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| openstackgerrit | Dave Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Not use the deprecated argument https://review.openstack.org/188804 | 02:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/188672 | 06:01 |
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| jaosorior | stevemar: ping | 12:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Enable specifying domain for group and role commands https://review.openstack.org/189294 | 13:33 |
| MaxV | hello there, I want to work on the python-openstackclient, but I do not find any documentation for how to setup a dev environment | 13:54 |
| MaxV | I can complete that, but I need a little help for starting | 13:54 |
| MaxV | I currently clone the git repo and add it to the PYTHONPATH | 13:55 |
| MaxV | but I have an error which seems to appear if you do not use the setup.py install | 13:56 |
| MaxV | Traceback (most recent call last): | 13:56 |
| MaxV | File "./stack_init.py", line 13, in <module> | 13:56 |
| MaxV | import openstackclient.common.clientmanager as clientmanager | 13:56 |
| MaxV | File "/mnt/python-openstackclient/openstackclient/__init__.py", line 20, in <module> | 13:56 |
| MaxV | __version__ = version_info.version_string() | 13:56 |
| MaxV | File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pbr/version.py", line 457, in version_string | 13:56 |
| MaxV | return self.semantic_version().brief_string() | 13:56 |
| MaxV | File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pbr/version.py", line 452, in semantic_version | 13:56 |
| MaxV | self._semantic = self._get_version_from_pkg_resources() | 13:56 |
| MaxV | File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pbr/version.py", line 439, in _get_version_from_pkg_resources | 13:56 |
| MaxV | result_string = packaging.get_version(self.package) | 13:56 |
| MaxV | File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pbr/packaging.py", line 660, in get_version | 13:57 |
| MaxV | raise Exception("Versioning for this project requires either an sdist" | 13:57 |
| MaxV | Exception: Versioning for this project requires either an sdist tarball, or access to an upstream git repository. Are you sure that git is installed? | 13:57 |
| MaxV | (I have git installed) | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Enable specifying domain for group and role commands https://review.openstack.org/189294 | 14:05 |
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| jaosorior | MaxV: I think you'll keep getting that error if you don't use setup.py, since the version is gotten from pbr, which will actually set things up being called from that script | 14:14 |
| MaxV | jaosorior: seems like a compilation time to my eyes :x | 14:15 |
| jaosorior | MaxV: You'll probably encounter similar things in most of the openstack projects | 14:18 |
| MaxV | jaosorior: ok, so I will use it like this, thx for the help | 14:19 |
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| MaxV | jaosorior: okay so I have made a setup.py install then a symbolic link to the /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openstackclient/ (it can be a virtualenv) directory so I can directly develop in my environment | 15:09 |
| MaxV | jaosorior: do you think it could be a good idea to document this? | 15:09 |
| dtroyer | MaxV: why are you symlinking into the python lib dirs? | 15:11 |
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| MaxV | dtroyer: In order to develop and do not have to setup.py again | 15:11 |
| MaxV | dtroyer: install* | 15:12 |
| dtroyer | that's what 'pip install -e .' does | 15:12 |
| dtroyer | in the checked-out repo | 15:12 |
| MaxV | dtroyer: is it documented somewhere? | 15:12 |
| dtroyer | in the pip docs, it's called an editable install | 15:13 |
| dtroyer | and elsewhere I'm sure | 15:13 |
| MaxV | dtroyer: don't you think it could be a good idea to explain this in the repo? | 15:13 |
| dtroyer | in every repo in openstack? | 15:13 |
| MaxV | dtroyer: not all repo need the same development environment | 15:14 |
| MaxV | dtroyer: some project does not need to setup.py install in order to test them | 15:14 |
| dtroyer | find an openstack project like that for me? | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cliff: Add value format for list command https://review.openstack.org/182794 | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cliff: Add some docs for list value formatter https://review.openstack.org/182825 | 15:18 |
| MaxV | dtroyer: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/ | 15:19 |
| dtroyer | so do you understand what is different about horizon? | 15:19 |
| MaxV | dtroyer: I did not have dig a lot into the openstackclient code, but a lot of opensource project explain how to install the dev environment | 15:21 |
| MaxV | dtroyer: which is not the case for some openstack project, so newbies (like me) must have to annoy other people to start coding stuff | 15:22 |
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| dtroyer | there is a certain amount of learning about what it is you want to start coding on that is expected, and not all of the 100+ openstack repos are going to include that level of instruction. Using pip to do the setup os by far the most common pattern used in OpenStack projects (Horizon is a Django app and totally different in many ways.) | 15:26 |
| dtroyer | Without knowing what you might have already read, working on OpenStack has a bit of a bar to meet in order to do anything useful. | 15:26 |
| dtroyer | Things like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/development.environment.html go into the details | 15:27 |
| dtroyer | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StartingPage might be useful | 15:28 |
| dtroyer | so might https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Getting_Started | 15:28 |
| MaxV | sorry but still no mention of pip install -e and there is no common pattern on how to install dev envs, maybe you are familiar with this but it is not obvious for everyone | 15:31 |
| MaxV | but I understand that you do not really want this kind of documentation (elitism maybe) so I will stop here | 15:32 |
| mordred | MaxV: it's not that we don't want it | 15:32 |
| mordred | MaxV: it's that we need one copy of it and for projects to point to it -because we have 100s of repos and if we have 100 copies of the instructions, things would quickly go badly | 15:33 |
| mordred | MaxV: so, I thnik we need a link to how to find the dev instructions for sure | 15:33 |
| mordred | MaxV: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/python.html is what you're looking for I believe | 15:34 |
| mordred | those commands should work in every openstack repository | 15:34 |
| MaxV | as long as every project has its requirements and its different patterns I though that some instructions to help new comers could have been interesting | 15:35 |
| mordred | yah. so - there should not be different patterns | 15:36 |
| mordred | we have a consistent interface in every repo for that exact reason | 15:36 |
| mordred | I think we should add a link in the readme to the canonical instructions - becasue you're right - it's important to get good instructions to get started | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Include links to developer workflow documentation https://review.openstack.org/189343 | 15:40 |
| mordred | MaxV: ^^ how's that? | 15:40 |
| MaxV | mordred: as long as you are modifyin this, can you add the IRC channel? I had to ask this information too (maybe I missed an entry) | 15:42 |
| mordred | MaxV: good call | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Include links to developer workflow documentation https://review.openstack.org/189343 | 15:43 |
| MaxV | mordred: thx seems good | 15:44 |
| mordred | \o/ | 15:46 |
| mordred | MaxV: sorry you had issues getting started - totally not our intent | 15:47 |
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| mordred | dtroyer, Shrews: so - I've got a potentially crack-addled patch up to OCC that may warrant discussion | 16:03 |
| mordred | dtroyer, Shrews: basically moving the defaults and vendor data into their own non-python repo so that other languages could also consume the data - but then using bower at tarball build time to copy the data into the occ tarball | 16:04 |
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| Shrews | mordred: yeah, i saw this wackiness yesterday, but haven't dug into it yet. my first thought was, if ksauth wants us, will such an approach be acceptable? | 16:51 |
| mordred | well - it shouldnt make much of a difference to ksauth - in fact, it's consuming json files, so there's no additional external needs | 16:53 |
| mordred | Shrews: taht said - ksauth explicitly does not want the vendor support matrix | 16:53 |
| Shrews | *nod* | 16:54 |
| mordred | however, that doesn't mean it's a good idea | 17:04 |
| mordred | I can convince myself in both directions | 17:04 |
| dtroyer | I'm hesitant to introduce yet another tool that isn't part of my particular toolset. Maybe the data files shouldn't be packaged in the library at all? | 17:24 |
| dtroyer | is bower common enough outside the js world? | 17:25 |
| mordred | nope. not at all | 17:27 |
| mordred | we could also just do a manual copy/sync | 17:27 |
| mordred | like we do for requirements files | 17:27 |
| mordred | or, we could just say "hi, so you're a non-python project, feel free to get these json files from our git repo" | 17:27 |
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