Wednesday, 2015-09-09

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jamielennoxstevemar, dtroyer, terrylhowe, briancurtin: some ideas i want us to think about: https://github.com/jamielennox/stack01:48
jamielennoxet al ^01:49
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stevemarjamielennox: looking02:41
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stevemarjamielennox: so you think the API can handle all that?02:45
jamielennoxstevemar: which API?02:45
stevemarwe should define where the line is drawn, which services / operations will be supported02:45
stevemarerr, i meant SDK, not API02:45
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jamielennoxstevemar: i have no idea but i was wanting it to be a feedback cycle02:46
jamielennoxa chance for the people interested in the SDK to try things out where there's an easier compatibility cycle02:46
jamielennoxand then move what works over to SDK02:46
stevemarjamielennox: if we are attempting to target novice users, a single binary would work better02:47
jamielennoxs/cycle/something02:47
stevemarand Go would be better, like it is for rack02:47
jamielennoxstevemar: I don't disagree, but i don't want to write the whole world either, we're fairly invested in python02:47
jamielennoxi want to make something out of our own tools02:47
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jamielennoxstevemar: besides it depends how novice you think people are, i think most people can do python or a distro package or pipsi or something02:50
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stevemarjamielennox: makes sense, i would certainly be able to contribute more if it was in python02:54
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stevemardtroyer: terrylhowe, have either of you started a patch to use keystoneauth in osc?04:17
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: use keystoneauth instead of keystoneclient  https://review.openstack.org/22159304:56
stevemarjamielennox: ^ it's failing, but i'd appreciate some eyes04:56
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: use keystoneauth instead of keystoneclient  https://review.openstack.org/22159307:20
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: use keystoneauth instead of keystoneclient  https://review.openstack.org/22159307:22
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openstackgerritLiuWei proposed stackforge/python-openstacksdk: add support for availability zones'query.  https://review.openstack.org/22164608:52
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terrylhowejamielennox: sounds interesting, but it might be hard to draw the line one what to support and what not to.  It would be kind of cool if you could gloss over details like creating all the network components needed for a server if you were running neutron10:31
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/os-client-config: Return keystoneauth plugins based on auth args  https://review.openstack.org/22112512:27
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jamielennoxterrylhowe: yea, i don't know what that line would be12:56
jamielennoxterrylhowe: the basic test would be the what is needed to boot a useful vm12:57
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jamielennoxonce we got there i guess it would have to be what feels like it made sense12:57
jamielennoxswift particularly would be an interesting call12:58
jamielennoxthough i'd probably say no12:58
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Use novaclient.client.Client for initialization Nova client  https://review.openstack.org/22181515:03
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dtroyerterrylhowe: does the SDK have any microversion negotiation capabilities? ie, negotiate with Nova for Compute 2.4 or something…19:07
briancurtinno19:07
terrylhoweI did create a ticket for that the other day though19:07
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dtroyerthanks briancurtin.  I think I'm going to tackle that soon…we may need it in OSC and it should be generic, not what is in novaclient19:08
briancurtinterrylhowe: yeah i saw that but i wasn't sure what to do with it19:08
terrylhoweme neither briancurtin I’m not sure what steps need to be taken, but I created that ticke tot kind of break down the story and make tasks19:09
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/21721119:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Move options to log level out of shell.py  https://review.openstack.org/21082419:46
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stevemardtroyer: the destroyer!19:47
dtroyerstevemar: v3! v3! v3!19:47
stevemardtroyer: i wish19:47
stevemardid you approve that one?19:47
stevemari'm on the fence with it...19:47
dtroyerso I tried your default v3 review, didn't change the defaults for me, unless theres a config I haven't foudn yet I'm not sure what I'm missing.19:48
stevemaroh?19:48
stevemarthats no bueno, i did the same change for volume19:48
stevemaralso, neutron/nova have new clients, keystone is cutting one today, i have to ask about cinder and glance19:48
dtroyerI've been poking around the nova updates, Andrey as a tweak to the fix that unwedged us19:49
stevemarnice19:49
dtroyerI'll +2 the v3 change anyway if you're ready for it to go in…I'm assuming my trouble is self-inflicted somehow19:50
dtroyerMy main concern is that all of the v2-only cluods don't break19:50
stevemardtroyer: yes, that's also my concern19:59
stevemarbut would v2 only clouds be using osc?19:59
dtroyeryes, I did for 2.5 years19:59
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stevemargot dangit20:00
dtroyerdh, rax, vexxhost, ovh are all configured for v2 in occ's vendors files20:01
dtroyeralthough that doens' tnecessarily mean they are v2 only20:02
stevemardoes occ set os-identity-api-version to 2.0?20:03
dtroyernot directly, I'm looking in the vendors files.   for OSC, it shouldn't set anything directly, we want to manage the defaults20:04
dtroyerdefaults-wise20:04
stevemaralso, another topic - we need to have our own version of `swift post -m <some metadata>`20:04
stevemarwhere it just updates the "account" with metadata20:04
stevemarsomething in the gate actually runs that command, and ironic broke when we tried to do v3 by default20:05
dtroyerheh, what's the noun in that command?  That's one reason the 'account' commands are not done yet20:05
dtroyeraccount is a bad choice there20:06
stevemarhttps://github.com/openstack/keystonemiddleware/blob/2970c5b635d8af788ea0e10233b4799cd02853e0/keystonemiddleware/auth_token/__init__.py#L178-L18520:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Extract log level from configuration file  https://review.openstack.org/21082520:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Optimize log formatting  https://review.openstack.org/21082820:06
stevemardtroyer: ^ ML post20:06
stevemardtroyer: i was thinking account...20:06
stevemarobject store account?20:06
stevemaralso, what other 'account' commands are there?20:07
stevemarwhy not 'account'? i like it20:07
dtroyerbut account is so totally non-descriptive in a non-standalone swift install.  what does it map to?  a user? a project?20:08
dtroyerjust because stand-alone swift needed a place to put stuff like that doesn't mean we need to perpetuate that distinction.  do users need to know that?20:08
dtroyermaybe they do20:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Create log configuration class  https://review.openstack.org/21129120:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Automate flavors, networks, and image get  https://review.openstack.org/21574220:23
stevemardtroyer: meh, let me know if you think of a name, i want to squeeze that functionality in before we release20:34
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