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| sigmavirus24 | etoews: dhellmann can I bend your ears and pick your brains? | 15:35 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: one or the other but not both | 15:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | dang | 15:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: are you familiar with the work in glance to make the image-import/image creation API satisfactory for defcore? | 15:36 |
| etoews | i'm not | 15:36 |
| sigmavirus24 | So the discussion has focused around https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/image-import/image-import-refactor.html (and this document isn't actually final) | 15:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | So what I want to talk about specifically is https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/image-import/image-import-refactor.html#example-glance-direct-method but let me give you some context first | 15:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | Some public cloud providers have been attacked in an attempt to DDoS the cloud by uploading image data directly to glance under the current image creation semantics so those providers (our employer actually) have made image creation indirect by forcing image data to be uploaded to swift and then imported from there asynchronously | 15:39 |
| sigmavirus24 | Those providers want to continue that workflow in a more discoverable and standardized way though so we're working on a new API that has two ideas for handling image data upload (currently named glance-direct and swift-local but more accurately described as direct versus indirect) | 15:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | If you look at the second link you can see the request to take the image data that's been uploaded via one of those two methods and convert it to an image for that provider | 15:41 |
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| sigmavirus24 | My concerns are as follows: Users need to know too much (upload method - direct vs. indirect; what format the cloud wants images in) | 15:42 |
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| sigmavirus24 | That request data doesn't seem very ... consistent necessarily and may vary per cloud based on what they're using | 15:43 |
| sigmavirus24 | /cc rosmaita too | 15:43 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: what I'm thinking is about making target_* optional unless the cloud explicitly states many different (disk|container) formats without having preferences | 15:44 |
| sigmavirus24 | But I feel like that only makes things worse | 15:44 |
| sigmavirus24 | I just don't feel like this is going to be a good API for users or developers or really anyone trying to upload image data even if it's more discoverable and standardized than what existed before in v2 | 15:45 |
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| etoews | i read through most of the spec | 16:20 |
| etoews | based on the problem description https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/image-import/image-import-refactor.html#problem-description | 16:21 |
| etoews | it's clear there's a lot of inherent complexity in this | 16:21 |
| etoews | and this api design reflects that inherent complexity | 16:21 |
| etoews | it really is a lot of hoops to jump through to get an image created. it's going to confuse people. | 16:22 |
| etoews | it could be that we have to punt and say. ya, the api is complex, please use one of these higher level tools that we've provided for you to get the job done. | 16:23 |
| etoews | i got curious what aws does about this. | 16:24 |
| etoews | https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/ | 16:24 |
| etoews | they don't even mention the api on that page | 16:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: so I'm also thinking about how GitHub handles uploaded assets and I think I have an idea | 16:24 |
| etoews | and the process still looks pretty complicated | 16:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | I might propose it on the mailing list because it'll be a bit length of a discussion | 16:24 |
| etoews | sgtm | 16:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: I'll add the [api] tag to hopefully get your attention :) | 16:25 |
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| etoews | if you can find a way to add more hours to the day, that would be helpful too. :) | 16:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah | 16:26 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Tell me about it | 16:26 |
| etoews | briancurtin: terrylhowe: here's an approach for dynamically wrapping the ksa session calls. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265071/ | 16:28 |
| elmiko | etoews: +1 for more hours... | 16:28 |
| etoews | ignoring the functional test failures...let me know what you think about the approach. | 16:28 |
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| sigmavirus24 | etoews: hopefully the message went through already /cc rosmaita dhellmann | 17:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083632.html in case you're nto finding it | 17:18 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: that feels…tricky? i know overall it’s going to be some trickery, but i’m thinking something super simple like a thin wrapper, e.g., def get(self, *args, **kwargs): super(Session).get(args, kwargs) or whatever plus it’s decorated with a try/except that just handles and reraises our exceptions. i’m going to look into it (though i need to do | 20:07 |
| briancurtin | these evals i guess) | 20:07 |
| etoews | briancurtin: yep. that's option 1. override all the calls we use in ksa and just decorate them with a function that does the exception mapping. | 20:09 |
| briancurtin | etoews: i think i have another way to solve similar to yours, trying to hack something up | 20:10 |
| etoews | what do you think about some of my other concerns on that review, regarding information loss and the tracebacks. | 20:11 |
| etoews | briancurtin: wait. i took this bug so you wouldn't have to do it. you have your own bugs/patches/reviews in progress. | 20:13 |
| briancurtin | etoews: i don’t even think my other hack is going to work so i’ll just be a commenter here | 20:14 |
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| etoews | i'm happy to take feedback on different approaches but let me do the work so you can focus on your stuff. | 20:14 |
| etoews | cool. | 20:14 |
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| briancurtin | sounds good, going to comment on the issue rather than in here so it’s logged | 20:14 |
| etoews | ++ | 20:14 |
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