Thursday, 2017-04-13

mordredjamielennox: ah- I see what you mean - so I'll try to make this extra complex ...00:00
mordredbut first - I mostly have stopped caring about python-*client - but let's keep them for now because they make the discussion more interesting (harder)00:01
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mordredso - for the shade case, we have nodepool uses shade which uses os-client-config which uses keystoneauth which uses requests (at least that's how I think of it in my head)00:02
mordredthen for novaclient, it would be nodepool -> shade -> os-client-config -> novaclient -> keystoneauth ... or is it?00:04
mordredmaybe for the novaclient/glanceclient path the occ part is not meaningful00:04
jamielennoxsounds right00:04
mordredin fact, I wonder if occ is important in the user agent at all?00:04
jamielennoxi think this is what dtroyer came to as well, telling people osc-lib version wasn't that important - but it's there if you want it00:05
mordredit's setting up objects, but it's not really involved (atm) in making actual calls00:05
mordrednod00:05
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mordredjamielennox: so maybe focusing on interior ordering isn't important - nodepool "the app" being first in the list seems important, and ksa/requests being at the end seems right00:09
mordredother than that, I can make all sorts of arguments about why one sequence makes more sense than the other00:09
mordredbut I'm not sure any of them actually make sense :)00:09
jamielennoxmordred: yea, it took us a while to get to the layout we have because of these sorts of things - you can get really picky about it00:09
mordred++00:10
jamielennoxrealistically the best thing to do would be to have the python clients actually insert their name into the sequence00:10
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mordredyah. although hopefully 'soon' I won't be using them for anything anymore and that can be someone else's problem00:10
mordredjamielennox: for the other patch - the main thing was that without adding client_name to session and only on adater, we lose it when ksa makes discovery calls on behalf of the user00:12
mordredso I figured just setting it on session would be eaiser than plumbing client_name to wherever it needed to be for discovery calls00:12
mordredbut again, it's possible I'm making it too difficult :)00:12
jamielennoxoh, because discovery is internal to ksa?00:12
jamielennoxi mean we can plumb it through - but maybe it doesn't matter00:13
mordredyah - and ksa doens't use an adapter for it00:13
jamielennoxthings done internal to ksa don't care what invoked the request00:13
jamielennoxi mean it would be useful to know what client started the call00:13
jamielennoxmordred: i don't mean to argue this too much, but it's two new params in an already complicated list for fairly small benefit00:14
mordredright - but when I think of user-agents I think of ops looking at logs to figure out why a particuar traffic pattern came in - and if it was shade that asked ksa for something, I feel like I'd be missing part of the story?00:14
mordred_but_.... I don't have an actual use case00:14
mordredjamielennox: totally understand - I appreciate you curating the library well :)00:15
jamielennoxmordred: is shade creating the session?00:15
jamielennoxoh right, this is why shade is out of order with the python-*client in additional00:16
mordredyah00:16
mordredactually - shade does not create the session - occ creates the session for it00:16
mordredin general, it 'should' be occ creating session, adapater and/or python-client - but shade directly instantiates Adapter because it wraps it in a wrapper class00:18
mordredand I gave up on giving occ a "set_adapter_factory" feature because that was just too much :)00:19
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jamielennoxso i mean shade could add itself to additional at that point00:23
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mordredjamielennox: hrm. maybe that's not a bad idea00:25
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openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Make block-device-mapping more stable and clear  https://review.openstack.org/43814104:08
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openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/cliff master: Add smart help formatter for command parser  https://review.openstack.org/45461306:19
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Add MultiKeyValueCommaAction to osc-lib  https://review.openstack.org/42551507:39
reedipRuiChen : Done ^^07:39
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul was restarted due to an unrecoverable disconnect from gerrit. If your change is missing a CI result and isn't listed in the pipelines on http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ , please recheck08:52
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add extra dhcp option to 'port create/set/unset'  https://review.openstack.org/35626311:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add support for volume attachments in compute v2  https://review.openstack.org/45533512:07
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openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add is_profile_only to Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/45521112:28
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elmikoedleafe: heads up, good chance i will be a few minutes late to the meeting today13:15
edleafeelmiko: ok, we'll gossip about you until then13:15
elmikohaha, i would expect nothing less ;)13:16
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openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add docs for volume_attachment compute methods  https://review.openstack.org/45662013:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add docs for volume_attachment compute methods  https://review.openstack.org/45662014:27
openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add is_profile_only to Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/45521114:49
openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Enable warnings_as_errors in doc enforcer  https://review.openstack.org/45367614:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Enable warnings_as_errors in doc enforcer  https://review.openstack.org/45367615:19
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config master: Add ability to pass in user_agent  https://review.openstack.org/45255015:39
mordred1jamielennox|away: ^^ I think that is a better version of that patch15:40
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rabelosc-meeting today? dtroyer_zz?18:58
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rabeldtroyer_zz: so probably no meeting today. ;) i will go then. could you please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444924/ ? it's ready for merging, i think. current patch set is from last friday. and also if you could have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449707/ , it would be nice. just to say if it is ok to deprecate the command like that. i think the gnocchi developers are fine with it.19:06
rabeldtroyer_zz: thanks and see you around19:06
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: The Gerrit service on http://review.openstack.org is being restarted to address hung remote replication tasks.19:52
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openstackgerritayoung proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Implied Roles  https://review.openstack.org/29025323:28
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