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adriantmordred, it appears that the SDK is busted when setting metadata on objectstorage container creation02:17
adriantnone of the header values are being marked as dirty, even though the resource does have them02:17
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adriantI have a feeling the issue is because of: https://github.com/openstack/openstacksdk/blob/master/openstack/object_store/v1/container.py#L11602:18
adriantany reason why you are setting "_synchronized=True" ?02:18
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adriantwhen by default, it never is?02:18
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adriantwhen I do: conn.object_store.create_container("test_5", read_ACL="stuff")02:20
adriantI'd expect that read_ACL to be set, but it isn't, because while it does get added to resource headers, it isn't dirty02:20
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adriantyeah... based on your own docs. this is wrong: https://github.com/openstack/openstacksdk/blob/master/openstack/resource.py#L876-L88002:22
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adriant_synchronized should be false02:22
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adriantWas that new function meant to actually be existing? because wouldn't the ID only be present when it already exists?02:24
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openstackgerritAdrian Turjak proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Fix bug in object storage container creation setting metadata  https://review.opendev.org/69990402:46
openstackgerritAdrian Turjak proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for object storage container policies  https://review.opendev.org/69990502:46
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adriantmordred: ^ have some more swift fixes for the SDK :P02:47
adriantI feel like I find the most bugs in the SDK when dealing with swift because I'm the only person who tries to do swift things with the SDK...02:48
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adriantmordred: I added comments on those patches, the tests are failing because there is no way for the resource fields to be marked as: "pull from body, but ignore for update" because name/count etc can't be updated03:22
adriantbut if they are dirty, the resource code will include them in the body03:22
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openstackgerritwangfaxin proposed openstack/js-openstack-lib master: Update review community page  https://review.opendev.org/69991906:45
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openstackgerritBram Verschueren proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Fix faulthy state argument choice  https://review.opendev.org/69993108:52
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openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add command: router add/remove route --route  https://review.opendev.org/67432509:59
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openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Handle HTTP errors in add/remove router interface calls  https://review.opendev.org/68730412:40
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elmikodtantsur: i'm thinking about cancelling the next 2 api sig office hours, do you have any feelings about the matter?13:47
stephenfinmordred: I want to do some work on closing the gap between novaclient and openstackclient next year, and I'm thinking I'll use openstacksdk to do that which has many of its own gaps that need closing13:54
stephenfinmordred:  Would it be a huge ask for you to provide a sample patch for one of nova's microversioned APIs that I can use as a blueprint?13:54
stephenfinYou or someone else involved with openstacksdk (I only know of you :))13:55
gtemastephenfin - welcome on board. I'm currently working on "repairing" image support in the OSC13:55
gtemaand was thinking also to go next for compute13:55
gtemaso let's work on this together13:55
stephenfinGreat!13:56
gtemaI recently made a patch for managing server tags in OSC using SDK, and the next step might be to switch server set/unset operations to use only SDK13:56
gtemawith that we can slowly switch parts of the compute, which make it easier13:57
stephenfingtema: I assume you're doing these repairs using openstacksdk, or are you using glanceclient?13:57
gtemaI am replacing glanceclient with SDK13:57
stephenfinCool13:57
stephenfinThe main issue I saw when I started looking at this was that there weren't an clear patterns around for microversioned APIs13:58
gtemaI would say it should be considered case by case13:58
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stephenfinwe use decorators in novaclient but there doesn't seem to be an equivalent pattern for sdk13:58
gtemain the image there is nothing like that. In the tagging of servers there is some first brief example for that, but it doesn't really enforce those13:59
stephenfinso it sounds like we need to invent one? :)13:59
stephenfinthat's what I was hoping to drag mordred in for13:59
gtemanot really invent support, but perhaps invent pattern how to use it properly14:00
stephenfinyeah, exactly14:00
gtemaactually AFAIK in the ironic world this should have been used a lot already14:00
stephenfinI mean, I could just copy-paste the patterns from novaclient, but those aren't necessarily going to align with how everyone else is doing it14:00
stephenfinI looked at baremetal, yeah. Support seemed pretty barebones still, unfortunately :(14:00
gtemain SDK we have option just to specify specific microversion on the request level14:01
stephenfinand wasn't consistent14:01
gtemaso I would say let's look to concrete cases14:01
stephenfinSomething as simple as migrating this https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/eb98178ea88c77881f7c763b068408f769956eb2/novaclient/v2/servers.py#L217-L23414:02
stephenfinas an examples of an API that accepts different things or otherwise behaves differently depending on the microversion14:03
stephenfinI'll give it some more thought though. You have a specific Gerrit tag for your image service rework, gtema?14:04
gtemaok, so do you "need" to specify microversion in order to lock the server with the reason?14:04
gtemaosc-first14:04
stephenfinYou do, yeah14:04
gtemahttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/650374/14:04
stephenfinIf you make the request without the version, nova will default to version 2.1 and the schema check will fail14:05
gtemaok14:05
gtemafor that there is no support in SDK currently completely. So I would suggest to try to implement it there, that if reason is set - include microversion (is supported)14:06
gtemaI would say this should be transparent to OSC, but a different approach might be used14:06
stephenfinThat makes sense14:06
gtemahttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/697674/14:07
gtemaso currently lot's of nova stuff in OSC requires you to specify microversion already there14:07
gtemaboth has pros and cons14:08
stephenfinah, so version checks are handled from the OSC side rather than the SDK side14:08
gtemacurrently yes14:08
stephenfinand the SDK will dumbly pass whatever it gets to nova14:08
stephenfincool14:08
stephenfindefinitely easier, but not as nice for people using SDK for other things14:08
gtemait enforces "user" to know which mv it needs (bad), but ensures early that it is possible at all14:09
stephenfinfwiw, novaclient defaults to using the latest version and enforces users know the _older_ mv if they want old behavior14:10
gtemalemme browse through dtantsur's code in baremetal and check with him ideas14:10
stephenfinthe rationale being that people will usually want the new shiny14:10
stephenfinbut osc hasn't been against that historically and I'm not wading into that battle :)14:10
stephenfingtema: That'd be great14:10
stephenfinonce I've a blueprint to work against, closing the gaps should be fairly rote14:10
gtemathey always want new and shiny, but it might be not available, and that's what you need to check in a frendly manner14:10
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stephenfingiven novaclient is pretty complete14:11
gtemagreat. Our first concept with bringing individual clients/sdk/OSC in sync didn't went well (not widely accepted). But glad you are on boat14:11
stephenfinsure am14:12
stephenfinand on that note14:12
* stephenfin -> late lunch14:12
gtemaenjoy14:12
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elmikoAPI SIG office hour now under way!16:01
gtemaunder "not existing" way?16:02
gtemaor pretty-silent way16:02
elmikolol16:02
elmikoi gotta at least make the announcement16:02
gtemayey16:02
sshnaidmis there anybody for meeting?16:03
gtemait's just a few of us ...16:04
sshnaidmcan anybody run the bot? I can't :(16:04
elmikoi'm not sure about the /other/ meeting16:04
sshnaidm#startmeeting16:04
openstacksshnaidm: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'16:04
sshnaidm:)16:04
elmikoyou need to add api-sig16:05
gtema#startmeeting api-sig16:05
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 19 16:05:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gtema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:05
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'api_sig'16:05
elmiko\o/16:05
gtemacool, I could do this16:05
sshnaidmgtema, thanks16:05
sshnaidm#chair sshnaidm16:05
elmikoi think sshnaidm could as well, just missed the name16:05
gtema#chair sshnaidm16:05
openstackCurrent chairs: gtema sshnaidm16:05
sshnaidmoh, great16:06
gtema#chair elmiko16:06
openstackCurrent chairs: elmiko gtema sshnaidm16:06
gtemait's fun to talk to bot16:06
sshnaidmtbh, we have a few topics only16:06
elmikohaha, it's more activity than we usually get gtema ;)16:06
gtemayey, behold16:06
sshnaidm#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-modules16:07
sshnaidmI've sent a mail about movign modules http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-December/011597.html16:07
sshnaidm    Need to decide finally about the strategy16:07
sshnaidmwe've got the answer from mordred only16:07
gtemawell yeah. I thought we actually agreed on the strategy16:07
gtemaso I found nothing I could add16:08
gtemaexcept - yes, there would be changes16:08
gtemaI mean changes in modules16:08
sshnaidmso nobody objected to that mail, I can assume everybody is agreed16:08
gtemaand yes - we must stay compatible and not break users16:08
sshnaidmor just not present :)16:08
gtemawell, there is no question in the email. There are things we discussed and things to consider16:09
sshnaidmso each module will be treated separately, some of them will be deprecated, some not16:09
gtemaI agree to them16:09
sshnaidmfor keeping them backward compatible we'll need good testing, just to remember16:10
gtemayes, kinda. We do a rename and maintain backward-compatibility through botmeta16:10
gtemaironic modules might be replaced (new + deprecation of old) completely16:10
sshnaidmand good testing is not what we have currently, also to remember..16:10
sshnaidmgtema, yeah, I think so16:11
gtemathat is for sure. I am still thinking how we can enable testing in the new repo16:11
sshnaidmthey are out of sync..16:11
sshnaidmgtema, we have pep and old ci job there in patches16:11
sshnaidmlater we'll need to work on that more of course16:11
sshnaidmI think we agreed also not to change anything in 2.916:12
sshnaidmfor not to sync them manually16:12
gtemawell, 2.9 is out in the wild anyway, so we can't change anything there16:12
sshnaidmgtema, I mean via github PRs to ansible upstream16:12
sshnaidmor via backports16:13
gtemayes16:13
sshnaidmnext: Should we move modules with keeping history?16:13
gtemathere is anyway currently nobody watching for PRs (while I see there are discussions from the PR-contributors)16:13
sshnaidmgtema, well, I submitted a few patches in last months16:14
gtemaI, personally, see no need in that, but also not object in keeping history16:14
gtemaI know16:14
sshnaidmI'd like to keep the history tbh is possible16:14
sshnaidms/is/if/16:14
sshnaidmit helps to understand the logic of changes16:14
gtemayeah, this is nice "if"16:14
gtemabut anyway for history you can always refer to Ansible itself16:15
sshnaidmgtema, right16:15
sshnaidm- Should we move now and not to wait till Jan?16:15
sshnaidmI think it's obvious we need to wait16:15
gtemahmm,16:16
gtemafrom what I see there are currently nobody except us here now16:16
sshnaidmwe will need gundalow that is in PTO to make changes in Ansible itself, botmeta etc16:16
gtemaand we "agreed" to do this beginning of Jan16:16
sshnaidmyeah16:16
gtemalet's better wait for Jan. I don't want to touch this now and instead enjoy calm time at work16:17
sshnaidmagree16:17
sshnaidm- python 2-3 compatibility16:17
gtemathis is nice16:17
sshnaidmI think pabelanger wrote about it: technically should follow ansible engine, which is p26 / py27 / py35 / py36 / py37 / py3816:17
gtemawe just "dropped" py2 tests in sdk16:18
sshnaidmor maybe not pabelanger.. people, put your names please in etherpad notes!16:18
gtemabut in ansible modules themselves I don't think we have some weird stuff16:18
sshnaidmgtema, that's interesting, if Ansible runs on 2.7 and openstacksdk supports 3 only16:19
gtemaso actually technically saying we can't guarantee anymore, that any new SDK release will support py216:19
gtemaansible runs on py3 as well16:19
sshnaidmgtema, I take the worst case when somebody run it on 2.7 host16:19
gtemaand sdk<=0.39.0 guarantee py2 compat16:19
gtemait will work now16:20
sshnaidmgtema, we won't freeze sdk reqs I think16:20
gtemabut not guaranteed to be working with SDK=0.40.016:20
gtemano, we only have a dep in modules themselves16:20
sshnaidmso I think we may not to support 2.7 hosts..16:21
gtemaas min_version16:21
gtemawith just 12 days left until EOL - we need to push people. And we still do this gently16:21
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gtemawe havn't started removing support for py2, we just stopped verifying it16:22
gtemaand I know myself how it is - myself having still platforms with py2 only16:22
gtemaso we will definitely not start in the near future in SDK to drop py2 compat things16:23
sshnaidmgtema, well, yeah, and ansible claims for 2.6 support btw16:23
sshnaidmit will be interesting16:23
gtemaI'm tired of those crappy things. Let's just leave it as it is and enjoy watching what will happen16:24
sshnaidmgtema, :D16:24
sshnaidmI'll try to wrap up16:24
sshnaidmand get some ansible folks opinions maybe, would be great to get rid off 2.7 of course16:24
sshnaidmany other topics to discuss?16:25
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gtemaactually not for me. I am "waiting" for the release/test jobs16:26
sshnaidmok, great16:26
gtemaI think this should be addressed next16:26
sshnaidmyeah,16:26
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sshnaidmbut this is in the new year16:26
sshnaidmthanks all!16:27
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gtemawlcm16:27
sshnaidm#endmeeting16:27
*** openstack changes topic to "Bug tracker for SDK and OSC is now at https://storyboard.openstack.org"16:27
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gtemaelmiko, to your previous question of cancelling meeting next week - I think it realy makes sense16:27
gtemame and dtantsur are definitely having holidays, I think you guys as well16:28
elmikoyes16:32
elmikoi was just thinking about sending an email to let the community know. we don't get many visitors, but just in case.16:33
gtemaagree16:33
elmikoalso, we should probably re-evaluate whether we should even host an office hour. i don't think we've had any serious issues in months16:33
elmikoat this point we could handle all questions via the mailing list, and if something like this current discussion (ansible) comes up, we can always schedule something.16:33
elmikobut, i'll leave that debate for 2020 ;)16:34
gtemayou are right16:34
gtemasure16:34
elmikoif don't see you online, have a nice holiday and joyous new year gtema =)16:36
gtemathanks elmiko, you too a very nice holidays16:37
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Shrewsgtema: your recent comment on https://review.opendev.org/687304 confuses me17:01
ShrewsPS4 used assertRaises() but you -1'd that because the exception message was not checked, which requires using testtools.ExpectedException. I don't understand your recommendation to go back to assertRaises()17:02
gtemaif we don't need to check the message content itself why not to have self.assertRaises(SDKException, sot.remove_interface, sess, **body)17:02
gtemait is shorter and doesn'T require additional import17:02
Shrewsyes, but see your previous -1  :)17:02
gtemaaaaah, it was so long ago17:02
gtemaif we do not check the message (what would be nice) - we can have shorter form.17:03
gtemabut even if we do this - there is no need for import testtools17:03
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Shrewsi think we all agree on that, but the other form is needed to satisfy your request to check the message17:03
gtemabeah17:04
gtemathis is anyway not done17:04
Shrewsyes it is17:04
Shrewsthe 'msg' variable is the expected message17:04
ShrewsExpectedException(type, msg)17:04
gtemaah, ok17:04
gtemasorry, overseen it - long day17:05
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Shrewsno worries  :)17:09
gtemaok, hacking "project-cleanup" into SDK, so brain is in a quite weird state17:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstacksdk master: Handle HTTP errors in add/remove router interface calls  https://review.opendev.org/68730418:20
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gundalowsshnaidm If you ask in #ansible-devel there should be others that can help.18:59
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sshnaidmgundalow, thanks, I think we're good, no rush18:59
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gundalowOk19:02
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