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| openstackgerrit | Qichen Hao proposed openstack/cliff: Add the return value for take_action function https://review.openstack.org/293910 | 01:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: update docs with status of plugins https://review.openstack.org/294311 | 01:38 |
| reedip | stevemar: ping | 01:42 |
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| stevemar | reedip: pong | 01:44 |
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| reedip | stevemar : this is a silly question, but still having a doubt... | 01:44 |
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| reedip | stevemar: I see that the structure for rst is doc/source/command-objects/*.rst | 01:44 |
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| reedip | stevemar : just wanted to know the reason why the folder was named as command-objects | 01:45 |
| reedip | stevemar: any reason/document which I can refer to? | 01:45 |
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| stevemar | reedip: no reason, do you have an alternate suggestion? | 01:46 |
| reedip | stevemar: no actually... I am writing a new documentation for another project, so wanted to know the reason why openstackclient has the folder named command-objects | 01:48 |
| reedip | stevemar: actually I was not able to link command-objects to the RST files we make.... they are not objects per se, but whole commands.... thats why I had the doubt | 01:49 |
| stevemar | reedip: i think it's whatever dtroyer or i felt like naming it that day :) | 01:49 |
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| reedip | stevemar: hehe ... okay, maybe we can consider it in the future once.. what do you think ? | 01:50 |
| stevemar | reedip: it was dtroyer, you can blame him! https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/commit/254910d3ce34c954551a0827aa8727d6367f48f3 | 01:51 |
| reedip | yikes... :) , okay I will ask him | 01:52 |
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| reedip | thanks stevemar .... | 01:52 |
| stevemar | reedip: doesn't matter too much to me, if you want to change it, go ahead an propose something - if it's better we'll merge it ^_^ | 01:52 |
| reedip | stevemar : will ask dtroyer before proceeding, he may have some specific reason .. if not then will definitely think and propose something | 01:53 |
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| stevemar | reedip: alrighty | 01:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add "router remove port" to osc https://review.openstack.org/281694 | 02:07 |
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| reedip | stevemar: can you review ^^ and its sister patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281691/ if you have time ? | 02:15 |
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| stevemar | reedip: yes sir | 02:21 |
| reedip | stevemar: thank you sir :) | 02:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add external network options to osc network create https://review.openstack.org/292234 | 02:34 |
| stevemar | reedip: i'll have to look at them tomorrow, falling asleep here! | 02:35 |
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| reedip | stevemar: yeah sure, please do ... thanks anyway :) | 02:35 |
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| RuiChen | hi sheel , thanks showing the background information, I got it, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293661/3 | 03:47 |
| sheel | RuiChen: you are welcome | 03:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add "router remove port" to osc https://review.openstack.org/281694 | 03:49 |
| reedip | RuiChen: ^^ updated with your comments | 03:54 |
| dtroyer | reedip: The reason is that we use the word 'object' to refer to the resources being manipulated, as we use the word 'action' to refer to the verbs. In retrospect, 'resource' would have probably been better, but all of the docs (Command Structure, etc) use object and action. | 03:54 |
| dtroyer | The files in command-objects dir are named for the object/resource | 03:55 |
| reedip | dtroyer: okay ... | 03:55 |
| dtroyer | rather, the primary object when there might be two, such as in 'server add volume' | 03:55 |
| RuiChen | reedip: cool, +1 :-) | 03:56 |
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| reedip | dtroyer : but the word object is bit of a misnomer, in my honest opinion.. I agree that Resource would have been a better option. But this is just my opinion, I just wanted to know the reason behind the naming convention | 03:56 |
| reedip | RuiChen : Thanks :) | 03:57 |
| dtroyer | reedip: object is too overloaded, yes. but it is accurate as part of English grammar: subject verb object | 03:58 |
| dtroyer | the commands were originally verb object | 03:58 |
| dtroyer | we swapped them to simplify bash completion, and somewhere along the way I changed verb to action | 03:58 |
| dtroyer | I'm not sure if changing object to resource now is a good idea or not…if it is too confusing for non-native-English speakers that might be enough of a reason to do it | 03:59 |
| reedip | dtroyer : I would also not like it to change, unless there is a good enough concern.... | 04:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Trivial-Fix : Add a ' to the choices documentation https://review.openstack.org/294412 | 06:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Trivial-Fix : Add a ' to the choices documentation https://review.openstack.org/294412 | 06:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add provider network options to osc network create https://review.openstack.org/294422 | 06:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Enhance exception handling for "network delete" command https://review.openstack.org/293997 | 11:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Trivial-Fix : Add a ' to the choices documentation https://review.openstack.org/294412 | 11:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Theis proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Refactor security group rule create to use SDK https://review.openstack.org/294118 | 12:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Theis proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: Consistent resource.prop for timestamps and booleans (telemetry) https://review.openstack.org/294604 | 13:56 |
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| rtheis | briancurtin: good morning, I was wondering if we could get another release of SDK to pull in https://github.com/openstack/python-openstacksdk/commit/d99bbe80ca3f2000840e66032b983a01c99e0e75 ? OSC is working on several commands to use this. | 14:17 |
| briancurtin | rtheis: sure. let me take a quick look around and see if there’s anything else we can squeeze in - i have a few emails of reviews updates that i’m a bit behind on | 14:18 |
| rtheis | briancurtin: thank you | 14:18 |
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| briancurtin | rtheis: once those key_manager and telemetry ones that i pushed through get merged, i’ll do the release | 14:24 |
| rtheis | briancurtin: thank you | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk: Fix key manager secret resource object https://review.openstack.org/293440 | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sheel Rana proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add support for removing volume-type-access https://review.openstack.org/293684 | 14:32 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: dhellmann dtroyer thoughts on: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/state-of-osc-plugins | 14:34 |
| stevemar | was going to blast it to the ML | 14:34 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: I asked the requirements question in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292541/ | 14:36 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: we spoke about it in the meeting yesterday | 14:36 |
| stevemar | we all think it should be in requirements | 14:36 |
| dtroyer | I think it is valid for a library that also has a plugin in the same package (maybe that's the error?) to not have openstackclient in requirements.txt | 14:36 |
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| dtroyer | unilaterally? | 14:37 |
| rtheis | stevemar: looks good to me pending resolution to requirements question | 14:37 |
| stevemar | "library that also has a plugin in the same package" ? can you use real examples :) | 14:37 |
| dtroyer | should/could the plugin go into a separate package? I'm not so concerned about devs and testing, but the end-user installing many unnedded deps | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk: Consistent resource.prop for timestamps and booleans (telemetry) https://review.openstack.org/294604 | 14:38 |
| dtroyer | heatclient? congressclient? those are the only two I've looked at in detail and it's been a while. | 14:38 |
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| dtroyer | the use-case is wanting the python lib for some reason but not a cli | 14:38 |
| dtroyer | maybe I'm the only one worried about that? | 14:39 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: i think so | 14:39 |
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| dtroyer | it's that 'installing a thousand deps' stuff I grew an allergy to, especially on Windows | 14:39 |
| dtroyer | ok, I can live with that ;) | 14:39 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: most are going to consume it the same time - and they will probably want keystone + other CLI support too | 14:39 |
| stevemar | i doubt anyone is using it as a library, jeez i hope not | 14:40 |
| stevemar | probably for find_resources :( | 14:40 |
| dtroyer | not osc, but keystone+nova+glance+heat… app devs might do that | 14:40 |
| stevemar | but with things synced up in GR, then it shouldn't be that much of an issue | 14:40 |
| dtroyer | oh, I see, you're thinking of plugins calling into openstackclient.* namespace? | 14:40 |
| stevemar | mmm yes | 14:40 |
| dtroyer | I was purely at the package level | 14:41 |
| stevemar | and you're think of "what if i'm a heat app developer and i just want the python bindings" | 14:41 |
| * dtroyer quotes Emily Litella (and reveals his advanced age) | 14:41 | |
| dtroyer | "Never Mind" | 14:41 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: we'll see what doug says, maybe we're both wrong :O | 14:43 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: any other notes you wanted to drop in? I included an 'announcements' section.. and i tried to clean it up a bit, i plan on copying and pasting it to a mailing list note | 14:44 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: alternatively, you could, since you are el PTL grande | 14:44 |
| dtroyer | I think there are multiple levels to consider here and I don't have it all in my head | 14:45 |
| dtroyer | me send the email? I could but it wouldn't be today, I'm on a short schedule again. I will get through reading it right now though | 14:46 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: i'm OK with waiting til you are happy with the state of your head | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Kyrylo Romanenko proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Functional tests for openstackclient help messages https://review.openstack.org/293042 | 14:50 |
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| reedip__ | rtheis: ping | 14:53 |
| rtheis | reedip__: hi | 14:53 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: good morning (?) | 14:53 |
| rtheis | yes | 14:53 |
| rtheis | morning here | 14:54 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: Ok, I was right :) ... I have a doubt wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281694/ | 14:54 |
| rtheis | reedip__: ok | 14:54 |
| reedip__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281694/19/openstackclient/network/v2/router_interface.py , Line#63 | 14:54 |
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| rtheis | reedip__: a new sdk release is coming soon | 14:55 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: Okay, I was saying that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287573/4/openstack/network/v2/_proxy.py is already having the support | 14:56 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: so I think once the SDK is released, some of the comments may be skipped? | 14:56 |
| rtheis | reedip__: it does but that hasn't been released yet (beyond being in master) | 14:56 |
| rtheis | reedip__: what comments? | 14:57 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: the one in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281694/19/openstackclient/network/v2/router_interface.py , Line#63 | 14:57 |
| reedip__ | actually only one comment, I guess | 14:57 |
| rtheis | reedip__: once released then we'll need to osc requirements updated to include it | 14:58 |
| rtheis | reedip__: then the patches are good to go | 14:58 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: okay, that I understand , but I am having one concern... | 14:59 |
| rtheis | sorry, what is the concern? | 14:59 |
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| reedip__ | rtheis: is it possible to sync openstacksdk and openstackclient ; I mean waiting for the release of the SDK to be updated to the requirements of the client is a bit of a manual work isnt it ? ( Or am I missing something here) | 15:00 |
| rtheis | reedip__: yes it is a bit of manual work ... how do you propose syncing? | 15:01 |
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| reedip__ | rtheis: why cant openstackclient pull up the master for sdk and work on it? Is there any issue there? | 15:02 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: I am just trying to understand the concept first... | 15:02 |
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| rtheis | reedip__: when both osc and sdk are on master that is fine | 15:04 |
| rtheis | reedip__: the problem occurs when we want to cut an osc release | 15:04 |
| rtheis | reedip__: the osc release would document new commands but they would only work if installed with sdk master | 15:04 |
| stevemar | reedip__: it's fine for development, but we can't depend on an unreleased version :) | 15:05 |
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| reedip__ | stevemar, rtheis: when is the OSC release scheduled? | 15:10 |
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| reedip__ | or is it already cut for Mitaka ? | 15:10 |
| briancurtin | rtheis: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/openstacksdk/0.8.2 | 15:10 |
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| rtheis | briancurtin: thank you | 15:10 |
| rtheis | reedip__: sdk 0.8.2 is ready | 15:11 |
| reedip__ | braincurtin : thanks ... this is just what we were discussing . . :) | 15:11 |
| reedip__ | Yeah, I saw rtheis | 15:11 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: so now that it is released, the requirements would be updated... then is there a timeframe by when the patches need to be submitted for Mitaka Cutoff? | 15:12 |
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| rtheis | reedip__: I'll defer to dtroyer and stevemar for details on the release schedule | 15:12 |
| reedip__ | rtheis: anyways, I think I should republish the patches which are linked to this ... | 15:13 |
| rtheis | ok | 15:13 |
| reedip__ | thanks rtheis and stevemar for the information ... | 15:14 |
| rtheis | reedip__: you're welcome | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add "router add port" to osc https://review.openstack.org/281691 | 15:24 |
| reedip__ | rthies: Patch#A ^^ | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add "router remove port" to osc https://review.openstack.org/281694 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add "router remove port" to osc https://review.openstack.org/281694 | 15:27 |
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| reedip__ | rtheis: Patch #B | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add Subnet interface to router https://review.openstack.org/289716 | 15:28 |
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| rtheis | ok | 15:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add Subnet interface to router https://review.openstack.org/289716 | 15:32 |
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| reedip__ | rtheis : And the final patch :) ^^ | 15:32 |
| rtheis | ok | 15:33 |
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| reedip__ | rtheis: Thanks a lot for your review comments | 15:33 |
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| rtheis | yw | 15:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add external network options to osc network create https://review.openstack.org/292234 | 15:56 |
| reedip__ | stevemar: Thank you for the review.. updated ^^ | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-wg: Header non-proliferation guideline https://review.openstack.org/280381 | 16:04 |
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| dtroyer | reedip__: The current release is what is/will be stable/mitaka. Remember, we don't sync to the main release schedule, we just pick one to branch at the client branch time | 16:14 |
| reedip__ | dtroyer: Just wanted to know when would the branch occur ? Any specific date? | 16:15 |
| dtroyer | I don't know when those get cut | 16:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Curtin proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: [WIP] Refactor Resource to better serve Proxy https://review.openstack.org/289998 | 16:18 |
| reedip__ | dtroyer: umm... okay ... | 16:18 |
| dtroyer | it was tagged last week: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-openstackclient/log/?h=stable/mitaka | 16:19 |
| briancurtin | BobBall: fyi your SDK change from the other day was released in https://pypi.python.org/pypi/openstacksdk/0.8.2 | 16:20 |
| reedip__ | dtroyer: trying to figure it out.... the one by dhellmann I guess... | 16:23 |
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| dtroyer | yes | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyrylo Romanenko proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Functional tests for openstackclient help messages https://review.openstack.org/293042 | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix keypair create --public-key https://review.openstack.org/294709 | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix keypair create --public-key https://review.openstack.org/294709 | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Theis proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Devref: Document OSC interfaces available to plugins https://review.openstack.org/292541 | 18:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Theis proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: Consistent resource.prop for timestamps and booleans (orchestration) https://review.openstack.org/294766 | 19:05 |
| elmiko | sdague: ping | 19:08 |
| sdague | elmiko: what's up? | 19:10 |
| elmiko | just curious to pick your brain a little about http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/errors.html | 19:11 |
| elmiko | what do you have in mind for the error links? | 19:11 |
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| elmiko | sdague: were those meant to be informational style links (for example, back to the api docs), or a link to something like a json-home doc that the server would produce? | 19:22 |
| sdague | elmiko: my feeling is they should be links back to the api docs | 19:22 |
| elmiko | sdague: ok, cool. thanks! | 19:22 |
| sdague | json-home is an expired spec, and apparently looks a bit dead - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-json-home-03 | 19:23 |
| elmiko | yea, i knew it was on the edge. i was hopeful though ;) | 19:23 |
| sdague | elmiko: but, we kind of need a better api publish process before we can reasonably expect errors to be up on the api site somewhere | 19:23 |
| elmiko | +1 | 19:24 |
| elmiko | sdague: i can see how ideally this field would be used to send a user to a specific spot in the api docs (assuming said publishing process). i just wanted to make sure i understood what you were hinting at in the guideline. | 19:25 |
| sdague | which, is actually a thing I've been POCing this week. And will be spending some time with annegentle next week to sort out | 19:25 |
| elmiko | oh, nice | 19:25 |
| sdague | elmiko: right, that was my idea, it should be a real link | 19:25 |
| sdague | it's just... it's hard to quite say that until we have the ability to put content at that place | 19:25 |
| elmiko | but, like you said, there will need to be some way to programmatically coordinate between the api-doc site and the code producing the error | 19:25 |
| elmiko | imo, seems like a nice fit for autogenerated doc stuffs | 19:26 |
| sdague | the way I would actually imagine this is that people will extend exceptions with a unique slug about the issue | 19:27 |
| elmiko | that would be really cool | 19:27 |
| sdague | and when that exception is caught and translated at the top of the wsgi stack, it will thus link to the right place | 19:28 |
| elmiko | an interesting thought | 19:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Functional tests for openstackclient help messages https://review.openstack.org/293042 | 20:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix keypair create --public-key https://review.openstack.org/294709 | 20:55 |
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| knikolla | stevemar, i would like your opinion on this https://github.com/CCI-MOC/python-openstackclient/commit/41ff4e1635ef2a839ff83a30edc9c58bf1218044 | 21:20 |
| stevemar | knikolla: looking.. | 21:20 |
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| stevemar | knikolla: so, i think first we have to figure out whats a use case you're trying to solve | 21:22 |
| stevemar | knikolla: it's been a while since i've looked at K2K | 21:22 |
| knikolla | stevemar, this is basically for querying a service provider. | 21:23 |
| knikolla | through K2K | 21:23 |
| knikolla | as there is no way with current openstackclient | 21:23 |
| stevemar | knikolla: and querying will allow you perform an operation on the SP? | 21:24 |
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| knikolla | stevemar, yes. I've tried it with basic commands and it worked | 21:25 |
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| knikolla | operation will be directed to the SP | 21:25 |
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| stevemar | knikolla: *not_bad.gif* | 21:26 |
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| stevemar | knikolla: write something up, toss up some code, show some results, let's see how it works | 21:28 |
| stevemar | that'll be awesome if it's that easy... | 21:28 |
| knikolla | stevemar, i'll have to wait on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276350/ | 21:28 |
| stevemar | just add an extra --sp my_pub_cloud and you're done | 21:28 |
| stevemar | gah that | 21:28 |
| stevemar | yeah, i need to get on that | 21:28 |
| stevemar | :( | 21:28 |
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| stevemar | maybe this weekend i'll look at it | 21:29 |
| knikolla | stevemar, the patch he proposed doesn't work. but can easily be fixed if he puts the effort. | 21:30 |
| knikolla | i provided some comments in the review. | 21:30 |
| stevemar | knikolla: don't hesitate to pull it down yourself and fix it up | 21:30 |
| knikolla | and fixing those 2 errors made it work. | 21:30 |
| knikolla | he's already put something like 12 patchsets. it feels weird. | 21:31 |
| knikolla | stevemar | 21:31 |
| stevemar | knikolla: just add yourself as a co-author, in the commit message write: "Co-Authored-By: FirstName LastName <email>" | 21:31 |
| stevemar | knikolla: nah, don't think of it like that | 21:31 |
| stevemar | knikolla: leave a comment before doing it | 21:32 |
| stevemar | "I have solved these issues locally, do you mind if i post a follow on patch?" | 21:32 |
| stevemar | i'll reply asking you to please post one :) | 21:32 |
| knikolla | stevemar, ok, i'll do that. in "Download", which of the options do i copy/paste | 21:33 |
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| knikolla | stevemar, the web ui is confusing. | 21:34 |
| stevemar | knikolla: go to your osc master branch | 21:34 |
| stevemar | knikolla: pull from master `git pull origin master` | 21:34 |
| stevemar | knikolla: download the change: `git review -d 276350` | 21:35 |
| stevemar | knikolla: <hack hack hack> | 21:35 |
| stevemar | knikolla: `git add <files>` | 21:35 |
| stevemar | knikolla: `git commit --amend` << please add your name as a co-author like i said above | 21:35 |
| stevemar | knikolla: `git review` | 21:35 |
| stevemar | done | 21:35 |
| stevemar | i would be very appreciate if you got that patch working! | 21:36 |
| knikolla | stevemar, thanks a lot. I didn't know the "git review -d <patch>" | 21:36 |
| stevemar | knikolla: it's awesome | 21:36 |
| stevemar | knikolla: there is also a cherry-pick option -- git review -x <patch> | 21:36 |
| knikolla | *pulls up 'man git-review' | 21:36 |
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| stevemar | knikolla: heading out for the evening, thanks for all your work as of late | 21:37 |
| stevemar | knikolla: if you have any questions, please post here and i'll see them when i log back on | 21:38 |
| knikolla | stevemar, thanks for all the help! it's been a pleasure. | 21:38 |
| stevemar | :) | 21:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timothy Symanczyk proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Improve error for token issue command without auth https://review.openstack.org/294844 | 22:45 |
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