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adriant | mordred, it appears that the SDK is busted when setting metadata on objectstorage container creation | 02:17 |
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adriant | none of the header values are being marked as dirty, even though the resource does have them | 02:17 |
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adriant | I have a feeling the issue is because of: https://github.com/openstack/openstacksdk/blob/master/openstack/object_store/v1/container.py#L116 | 02:18 |
adriant | any reason why you are setting "_synchronized=True" ? | 02:18 |
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adriant | when by default, it never is? | 02:18 |
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adriant | when I do: conn.object_store.create_container("test_5", read_ACL="stuff") | 02:20 |
adriant | I'd expect that read_ACL to be set, but it isn't, because while it does get added to resource headers, it isn't dirty | 02:20 |
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adriant | yeah... based on your own docs. this is wrong: https://github.com/openstack/openstacksdk/blob/master/openstack/resource.py#L876-L880 | 02:22 |
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adriant | _synchronized should be false | 02:22 |
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adriant | Was that new function meant to actually be existing? because wouldn't the ID only be present when it already exists? | 02:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Adrian Turjak proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Fix bug in object storage container creation setting metadata https://review.opendev.org/699904 | 02:46 |
openstackgerrit | Adrian Turjak proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for object storage container policies https://review.opendev.org/699905 | 02:46 |
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adriant | mordred: ^ have some more swift fixes for the SDK :P | 02:47 |
adriant | I feel like I find the most bugs in the SDK when dealing with swift because I'm the only person who tries to do swift things with the SDK... | 02:48 |
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adriant | mordred: I added comments on those patches, the tests are failing because there is no way for the resource fields to be marked as: "pull from body, but ignore for update" because name/count etc can't be updated | 03:22 |
adriant | but if they are dirty, the resource code will include them in the body | 03:22 |
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openstackgerrit | wangfaxin proposed openstack/js-openstack-lib master: Update review community page https://review.opendev.org/699919 | 06:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Bram Verschueren proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Fix faulthy state argument choice https://review.opendev.org/699931 | 08:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Bence Romsics proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add command: router add/remove route --route https://review.opendev.org/674325 | 09:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Bence Romsics proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Handle HTTP errors in add/remove router interface calls https://review.opendev.org/687304 | 12:40 |
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elmiko | dtantsur: i'm thinking about cancelling the next 2 api sig office hours, do you have any feelings about the matter? | 13:47 |
stephenfin | mordred: I want to do some work on closing the gap between novaclient and openstackclient next year, and I'm thinking I'll use openstacksdk to do that which has many of its own gaps that need closing | 13:54 |
stephenfin | mordred: Would it be a huge ask for you to provide a sample patch for one of nova's microversioned APIs that I can use as a blueprint? | 13:54 |
stephenfin | You or someone else involved with openstacksdk (I only know of you :)) | 13:55 |
gtema | stephenfin - welcome on board. I'm currently working on "repairing" image support in the OSC | 13:55 |
gtema | and was thinking also to go next for compute | 13:55 |
gtema | so let's work on this together | 13:55 |
stephenfin | Great! | 13:56 |
gtema | I recently made a patch for managing server tags in OSC using SDK, and the next step might be to switch server set/unset operations to use only SDK | 13:56 |
gtema | with that we can slowly switch parts of the compute, which make it easier | 13:57 |
stephenfin | gtema: I assume you're doing these repairs using openstacksdk, or are you using glanceclient? | 13:57 |
gtema | I am replacing glanceclient with SDK | 13:57 |
stephenfin | Cool | 13:57 |
stephenfin | The main issue I saw when I started looking at this was that there weren't an clear patterns around for microversioned APIs | 13:58 |
gtema | I would say it should be considered case by case | 13:58 |
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stephenfin | we use decorators in novaclient but there doesn't seem to be an equivalent pattern for sdk | 13:58 |
gtema | in the image there is nothing like that. In the tagging of servers there is some first brief example for that, but it doesn't really enforce those | 13:59 |
stephenfin | so it sounds like we need to invent one? :) | 13:59 |
stephenfin | that's what I was hoping to drag mordred in for | 13:59 |
gtema | not really invent support, but perhaps invent pattern how to use it properly | 14:00 |
stephenfin | yeah, exactly | 14:00 |
gtema | actually AFAIK in the ironic world this should have been used a lot already | 14:00 |
stephenfin | I mean, I could just copy-paste the patterns from novaclient, but those aren't necessarily going to align with how everyone else is doing it | 14:00 |
stephenfin | I looked at baremetal, yeah. Support seemed pretty barebones still, unfortunately :( | 14:00 |
gtema | in SDK we have option just to specify specific microversion on the request level | 14:01 |
stephenfin | and wasn't consistent | 14:01 |
gtema | so I would say let's look to concrete cases | 14:01 |
stephenfin | Something as simple as migrating this https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/eb98178ea88c77881f7c763b068408f769956eb2/novaclient/v2/servers.py#L217-L234 | 14:02 |
stephenfin | as an examples of an API that accepts different things or otherwise behaves differently depending on the microversion | 14:03 |
stephenfin | I'll give it some more thought though. You have a specific Gerrit tag for your image service rework, gtema? | 14:04 |
gtema | ok, so do you "need" to specify microversion in order to lock the server with the reason? | 14:04 |
gtema | osc-first | 14:04 |
stephenfin | You do, yeah | 14:04 |
gtema | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/650374/ | 14:04 |
stephenfin | If you make the request without the version, nova will default to version 2.1 and the schema check will fail | 14:05 |
gtema | ok | 14:05 |
gtema | for that there is no support in SDK currently completely. So I would suggest to try to implement it there, that if reason is set - include microversion (is supported) | 14:06 |
gtema | I would say this should be transparent to OSC, but a different approach might be used | 14:06 |
stephenfin | That makes sense | 14:06 |
gtema | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/697674/ | 14:07 |
gtema | so currently lot's of nova stuff in OSC requires you to specify microversion already there | 14:07 |
gtema | both has pros and cons | 14:08 |
stephenfin | ah, so version checks are handled from the OSC side rather than the SDK side | 14:08 |
gtema | currently yes | 14:08 |
stephenfin | and the SDK will dumbly pass whatever it gets to nova | 14:08 |
stephenfin | cool | 14:08 |
stephenfin | definitely easier, but not as nice for people using SDK for other things | 14:08 |
gtema | it enforces "user" to know which mv it needs (bad), but ensures early that it is possible at all | 14:09 |
stephenfin | fwiw, novaclient defaults to using the latest version and enforces users know the _older_ mv if they want old behavior | 14:10 |
gtema | lemme browse through dtantsur's code in baremetal and check with him ideas | 14:10 |
stephenfin | the rationale being that people will usually want the new shiny | 14:10 |
stephenfin | but osc hasn't been against that historically and I'm not wading into that battle :) | 14:10 |
stephenfin | gtema: That'd be great | 14:10 |
stephenfin | once I've a blueprint to work against, closing the gaps should be fairly rote | 14:10 |
gtema | they always want new and shiny, but it might be not available, and that's what you need to check in a frendly manner | 14:10 |
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stephenfin | given novaclient is pretty complete | 14:11 |
gtema | great. Our first concept with bringing individual clients/sdk/OSC in sync didn't went well (not widely accepted). But glad you are on boat | 14:11 |
stephenfin | sure am | 14:12 |
stephenfin | and on that note | 14:12 |
* stephenfin -> late lunch | 14:12 | |
gtema | enjoy | 14:12 |
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elmiko | API SIG office hour now under way! | 16:01 |
gtema | under "not existing" way? | 16:02 |
gtema | or pretty-silent way | 16:02 |
elmiko | lol | 16:02 |
elmiko | i gotta at least make the announcement | 16:02 |
gtema | yey | 16:02 |
sshnaidm | is there anybody for meeting? | 16:03 |
gtema | it's just a few of us ... | 16:04 |
sshnaidm | can anybody run the bot? I can't :( | 16:04 |
elmiko | i'm not sure about the /other/ meeting | 16:04 |
sshnaidm | #startmeeting | 16:04 |
openstack | sshnaidm: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 16:04 |
sshnaidm | :) | 16:04 |
elmiko | you need to add api-sig | 16:05 |
gtema | #startmeeting api-sig | 16:05 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 19 16:05:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gtema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:05 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:05 |
elmiko | \o/ | 16:05 |
gtema | cool, I could do this | 16:05 |
sshnaidm | gtema, thanks | 16:05 |
sshnaidm | #chair sshnaidm | 16:05 |
elmiko | i think sshnaidm could as well, just missed the name | 16:05 |
gtema | #chair sshnaidm | 16:05 |
openstack | Current chairs: gtema sshnaidm | 16:05 |
sshnaidm | oh, great | 16:06 |
gtema | #chair elmiko | 16:06 |
openstack | Current chairs: elmiko gtema sshnaidm | 16:06 |
gtema | it's fun to talk to bot | 16:06 |
sshnaidm | tbh, we have a few topics only | 16:06 |
elmiko | haha, it's more activity than we usually get gtema ;) | 16:06 |
gtema | yey, behold | 16:06 |
sshnaidm | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-modules | 16:07 |
sshnaidm | I've sent a mail about movign modules http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-December/011597.html | 16:07 |
sshnaidm | Need to decide finally about the strategy | 16:07 |
sshnaidm | we've got the answer from mordred only | 16:07 |
gtema | well yeah. I thought we actually agreed on the strategy | 16:07 |
gtema | so I found nothing I could add | 16:08 |
gtema | except - yes, there would be changes | 16:08 |
gtema | I mean changes in modules | 16:08 |
sshnaidm | so nobody objected to that mail, I can assume everybody is agreed | 16:08 |
gtema | and yes - we must stay compatible and not break users | 16:08 |
sshnaidm | or just not present :) | 16:08 |
gtema | well, there is no question in the email. There are things we discussed and things to consider | 16:09 |
sshnaidm | so each module will be treated separately, some of them will be deprecated, some not | 16:09 |
gtema | I agree to them | 16:09 |
sshnaidm | for keeping them backward compatible we'll need good testing, just to remember | 16:10 |
gtema | yes, kinda. We do a rename and maintain backward-compatibility through botmeta | 16:10 |
gtema | ironic modules might be replaced (new + deprecation of old) completely | 16:10 |
sshnaidm | and good testing is not what we have currently, also to remember.. | 16:10 |
sshnaidm | gtema, yeah, I think so | 16:11 |
gtema | that is for sure. I am still thinking how we can enable testing in the new repo | 16:11 |
sshnaidm | they are out of sync.. | 16:11 |
sshnaidm | gtema, we have pep and old ci job there in patches | 16:11 |
sshnaidm | later we'll need to work on that more of course | 16:11 |
sshnaidm | I think we agreed also not to change anything in 2.9 | 16:12 |
sshnaidm | for not to sync them manually | 16:12 |
gtema | well, 2.9 is out in the wild anyway, so we can't change anything there | 16:12 |
sshnaidm | gtema, I mean via github PRs to ansible upstream | 16:12 |
sshnaidm | or via backports | 16:13 |
gtema | yes | 16:13 |
sshnaidm | next: Should we move modules with keeping history? | 16:13 |
gtema | there is anyway currently nobody watching for PRs (while I see there are discussions from the PR-contributors) | 16:13 |
sshnaidm | gtema, well, I submitted a few patches in last months | 16:14 |
gtema | I, personally, see no need in that, but also not object in keeping history | 16:14 |
gtema | I know | 16:14 |
sshnaidm | I'd like to keep the history tbh is possible | 16:14 |
sshnaidm | s/is/if/ | 16:14 |
sshnaidm | it helps to understand the logic of changes | 16:14 |
gtema | yeah, this is nice "if" | 16:14 |
gtema | but anyway for history you can always refer to Ansible itself | 16:15 |
sshnaidm | gtema, right | 16:15 |
sshnaidm | - Should we move now and not to wait till Jan? | 16:15 |
sshnaidm | I think it's obvious we need to wait | 16:15 |
gtema | hmm, | 16:16 |
gtema | from what I see there are currently nobody except us here now | 16:16 |
sshnaidm | we will need gundalow that is in PTO to make changes in Ansible itself, botmeta etc | 16:16 |
gtema | and we "agreed" to do this beginning of Jan | 16:16 |
sshnaidm | yeah | 16:16 |
gtema | let's better wait for Jan. I don't want to touch this now and instead enjoy calm time at work | 16:17 |
sshnaidm | agree | 16:17 |
sshnaidm | - python 2-3 compatibility | 16:17 |
gtema | this is nice | 16:17 |
sshnaidm | I think pabelanger wrote about it: technically should follow ansible engine, which is p26 / py27 / py35 / py36 / py37 / py38 | 16:17 |
gtema | we just "dropped" py2 tests in sdk | 16:18 |
sshnaidm | or maybe not pabelanger.. people, put your names please in etherpad notes! | 16:18 |
gtema | but in ansible modules themselves I don't think we have some weird stuff | 16:18 |
sshnaidm | gtema, that's interesting, if Ansible runs on 2.7 and openstacksdk supports 3 only | 16:19 |
gtema | so actually technically saying we can't guarantee anymore, that any new SDK release will support py2 | 16:19 |
gtema | ansible runs on py3 as well | 16:19 |
sshnaidm | gtema, I take the worst case when somebody run it on 2.7 host | 16:19 |
gtema | and sdk<=0.39.0 guarantee py2 compat | 16:19 |
gtema | it will work now | 16:20 |
sshnaidm | gtema, we won't freeze sdk reqs I think | 16:20 |
gtema | but not guaranteed to be working with SDK=0.40.0 | 16:20 |
gtema | no, we only have a dep in modules themselves | 16:20 |
sshnaidm | so I think we may not to support 2.7 hosts.. | 16:21 |
gtema | as min_version | 16:21 |
gtema | with just 12 days left until EOL - we need to push people. And we still do this gently | 16:21 |
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gtema | we havn't started removing support for py2, we just stopped verifying it | 16:22 |
gtema | and I know myself how it is - myself having still platforms with py2 only | 16:22 |
gtema | so we will definitely not start in the near future in SDK to drop py2 compat things | 16:23 |
sshnaidm | gtema, well, yeah, and ansible claims for 2.6 support btw | 16:23 |
sshnaidm | it will be interesting | 16:23 |
gtema | I'm tired of those crappy things. Let's just leave it as it is and enjoy watching what will happen | 16:24 |
sshnaidm | gtema, :D | 16:24 |
sshnaidm | I'll try to wrap up | 16:24 |
sshnaidm | and get some ansible folks opinions maybe, would be great to get rid off 2.7 of course | 16:24 |
sshnaidm | any other topics to discuss? | 16:25 |
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gtema | actually not for me. I am "waiting" for the release/test jobs | 16:26 |
sshnaidm | ok, great | 16:26 |
gtema | I think this should be addressed next | 16:26 |
sshnaidm | yeah, | 16:26 |
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sshnaidm | but this is in the new year | 16:26 |
sshnaidm | thanks all! | 16:27 |
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gtema | wlcm | 16:27 |
sshnaidm | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 19 16:27:21 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2019/api_sig.2019-12-19-16.05.html | 16:27 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2019/api_sig.2019-12-19-16.05.txt | 16:27 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2019/api_sig.2019-12-19-16.05.log.html | 16:27 |
gtema | elmiko, to your previous question of cancelling meeting next week - I think it realy makes sense | 16:27 |
gtema | me and dtantsur are definitely having holidays, I think you guys as well | 16:28 |
elmiko | yes | 16:32 |
elmiko | i was just thinking about sending an email to let the community know. we don't get many visitors, but just in case. | 16:33 |
gtema | agree | 16:33 |
elmiko | also, we should probably re-evaluate whether we should even host an office hour. i don't think we've had any serious issues in months | 16:33 |
elmiko | at this point we could handle all questions via the mailing list, and if something like this current discussion (ansible) comes up, we can always schedule something. | 16:33 |
elmiko | but, i'll leave that debate for 2020 ;) | 16:34 |
gtema | you are right | 16:34 |
gtema | sure | 16:34 |
elmiko | if don't see you online, have a nice holiday and joyous new year gtema =) | 16:36 |
gtema | thanks elmiko, you too a very nice holidays | 16:37 |
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Shrews | gtema: your recent comment on https://review.opendev.org/687304 confuses me | 17:01 |
Shrews | PS4 used assertRaises() but you -1'd that because the exception message was not checked, which requires using testtools.ExpectedException. I don't understand your recommendation to go back to assertRaises() | 17:02 |
gtema | if we don't need to check the message content itself why not to have self.assertRaises(SDKException, sot.remove_interface, sess, **body) | 17:02 |
gtema | it is shorter and doesn'T require additional import | 17:02 |
Shrews | yes, but see your previous -1 :) | 17:02 |
gtema | aaaah, it was so long ago | 17:02 |
gtema | if we do not check the message (what would be nice) - we can have shorter form. | 17:03 |
gtema | but even if we do this - there is no need for import testtools | 17:03 |
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Shrews | i think we all agree on that, but the other form is needed to satisfy your request to check the message | 17:03 |
gtema | beah | 17:04 |
gtema | this is anyway not done | 17:04 |
Shrews | yes it is | 17:04 |
Shrews | the 'msg' variable is the expected message | 17:04 |
Shrews | ExpectedException(type, msg) | 17:04 |
gtema | ah, ok | 17:04 |
gtema | sorry, overseen it - long day | 17:05 |
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Shrews | no worries :) | 17:09 |
gtema | ok, hacking "project-cleanup" into SDK, so brain is in a quite weird state | 17:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Handle HTTP errors in add/remove router interface calls https://review.opendev.org/687304 | 18:20 |
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gundalow | sshnaidm If you ask in #ansible-devel there should be others that can help. | 18:59 |
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sshnaidm | gundalow, thanks, I think we're good, no rush | 18:59 |
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gundalow | Ok | 19:02 |
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