Wednesday, 2017-09-27

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Fix 'project purge' deletes ALL images problem  https://review.openstack.org/50602405:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Support icmp-type and icmp-code to be set as zero  https://review.openstack.org/50589005:49
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sdaguecdent (et al): I started working on the microversion slides for API Strat (which somehow need to setup the problem to be solved with microversions and the solution and take aways in 20 minutes...)11:30
sdagueLibreoffice starting point thus far is here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/pggmwjcc167y16h/REST_API_Microversions.odp?dl=0 (I can convert to other format if folks need it)11:30
sdaguewould be curious on feedback11:30
cdentcool, will have a look today11:30
cdentsdague: do you have a portable black hole your using to compress multiple years of discussion into 20 minutes?11:31
sdagueso, I think my goals of the talk are to make sure people understand the "going backwards in time" as you cross different clouds11:32
cdentthat’s a good idea11:35
sdagueThat's 10 minutes, 5 minutes for what the solution we came up with looks like, and 5 minutes for dropping other implications just as facts with no supporting info with a "please feel free to chat with me later"11:35
sdaguethe bulk of these slides are trying to walk people through that back in time problem11:36
cdentI think that’s the correct balance11:40
cdentI haven’t looked yet but I assume somewhere in there you mention something like “most people think of apis as having one deployer or deployment, this is not that"11:40
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ldlin the compute's _proxy.py, there is no method to create snapshot for server, alright?12:37
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briancurtinplease look at the docs12:38
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sdaguecdent: look at the slides, see if you think I say that clear enough :)13:01
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cdentsdague: will do, my progress on my morning list is going slower than desired…13:02
cdentespecially seeing as I’m well into the afternoon13:02
dhellmanndtroyer: I'm getting a bunch of complaints about the new help-showing-package-names thing breaking people. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507679/ should fix it, can you put that high on your review list so we can get it out?13:12
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cdentsdague: some quick notes, as a I read15:27
cdentsdague: s/lucking/lucky/15:27
cdentinstead of A, B, C use Cloud A, Cloud B, Cloud C, or s/Cloud/API/ otherwise the meaning disappears in the encoding15:28
sdagueyeh, good point, I keep kind of transforming data up. Maybe I should make some fake logos for them or something to keep them visually distinct15:30
cdentsdague: page 10 isn’t nailing the idea of many deployers and deployments, it can easily be interpreted as mean “you should devops” (as in devs should deploy, which is not at all what you mean)15:30
cdentmight be clearer by distinguishing 3 classes of teams: dev, deployer, users. Or at least mention that deployers are N>small15:31
cdentslide 12++15:32
sdagueyeh, I was thinking about that15:32
dtroyerdhellmann: +W… do we need a .1 release for that?15:33
cdentpages 6 and 7 are workable as long as you are talking quite a bit. in isolation it’s very blinkmaking, but imagining what you might say and it works15:33
cdentgiven your limited amount of time I reckon you’ll want to introduce the problem hard and solid, and then say “this is what we did about it and it works” without claiming any perfection or anything15:34
sdaguethe whole "well in devops the developers should be the operators" with a ... so no one uses open source in anything devops right?15:34
cdentspage 8 is where I experience my biggest WAT, because of the encoding issues already mentioned15:34
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cdentheh15:35
sdagueyeh, honestly slide 8 probably can just be deleted and go straight to 915:36
cdentI’d copy the drink image to the last slide as a reminder15:38
cdentsdague: do you have any concerns about using the “REST” instead of “HTTP”?15:39
sdaguenot exceptionally15:39
cdentI would think that’s one of the environments where you’d find some people who might be triggered15:40
sdaguemaybe, I don't know. That's what the talk's title is though15:40
cdent:)15:40
cdentsdague: if you make a new version, I’m happy to browse again later15:43
sdaguecdent: sure, I think with the dropbox link it will always be the latest copy as I save, I'll keep on doing edits15:44
cdentcool, I think it will prove a useful thing. I’m disappointed I won’t be there to hear the comments and questions15:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cliff master: handle more varied top_level.txt files in distributions  https://review.openstack.org/50767917:03
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Support creating unaddress neutron port  https://review.openstack.org/50481718:40
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Support creating unaddress neutron port  https://review.openstack.org/50481720:48
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