Friday, 2018-12-07

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openstackgerritYuval Shalev proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add host aggregate missing functions  https://review.openstack.org/62169509:51
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openstackgerritmelissaml proposed openstack/cliff master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss  https://review.openstack.org/62348213:11
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openstackgerritGergely Csatari proposed openstack/os-api-ref master: readthedocs.io support  https://review.openstack.org/62348513:22
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cdentelmiko: I think sdk and api sig is good match. we don't want api to be just about api good  behavior, it should be about using apis in general16:06
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cdentotherwise sigs are too special and will fade away (like api-sig pretty much did)16:06
mordred++16:09
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dtantsurthis16:13
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Fix requesting specific fields from ironic  https://review.openstack.org/62305917:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstacksdk master: Deal with double-normalization of host_id  https://review.openstack.org/62330817:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstacksdk master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss  https://review.openstack.org/62294717:27
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elmikocdent: i agree. additionally, i think the noise and process around creating another sig just adds confusion. i'm happy to include the sdk in the api sig's mission, i just wanted to add some context around what i think we need to do to make it a success.18:14
elmikoedleafe dtantsur|afk ^^18:14
cdent18:14
elmikomy main reasoning for even bringing up the working group thing, was just around the initial effort that Melvin is proposing. it seemed really well scoped.18:15
edleafeelmiko: we discussed this at the last few PTGs. The SDK work is a good fit for our SIG.18:15
elmikono disagreement from me18:16
cdentelmiko: the reason I brought it up was because it was vaguely sounding the thread like somebody (not sure if it was you or not) was thinking a separate sig was the way to go. I admit to not reading as closely as I should have18:16
elmikocdent: yeah, i think second sig was definitely amongst the ideas tossed out there18:17
elmikoi don't really have a _strong_ opinion on it, but we did talk about this a few PTGs ago (and maybe more that i missed) and it still makes sense to me.18:18
edleafeYeah, I think Melvin thought that would be the easiest approach18:18
elmikoi think my main concern is getting more bodies to step up and participate18:18
elmikodtantsur|afk's work aside, we need someone to represent the sdk side of this18:19
edleafeIf it's gonna work, it's gonna need the SDK people to do the bulk of the organizing and work. We can help with our experience, but it will need to be new blood.18:19
cdentCan't we just get dtantsur|afk to do everything, since he's afk?18:19
edleafeDone! dtantsur|afk now owns the responsibility for All The Things18:20
elmikoedleafe: yeah, i remember him approaching us about adding more sdk/operator focused stuff to our agenda, and i thought we were all fine with it back then18:20
elmikocdent: ++18:20
elmikoSIG All-The-Things?18:20
elmikoedleafe: ++ agreed about the workload18:20
elmikoi guess that's what i wanted to capture in my response to Thierry18:20
edleafeI was going to reply, but thought it would be just "what elmiko said"18:21
elmikoedleafe: =)18:21
* cdent experiences relief18:23
elmikocdent: i hope it didn't sound like i was advocating the other way. it sounds like we have a good consensus though18:28
cdentsomebody may wish to clarify? not sure, I'm not caught up on the thread18:28
elmikogood idea, i'll take another look to see if i was ambiguous and could potentially make it clearer18:29
elmikoor maybe just link to this talk in chat18:29
cdentbut we have our professional reputations to consider!!18:32
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/api-sig master: Add idempotent DELETE guidance  https://review.openstack.org/61661018:34
edleafeelmiko: cdent: ^^ Cleaned up the wording. Let me know if you think it's better18:35
elmikoedleafe: ack18:36
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