steps=...) | 12:10 |
| dtantsur | eeehhmm, missed a node, but I think you get an idea | 12:11 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: you can ping me for any related reviews (it's actually quite encouraged) | 12:14 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, ack, preparing now ansible module for that in tripleo | 12:15 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: they it's even more encouraged (tripleo has a.. hmm.. known track of misunderstanding ironic ;) | 12:15 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, traditions | 12:16 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, it's everything :) | 12:16 |
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| dtantsur | :D | 12:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Use the bifrost bionic CI job https://review.opendev.org/703739 | 13:19 |
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| sshnaidm | whoever is available for ansible sig meeting, in 2 minutes | 15:59 |
| dtantsur | in another meeting, but lurking | 15:59 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, mordred gtema odyssey4me mnaser | 16:00 |
| sshnaidm | just pinging all from etherpad | 16:00 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, ack | 16:00 |
| sshnaidm | #startmeeting api-sig | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 23 16:00:48 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sshnaidm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:00 |
| odyssey4me | heh, somehow I'm in three meetings at once :) | 16:00 |
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| sshnaidm | who is available? | 16:01 |
| gtema | me | 16:01 |
| sshnaidm | if there are conflict we can change time meeting | 16:01 |
| dtantsur | I'd prefer to, to be honest | 16:01 |
| dtantsur | and since we're occupying the API SIG slot, we should probably set up a special meeting for our working group | 16:01 |
| sshnaidm | ok, will create a poll in etherpad about a new time | 16:01 |
| dtantsur | an hour earlier later would work for me, for example | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | * or later | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: you can start a doodle or similar | 16:02 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, yeah, good idea | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, or we could agree on a SIG meeting time... when trying to get https://review.opendev.org/697278 done I couldn't find an appropriate set time for the SIG to set the schedule | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | odyssey4me: if we don't use one of the meeting channels, we can probably use any time that works for us | 16:03 |
| sshnaidm | ok, we'll see in doodle which is best | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | dtantsur: yep, easy enough - I just wanted to make it easy to communicate and get updates | 16:03 |
| sshnaidm | #action sshnaidm to choose better time for sig meeting | 16:03 |
| sshnaidm | So, as you can know from openstack-discuss list the tranisition is in the progress. Tracking of it is in our etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-modules | 16:04 |
| sshnaidm | In these weeks I'd ask everybody for reviewes asap not to block peoples workflow, please. Take a look: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703342/ | 16:04 |
| sshnaidm | We have in CI the same job that was running before in Ansible PRs, so we're covered at least the same as before now. | 16:04 |
| sshnaidm | went over all PRs in github for OS ansible modules and left a message about tranistion, but it can be still merges. We'll sync all things when modules will be removed from 2.10 completely. It will happen in next 3 weeks when ansible folks fix their sync of docs from collections. | 16:04 |
| sshnaidm | Meanwhile I'll prepare these PRs in ansible github. | 16:04 |
| sshnaidm | There are some issues with collection names and using them in roles/playbooks, so we'll need to mention the full collection names for now, "FQCN" | 16:05 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, to your question ^ | 16:06 |
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| gtema | yupp. But I think once modules are removed in ansible it is fine | 16:06 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, in 2.10 only though | 16:07 |
| gtema | I think we also need to agree to accept new modules WITHOUT os_ prefix | 16:07 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, yeah, so another requirement from ansible team was not renaming till 2.11 | 16:07 |
| sshnaidm | since it can cause problems with collection and their usage, which may change any time | 16:08 |
| gtema | also I will revive mordred's patch for implementing base Module class in the module_utils, it makes life easier (did this for my own collection same) | 16:08 |
| sshnaidm | I think we can wait a little with renaming | 16:08 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, yeah, just need to rebase it | 16:08 |
| gtema | sshnaidm: ansuble guys want that in our repo we do not rename modules? | 16:08 |
| gtema | i thought it was ok with BOTMETA | 16:08 |
| sshnaidm | we are good now to develop new modules, we already have a few in reviews | 16:09 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, it's not so easy, turns out, and things are changing fast there | 16:09 |
| gtema | crap, it's like with Openshift - things are changing and thus no release possible. What are you doing there at RedHat ;-) | 16:10 |
| sshnaidm | just talked this week with bcoca, Paul, gundalow on ansible-devel and to be safe it's worth to wait with renaming | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | drinking | 16:10 |
| gtema | that's for sure | 16:10 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, yeah, it's our main purpose here :D | 16:10 |
| gtema | ok, but then let's agree on accepting new modules without prefix | 16:10 |
| gtema | you drink, and I am dying 4th day already | 16:11 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, I'm not sure if it worth it, when finally renaming we can do it in bulk | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | sounds sensible to me, I guess the ask for preventing renames for a while is to allow a deprecation period | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | if the deprecation notice is up, but new modules don't have the prefix - then we're good | 16:11 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, and to have it with os_ is keeping consistency | 16:11 |
| gtema | ok, #agreed | 16:12 |
| sshnaidm | so that all I have from ansible team for now | 16:12 |
| gtema | what about release jobs? | 16:13 |
| sshnaidm | we're good to add more tests, more jobs | 16:13 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, yeah, good point | 16:13 |
| gtema | I would be happy to start consuming collection from my projects | 16:13 |
| sshnaidm | I stole a pushing job from Paul and working on it | 16:13 |
| sshnaidm | need to ping mordred about pushing to galaxy, because he has the access only | 16:13 |
| sshnaidm | maybe it's worth even to push what we have now and then to do it with releases and push-job | 16:14 |
| sshnaidm | I'm only for early usage to see if everything is ok, etc | 16:14 |
| sshnaidm | #action sshnaidm to add a publishing job | 16:15 |
| sshnaidm | #action mordred to publish collection or to share access for galaxy namespace | 16:16 |
| gtema | yeah, the interesting issue I found using collection on galaxy - you can't update/delete pushes | 16:16 |
| gtema | so whatever we push - stay there with this name forever | 16:16 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, yeah, you need a new version | 16:16 |
| gtema | or at least until you redhat guys drink another beer | 16:16 |
| gtema | I know about new ver, I mean before pushing you really need to be sure it works | 16:17 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, you can submit issues for galaxy, btw, I submitted one about editing namespace and it was solved | 16:17 |
| sshnaidm | SURPRISINGLY | 16:17 |
| gtema | oh yes, suprisingly. You also need to open issue to add maintainers to your org, ... | 16:18 |
| gtema | and lot's of things are "undocumented" | 16:18 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, you can add them, I did | 16:18 |
| gtema | so my life is great | 16:18 |
| sshnaidm | no need to open issue for that | 16:18 |
| gtema | I do not see any other candidate users to add, only some "preconfigured" roots or so | 16:19 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, try on #ansible-galaxy | 16:19 |
| gtema | yeah, when I will have time for that | 16:19 |
| sshnaidm | chouseknecht is the guy | 16:20 |
| gtema | thks | 16:20 |
| sshnaidm | ok, is there something about new fancy ansible modules for openstack you wanna talk more? | 16:20 |
| sshnaidm | 3 | 16:20 |
| sshnaidm | 2 | 16:20 |
| sshnaidm | 1 | 16:20 |
| gtema | nope, I would be offering one more for volume backups | 16:20 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, great | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | I guess sshnaidm is developing ironic stuff? | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | (and we need to sync on that one day) | 16:21 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, right, looking at node cleaning module now | 16:21 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, yep, will ping you when have something | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | I wonder if we need a spec-like or RFE-like process from now on | 16:21 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, and I need a way to test it and better w/o devstack | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | to have some formal discussion about interfaces rather than just landing whatever looks sane | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: w/o devstack - tripleo undercloud? | 16:22 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, even better just ironic standalone | 16:22 |
| dtantsur | bifrost? ;) | 16:22 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, just container with ironic? like ironic-dev I had | 16:22 |
| dtantsur | installing ironic is easy, it's harder when you need it to actually DO anything | 16:23 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, but I couldn't auth with it and current Openstack ansible auth | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | the current openstack ansible auth is broken for at least some cases | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | a VM with bifrost (we have vagrant support) can be more helpful | 16:23 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, yeah, so maybe we can find a way, but if not - tripleo standalone job then :) | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | or that (although it won't allow you to actually do things with VMs) | 16:24 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, well, I can't run vm | 16:24 |
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| sshnaidm | dtantsur, we don't have nested on upstream clouds | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | okay, we can discuss it outside of the meetings | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | I meant your laptop :) | 16:24 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, cool | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: and FWIW I do use devstack on a VM in RDO cloud. it works. | 16:24 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, rdo cloud is different story :) | 16:25 |
| dtantsur | okay, we can discuss ironic stuffs on #openstack-ironic, I won't hold the meeting | 16:25 |
| sshnaidm | ok, let's take it offline then | 16:25 |
| sshnaidm | ok, if nothing else... | 16:25 |
| sshnaidm | #endmeeting | 16:25 |
| dtantsur | not entirely offline unless you want to come to DUS for some Altbier ;) | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug tracker for SDK and OSC is now at https://storyboard.openstack.org" | 16:25 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 23 16:25:51 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2020/api_sig.2020-01-23-16.00.html | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2020/api_sig.2020-01-23-16.00.txt | 16:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2020/api_sig.2020-01-23-16.00.log.html | 16:25 |
| * dtantsur doesn't mind that at all | 16:26 | |
| gtema | oh, Altbier ..... | 16:26 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, Altbier sounds great.. | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | see, we can have a small meetup! | 16:26 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, need to visit your city someday, that's for sure | 16:26 |
| gtema | are you also in Germany? | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | I may even be able to organize a small room in the office here | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | esp. if done in advance | 16:27 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, no, unfortunately | 16:27 |
| gtema | ok | 16:27 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, I think some biergarten will be ok too | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | we even have breweries downtown | 16:28 |
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| sshnaidm | dtantsur, you mean Berlin, right? | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: I'm in Düsseldorf nowadays, hence Altbier | 16:29 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, oh, I see | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | There is local beer in Berlin, I'm not sure it's worth drinking :) | 16:29 |
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| * sshnaidm | tee to_drink list | 16:30 | |
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| dtantsur | sshnaidm: you can do Cologne and Düsseldorf in one shot, essentially, because of how close they are (30 mins by local train) | 16:30 |
| dtantsur | (and Bonn, and a few smaller cities) | 16:31 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, looks like a challenge for a "digital nomad" | 16:31 |
| dtantsur | right | 16:31 |
| sshnaidm | I suppose need to wait till spring with it | 16:33 |
| sshnaidm | I survived even Laplands winter | 16:33 |
| dtantsur | nice! I would totally try that | 16:33 |
| sshnaidm | just -30 | 16:33 |
| dtantsur | not bad, I used to go to the university when it was -36. by foot because trains broke down. | 16:34 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, you need to change nick to "lomonosov" then :D | 16:34 |
| gtema | hehe, sounds familiar, but in the last 10 years not experienced anything lower -10 | 16:34 |
| gtema | this shitty west german winter | 16:36 |
| sshnaidm | gtema, at least you have below 0 | 16:36 |
| gtema | eh, only few nights during winter | 16:37 |
| gtema | the only "white" outside is a fog - everything is white and you can't literaly see your nose | 16:37 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: we have just above 0, not the best weather | 16:40 |
| sshnaidm | around 0 is the worst weather I can imagine, everything is half melted, snow with soil.. | 16:46 |
| sshnaidm | and everything is like ice hockey field in the morning | 16:47 |
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| dtantsur | fortunately, it's quite dry here | 16:48 |
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