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jamielennox | stevemar, dtroyer, terrylhowe, briancurtin: some ideas i want us to think about: https://github.com/jamielennox/stack | 01:48 |
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jamielennox | et al ^ | 01:49 |
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stevemar | jamielennox: looking | 02:41 |
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stevemar | jamielennox: so you think the API can handle all that? | 02:45 |
jamielennox | stevemar: which API? | 02:45 |
stevemar | we should define where the line is drawn, which services / operations will be supported | 02:45 |
stevemar | err, i meant SDK, not API | 02:45 |
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jamielennox | stevemar: i have no idea but i was wanting it to be a feedback cycle | 02:46 |
jamielennox | a chance for the people interested in the SDK to try things out where there's an easier compatibility cycle | 02:46 |
jamielennox | and then move what works over to SDK | 02:46 |
stevemar | jamielennox: if we are attempting to target novice users, a single binary would work better | 02:47 |
jamielennox | s/cycle/something | 02:47 |
stevemar | and Go would be better, like it is for rack | 02:47 |
jamielennox | stevemar: I don't disagree, but i don't want to write the whole world either, we're fairly invested in python | 02:47 |
jamielennox | i want to make something out of our own tools | 02:47 |
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jamielennox | stevemar: besides it depends how novice you think people are, i think most people can do python or a distro package or pipsi or something | 02:50 |
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stevemar | jamielennox: makes sense, i would certainly be able to contribute more if it was in python | 02:54 |
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stevemar | dtroyer: terrylhowe, have either of you started a patch to use keystoneauth in osc? | 04:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: use keystoneauth instead of keystoneclient https://review.openstack.org/221593 | 04:56 |
stevemar | jamielennox: ^ it's failing, but i'd appreciate some eyes | 04:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: use keystoneauth instead of keystoneclient https://review.openstack.org/221593 | 07:20 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: use keystoneauth instead of keystoneclient https://review.openstack.org/221593 | 07:22 |
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openstackgerrit | LiuWei proposed stackforge/python-openstacksdk: add support for availability zones'query. https://review.openstack.org/221646 | 08:52 |
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terrylhowe | jamielennox: sounds interesting, but it might be hard to draw the line one what to support and what not to. It would be kind of cool if you could gloss over details like creating all the network components needed for a server if you were running neutron | 10:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/os-client-config: Return keystoneauth plugins based on auth args https://review.openstack.org/221125 | 12:27 |
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jamielennox | terrylhowe: yea, i don't know what that line would be | 12:56 |
jamielennox | terrylhowe: the basic test would be the what is needed to boot a useful vm | 12:57 |
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jamielennox | once we got there i guess it would have to be what feels like it made sense | 12:57 |
jamielennox | swift particularly would be an interesting call | 12:58 |
jamielennox | though i'd probably say no | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Use novaclient.client.Client for initialization Nova client https://review.openstack.org/221815 | 15:03 |
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dtroyer | terrylhowe: does the SDK have any microversion negotiation capabilities? ie, negotiate with Nova for Compute 2.4 or something… | 19:07 |
briancurtin | no | 19:07 |
terrylhowe | I did create a ticket for that the other day though | 19:07 |
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dtroyer | thanks briancurtin. I think I'm going to tackle that soon…we may need it in OSC and it should be generic, not what is in novaclient | 19:08 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: yeah i saw that but i wasn't sure what to do with it | 19:08 |
terrylhowe | me neither briancurtin I’m not sure what steps need to be taken, but I created that ticke tot kind of break down the story and make tasks | 19:09 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/217211 | 19:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Move options to log level out of shell.py https://review.openstack.org/210824 | 19:46 |
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stevemar | dtroyer: the destroyer! | 19:47 |
dtroyer | stevemar: v3! v3! v3! | 19:47 |
stevemar | dtroyer: i wish | 19:47 |
stevemar | did you approve that one? | 19:47 |
stevemar | i'm on the fence with it... | 19:47 |
dtroyer | so I tried your default v3 review, didn't change the defaults for me, unless theres a config I haven't foudn yet I'm not sure what I'm missing. | 19:48 |
stevemar | oh? | 19:48 |
stevemar | thats no bueno, i did the same change for volume | 19:48 |
stevemar | also, neutron/nova have new clients, keystone is cutting one today, i have to ask about cinder and glance | 19:48 |
dtroyer | I've been poking around the nova updates, Andrey as a tweak to the fix that unwedged us | 19:49 |
stevemar | nice | 19:49 |
dtroyer | I'll +2 the v3 change anyway if you're ready for it to go in…I'm assuming my trouble is self-inflicted somehow | 19:50 |
dtroyer | My main concern is that all of the v2-only cluods don't break | 19:50 |
stevemar | dtroyer: yes, that's also my concern | 19:59 |
stevemar | but would v2 only clouds be using osc? | 19:59 |
dtroyer | yes, I did for 2.5 years | 19:59 |
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stevemar | got dangit | 20:00 |
dtroyer | dh, rax, vexxhost, ovh are all configured for v2 in occ's vendors files | 20:01 |
dtroyer | although that doens' tnecessarily mean they are v2 only | 20:02 |
stevemar | does occ set os-identity-api-version to 2.0? | 20:03 |
dtroyer | not directly, I'm looking in the vendors files. for OSC, it shouldn't set anything directly, we want to manage the defaults | 20:04 |
dtroyer | defaults-wise | 20:04 |
stevemar | also, another topic - we need to have our own version of `swift post -m <some metadata>` | 20:04 |
stevemar | where it just updates the "account" with metadata | 20:04 |
stevemar | something in the gate actually runs that command, and ironic broke when we tried to do v3 by default | 20:05 |
dtroyer | heh, what's the noun in that command? That's one reason the 'account' commands are not done yet | 20:05 |
dtroyer | account is a bad choice there | 20:06 |
stevemar | https://github.com/openstack/keystonemiddleware/blob/2970c5b635d8af788ea0e10233b4799cd02853e0/keystonemiddleware/auth_token/__init__.py#L178-L185 | 20:06 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Extract log level from configuration file https://review.openstack.org/210825 | 20:06 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Optimize log formatting https://review.openstack.org/210828 | 20:06 |
stevemar | dtroyer: ^ ML post | 20:06 |
stevemar | dtroyer: i was thinking account... | 20:06 |
stevemar | object store account? | 20:06 |
stevemar | also, what other 'account' commands are there? | 20:07 |
stevemar | why not 'account'? i like it | 20:07 |
dtroyer | but account is so totally non-descriptive in a non-standalone swift install. what does it map to? a user? a project? | 20:08 |
dtroyer | just because stand-alone swift needed a place to put stuff like that doesn't mean we need to perpetuate that distinction. do users need to know that? | 20:08 |
dtroyer | maybe they do | 20:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Create log configuration class https://review.openstack.org/211291 | 20:15 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Automate flavors, networks, and image get https://review.openstack.org/215742 | 20:23 |
stevemar | dtroyer: meh, let me know if you think of a name, i want to squeeze that functionality in before we release | 20:34 |
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