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| tangchen__ | lhcheng: Hi, cheng, Would you please have a look at this patch ? | 12:12 |
| tangchen__ | lhcheng: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244418/ | 12:12 |
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| flwang | dtroyer_zz: ping | 13:42 |
| flwang | stevemar_: ping | 13:43 |
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| stevemar_ | flwang: pong | 13:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add --sort option to "server list" command. https://review.openstack.org/245776 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add --marker option to "server list" command. https://review.openstack.org/245777 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add --limit option to "server list" command. https://review.openstack.org/245778 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add --short option to "server list" command. https://review.openstack.org/245779 | 13:56 |
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| flwang | stevemar_: i'm revisiting this patch https://review.openstack.org/216159 | 13:57 |
| flwang | and based on dtroyer_zz's comments, i would like to confirm before approve it | 13:57 |
| flwang | stevemar_: do you have a few minutes? | 13:57 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: i sure do | 13:57 |
| flwang | stevemar_: based on my understanding, even though we use pool_flavor_delete, the name conflict problem still exists, even though we just delay it | 13:59 |
| flwang | just like fox mentioned in the mail, see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/076906.html | 14:00 |
| flwang | lb has the pool concept as well, so that means we will still has the conflict issue at the first subcommand level | 14:00 |
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| flwang | and i'm seeing sahara is using 'dataprocessing' as the "top" sub" command, so i'm a little bit confused, TBH | 14:02 |
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| stevemar_ | flwang: re: sahara, we didn't want folks to namespace commands with "dataprocesing" and "congress", but these were done before we had a chance to give input :( | 14:04 |
| stevemar_ | if messaging pool makes sense, we can use it | 14:05 |
| stevemar_ | but i'd prefer that we don't prefix everything, that'll get annoying | 14:05 |
| flwang | stevemar_: ok, then back to the first question, how to resolve the name conflict issue? :) | 14:05 |
| flwang | like how to distinguish the pool of zaqar and neutron's lb? | 14:06 |
| flwang | it's a software world, so there must be some common/similar term/resource defined by different services | 14:07 |
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| stevemar_ | we can't have conflicts, they have to be different | 14:07 |
| stevemar_ | we can use "messaging pool" and "networking pool" for zaqar/neutron | 14:08 |
| stevemar_ | i'd prefer we don't have "messaging" in front of everything, but if it's necessary to avoid conflicts, then we can use it | 14:08 |
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| flwang | stevemar_: i see. but then the commands will be a little bit weird | 14:11 |
| flwang | because the 'messaging'/'networking' is most like a namespace, no matter how we call it | 14:12 |
| flwang | so some commands will have it, some commands won't have it, even though they belong to same project, right? | 14:12 |
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| stevemar_ | flwang: right, i think that's the preferred behavior | 14:15 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: so we ran into the problem with 'containers' | 14:15 |
| stevemar_ | swift containers vs docker type containers | 14:16 |
| stevemar_ | we'll have to rename one of those to 'object store containers' | 14:16 |
| stevemar_ | 'networking domains' and keystone domains | 14:16 |
| stevemar_ | maybe dtroyer_zz has a better idea | 14:17 |
| flwang | stevemar_: ok, i see | 14:17 |
| flwang | then back to zaqar's case, should we use 'messaging' for pool? | 14:18 |
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| tangchen__ | stevemar_: Hi, steve. Would you please have a look at this series of patches ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243977/ | 14:26 |
| tangchen__ | stevemar_: I think it is better than the previous version. :) | 14:26 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: i think so, let's add 'messaging' to pool | 14:32 |
| stevemar_ | i think that pleases everyone | 14:32 |
| stevemar_ | tangchen__: i will in the afternoon, heading out soon! | 14:32 |
| flwang | stevemar_: i'm happy to either way, i just want to figure out what the policy in the future to avoid more conflicts | 14:32 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: you want both pool commands to be updated? | 14:36 |
| stevemar_ | right now it's only 'flavor delete' that's causing problems | 14:36 |
| stevemar_ | `pool create` -> `messaging pool create` | 14:36 |
| stevemar_ | and | 14:36 |
| stevemar_ | `flavor delete` -> `messaging flavor delete` | 14:37 |
| flwang | stevemar_: we can do that with a separate patch, that's ok | 14:37 |
| stevemar_ | ? | 14:37 |
| stevemar_ | alright, just messsaging flavor delete then? | 14:37 |
| flwang | stevemar_: and we may need to keep the backward compatibility :( | 14:37 |
| flwang | stevemar_: good for me | 14:37 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: there is no backwards compat. for 'flavor delete' it never worked | 14:37 |
| flwang | stevemar_: i mean the pool create, sorry | 14:38 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: ++ | 14:38 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: we'll need a release of manilaclient, and we should consider backporting this to liberty | 14:40 |
| flwang | stevemar_: so will you upload a new patchset? | 14:40 |
| flwang | stevemar_: it would be awesome, re backporting | 14:40 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: i uploaded a new patch | 14:41 |
| flwang | stevemar_: how a fast hand! | 14:42 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: so the commands been like that since august :( https://github.com/openstack/python-zaqarclient/commit/705ee75216fe842173df45ae6155cac7c1009e33 | 14:42 |
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| flwang | you must have a super keyboard either :) | 14:42 |
| stevemar_ | so it was released like that for liberty :( | 14:42 |
| stevemar_ | once it's approved, i'll propose a release and a backport, and a point release for liberty | 14:43 |
| flwang | stevemar_: yep, i'm sorry for that | 14:43 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: it's fine | 14:43 |
| flwang | stevemar_: thanks for your effort on this case | 14:43 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: part of the reason i am working to fix this is so we don't run into this problem in the future | 14:43 |
| flwang | stevemar_: excellent | 14:43 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: i have an experimental job to pull in clients and and create a list of entrypoints, if any conflict we'll know about it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235747/ | 14:44 |
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| flwang | stevemar_: it's very cool, so will the gate test fail if there is any conflict? | 14:46 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: yep, it should | 14:48 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: i may add it to a bunch of the consuming clients | 14:48 |
| stevemar_ | we'll see | 14:48 |
| flwang | stevemar_: it will be super cool | 14:48 |
| stevemar_ | flwang: what channel are you normally in? i was trying to get folks to look at this for a while :) | 14:48 |
| flwang | stevemar_: zaqar and glance | 14:48 |
| flwang | #openstack-zaqar and #openstack-glance | 14:49 |
| dtroyer_zz | flwang, stevemar_: re the pool stuffs, the very first thing you have to do in making a command is to identify and name the resource you are talking about, then the actions performed on/with that resource. | 14:55 |
| dtroyer_zz | what is the resource name in the pool discussion above? | 14:56 |
| dtroyer_zz | I see it referrerd to as at least two different names | 14:56 |
| flwang | dtroyer_zz: zaqar's flavor | 14:56 |
| dtroyer_zz | but for the command, what is the resource name? | 14:56 |
| flwang | flavor | 14:57 |
| dtroyer_zz | taken | 14:57 |
| dtroyer_zz | message flavor? messaging flavor? foobar flavor? | 14:57 |
| flwang | messaging flavor | 14:57 |
| flwang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236021/ | 14:57 |
| dtroyer_zz | ok, then you must use that name in every reference to the flavor to stay consistent | 14:57 |
| flwang | dtroyer_zz: yep, sure | 14:58 |
| dtroyer_zz | you are qualifying the flavor name, not adding a namespace here | 14:58 |
| dtroyer_zz | it si a subtle difference that most people who only think in terms of identifying their project dopn't see at first | 14:58 |
| dtroyer_zz | not that you are doing that | 14:58 |
| dtroyer_zz | I just want to try and keep reinforcing the process of naming resources | 14:59 |
| flwang | dtroyer_zz: ok, i see. may i know what's the big drawback of 'namespace'? | 15:00 |
| dtroyer_zz | personally, I don't particularly like the -ing word in that name (messaging vs message) but I'm not sure I know enough to really argue against it, it just doesn't feel right to me | 15:00 |
| dtroyer_zz | flwang: it partitions everything, and we lose the integration. Users have to know more about which project/API a resource is owned by | 15:00 |
| dtroyer_zz | if that's the way people want it, why add to OSC? | 15:01 |
| dtroyer_zz | for the upper layer projects, that is less of a worry because users will likely know they are using the messaging service, for example | 15:01 |
| flwang | dtroyer_zz: it's a valid point | 15:02 |
| stevemar_ | dtroyer_zz: thanks for tagging in! | 15:06 |
| stevemar_ | i'm heading out, i'll read the scroll up | 15:06 |
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| flwang | dtroyer_zz: thanks, i'm in the zaqar weekly meeting, ttyl, sorry | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lin Hua Cheng proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Address hacking check H405. https://review.openstack.org/243889 | 22:39 |
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| stevemar_ | dtroyer_zz: deanooo, you gotta stop marking the milestones with the osc bug :) it's screwing up the automagical release process | 23:48 |
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