Monday, 2015-11-30

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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add support for generalized per-region settings  https://review.openstack.org/24848416:00
mordredShrews, notmorgan: ^^ I think we're going to need this sooner than later over in nodepool16:00
openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Integrating mistralclient with openstackclient  https://review.openstack.org/25145116:00
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notmorganmordred: looking16:06
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mordredstevemar, terrylhowe: if you're around, https://review.openstack.org/248484 could use love16:21
mordredoh. wel16:21
mordredmaybe I should make it pass tests first16:21
notmorganmordred: hehe16:23
stevemarmordred: ++ on making tests pass first16:23
openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Integrating mistralclient with openstackclient  https://review.openstack.org/25145116:26
openstackgerritTang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Trivial: Improve help doc for "server list" command  https://review.openstack.org/25146116:37
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add support for generalized per-region settings  https://review.openstack.org/24848416:41
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openstackgerritTang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Trivial: Improve help doc for "server list" command  https://review.openstack.org/25146117:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystoneauth: Add argparse registration from Adapter objects  https://review.openstack.org/24530418:01
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wchrisjHey Terry:18:54
wchrisjIf I need to create network stuff (network, router, etc.) and I'm using OSC, best to fall back to the neutron client?18:55
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wchrisjterrylhowe: ^18:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Add --marker option to "server list" command.  https://review.openstack.org/24577718:58
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stevemarwchrisj: yes sir, network support for OSC is lacking19:12
stevemarwe're tyring to tackle that this release19:12
stevemardtroyer: deano!19:13
stevemaryou gonna release a new osc version?19:13
stevemarlots of changes going in!19:13
wchrisjThanks stevemar:19:13
dtroyerI'm still catching up from last week ;)19:13
dtroyerand am out again this coming Fri/Mon19:14
stevemardtroyer: me too!19:14
stevemari'll propose a new osc if i have time19:14
dtroyerI've got my nose in the ksa session review atm, I really want to get that thing wrapped up19:15
stevemardtroyer: we'll have to call it 2.0.0 since we're dropping py26 support :(19:15
dtroyerbut it can wait if it's time to do a release19:15
dtroyeroh…19:15
dtroyer2.0 gets the new name19:15
dtroyercrap...19:15
stevemari figured 3.0 would get the new name19:16
stevemardhellmann: we've got another one ^19:16
* dtroyer thinks through how dropping py26 causes a semver change...19:16
stevemar13:11 dhellmann: stevemar , notmorgan : yeah, dropping support for a whole deployment platform is a major version change19:17
stevemar13:11 dhellmann: you're declaring a backwards-incompatible change19:17
stevemardtroyer: ^19:17
dtroyerright…but its to the supporting platform not the CLI interface19:17
dtroyerso ok, wtf19:17
dtroyerversions are cheap, right?19:18
stevemarvery19:18
dtroyerwe'll beat Windows to 11.x!19:18
stevemarits just a number19:18
stevemarhehe19:18
dtroyereven overtake Emacs before long19:18
stevemardtroyer: i think terry and tangchen have a plan for neutron support19:18
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dtroyerI saw glimpses of it…all SDK, right?19:19
stevemarWE ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DO STUFF FOR TI!19:19
stevemarIT*19:19
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* dtroyer wants no new neutronclient bits19:19
stevemardtroyer: i'm not 100% sure of their game plan, but they are all talking together19:19
stevemardtroyer: rtheis is talking with them too, maybe he can elaborate?19:20
stevemardtroyer: also your +1 is needed here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249450/19:22
stevemaractually i'll just refer to the patch19:22
dtroyerokie dokie…+1'ed anyway19:22
stevemardtroyer: awesome, maybe mordred can do us a solid :)19:23
rtheisstevemar, dtroyer: we are in the early stages of planning neutron support.  Terry Howe opened some bugs and was starting to populate the blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+spec/neutron-client).  I've opened an RFE (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1521291) on the neutron side to get conversation started there.19:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1521291 in neutron "[RFE] Transition neutron CLI from python-neutronclient to python-openstackclient" [Undecided,New]19:24
dtroyerthat phrase has always bothered me just a smidge…19:24
dtroyerrtheis: thanks for the news19:25
rtheisyw19:25
stevemarrtheis: great, lemme know if you need dtroyer or i to weigh in on stuff19:25
stevemardtroyer: what phrase?19:25
rtheiswill do19:25
dtroyerrtheis: I am picky-picky-picky on the command formatting, if you haven't already noticed yet…did you find the initial set we did a couple of years ago in the wiki?19:26
* stevemar needs food to continue living, brb19:26
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stevemarowww19:27
rtheisdtroyer: I found https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackClient/Commands#Network19:27
rtheisBut I wasn't sure were or how to start the next round of the design19:27
rtheis*where19:27
dtroyerok, good.  it isn't gospel (things like 'os cisco' should never exist in repo) but should be a starting point19:28
rtheisdtroyer: sounds good, I was planning to use that as a starting point19:28
dtroyermy process is basically to identify the resources to manage, get them named, and figure out how they need to be manipulated19:28
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dtroyerthe first step is often the hardest19:29
dtroyerrather 1+219:29
dtroyerrtheis: since we've converted from the wiki to in-tree docs it might be interesting to do the command design directly in the RST doc format, even if it isn't in the repo right away.19:31
dtroyerany explanations for comamnds/options needed for the design might need to be in the docs anyway19:31
rtheisdtroyer: I was just going to ask the logistics on that review process  :)19:31
dtroyerits been a while since we did a new bulk implementation like this19:32
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dtroyerpreviously we'd usually merge a resource at once.  now the docs should go in with the code.   but for the design, I'm wondering if we write the RST doc elsewhere (etherpad?) to hammer out the details.19:33
dtroyerwe're open to suggestions19:34
rtheisdtroyer: I was thinking an etherpad too or a possibly a spec under a new "specs" directory in case we wanted to track the review and comments.19:39
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Switch to ksa Session  https://review.openstack.org/23818019:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Remove py26 support  https://review.openstack.org/24945120:06
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briancurtinetoews: terry isn’t online, but can you or him run the meeting tomorrow? i picked up an appointment for my new kidney friend at the same time as the meeting20:45
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openstackgerritRyan Baker proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix block and shared migration for live-migrate  https://review.openstack.org/25153820:53
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baker@stevemar - Thanks for the link to the contribution process.  Had been reviewing it, but was struggling with not forking or branching the repo.   Reviewed that link more closely and saw the Openstack Gerrit sandbox so that I could work through the flow first.  That helped tremendously.20:56
etoewsbriancurtin: sure thing. if terrylhowe isn't around, i'll start it.20:56
stevemarbaker: great to hear! you can thank the infra team for setting that up :)20:57
bakerits awesome!  had never used gerrit before, which was my sticking point.  The sandbox at least provided me confidence20:57
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stevemarbaker: nice, some things are weird, but if you run into trouble, let me know, a lot of us can help21:01
stevemarbaker: pro-tip, if you want to make an amendment to the patch, use that same branch, <hack hack hack>, git add <files>, git commit --amend (revise message), then git review21:02
stevemarrebasing and all that nasty biz is gonna be a learning experience21:02
briancurtinsignificant emphasis on the word “hack"21:02
bakeroh yeah - I'm familiar with git21:02
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mordredstevemar, dtroyer what did I need?21:03
bakerjust not so much the gerrit part of the workflow.  Typically just use github for the review process with remote branches and forks21:03
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stevemarmordred: we got it covered ;)21:05
stevemarbriancurtin: :)21:05
stevemarbaker: awesome, i'll review you patch soon, reviews aren't exactly fast in openstack, but i'll try to get on it asap21:06
baker@stevemar thanks a bunch!21:07
bakerit'll be a real quick review21:07
mordredstevemar: woot! I win21:08
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add a changelog to see all changes into tagged releases  https://review.openstack.org/25154521:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystoneauth: Add release notes for keystoneauth  https://review.openstack.org/25116321:43
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elmikosdague: i had gotten used to the low traffic of openstack-api, now i'm checking this tab all the time... thanks ;)21:44
dtroyerelmiko: it isn't always this busy, we wanted y'all to feel welcome!21:44
elmikodtroyer: awww, so sweet =)21:45
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add support for generalized per-region settings  https://review.openstack.org/24848422:22
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add support for generalized per-region settings  https://review.openstack.org/24848422:37
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25097622:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Add status column for "openstack image list"  https://review.openstack.org/24870223:47
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