Wednesday, 2017-11-22

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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add support to clear DHCP options in port  https://review.openstack.org/47571406:02
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openstackgerritVitalii Kulanov proposed openstack/cliff master: Add ability to sort data by columns for list commands  https://review.openstack.org/52135107:11
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add support to clear DHCP options in port  https://review.openstack.org/47571410:07
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dhellmanndtroyer : does osc load any settings other than clouds.yaml on startup?15:44
dtroyerdhellmann: no15:47
dhellmannok. I'm thinking about how to implement command aliases15:47
dhellmanncurrent idea is an "alias" command and then to just read a bunch of commands from a ~/.apprc file on startup in interactive mode15:48
dtroyerjust interactive?15:51
dhellmannyeah, I was undecided on that15:54
dhellmannI guess it could load them all the time15:54
dhellmannthat would be simpler to implement anyway15:54
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dhellmanndtroyer : do you think we need to handle multi-word alias names? like 'alias "foo bar" "blah --bletch"'? or is it enough to support 1-word aliases?16:03
dhellmann1-word items are going to be easier to expand16:03
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dtroyerone of the requested reasons for the aliases was to emulate old commands, ie "backup create" is now "volume backup create" and the alias would be used for compat16:09
dhellmannah16:09
dhellmannis that something we would expect the user to set, then?16:10
dtroyerthat kind, probably not.  so maybe we have two classes of aliases then16:10
dtroyerone for compat, and one more shell/git-style?16:10
dtroyeryeah, they are two different use cases16:11
dhellmannI wonder how hard it would be to build on top of http://xon.sh16:11
dtroyerok, I've talked myself out of calling the multi-word thing 'alias'16:11
dhellmannI don't want to re-build xonsh for sure16:12
dhellmannif what we really need is a way to have those old commands optionally registered, that's different from an alias16:12
dhellmannat least what I think of as a user-defined alias16:13
dtroyerright, that is what I had to thing through (again)16:13
dhellmannis there any reason not to have those old names available all the time? I guess we don't want them to show up in help, so we need to know they are dupes16:14
cdentdtantsur: did you get/see my email about api-wg invitation? Often my mail falls into spam folders.16:14
dtantsurcdent: hey, was it sent to me personally? with what subject?16:15
dtroyerWe basically do it by hand now, using help.SUPPRESS in the parser declarations16:15
dhellmannwhat if the command manager had a method to register a legacy command mapped to the new name?16:16
cdentdtantsur: yes, you personally, your redhat address, subject “api-wg core?” :)16:16
dhellmanndtroyer : I'll give that some more thought; I have to go pick up a turkey from the smokehouse16:17
dtroyerwe often have more than just the commands change, options change too16:17
dtroyerI think this pat of it is probably the lesser important of the two16:17
dtroyerdhellmann: and thanks for the pointer to xon.sh, now I'll be distracted for the rest of the day!16:18
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add floating IP qos_policy actions  https://review.openstack.org/51784516:35
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dhellmanndtroyer : there's a video of a presentation about xonsh at pycon from a year or two ago. very cool project.19:20
dhellmannhaving the options change seems like a different level of aliasing19:21
dhellmannthat feels like something that's going to have to be handled on a command-by-command basis19:21
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Make -tips job non-voting  https://review.openstack.org/52236719:35
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/cliff master: Move doc requirements to doc/requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/52236919:40
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/cliff master: DNM testing docs and releasenotes jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52237019:40
dhellmanndtroyer : using SUPPRESS to hide deprecated options seems like the right approach. Registering deprecated commands as multi-word mappings between the old and new version would be easy enough to add.19:50
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/cliff master: add support for legacy command name translation  https://review.openstack.org/52238020:11
dhellmanndtroyer : ^^20:11
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openstackgerritVitalii Kulanov proposed openstack/cliff master: Add ability to sort data by columns for list commands  https://review.openstack.org/52135121:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/osc-lib master: Make -tips job non-voting  https://review.openstack.org/52236723:30
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