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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add flag to trigger task interface for rackspace https://review.openstack.org/178881 | 00:28 |
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| mordred | dtroyer: ^^ discovered something about rackspace that we need to switch on differently than just v1/v2 | 00:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add flag to trigger task interface for rackspace https://review.openstack.org/178881 | 00:32 |
| mordred | dtroyer: I'd like to get that landed and released - it should be a no-op for anyone else | 00:32 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: welcome to the jungle. I hear that we may have fun and possbly games | 00:34 |
| SpamapS | If you have everything I want, you better be ready to play | 00:35 |
| * SpamapS is now yearning for karaoke | 00:35 | |
| mordred | SpamapS: ++ | 00:35 |
| mordred | SpamapS: oh - I found the most amazing place in NYC for when you visit | 00:35 |
| mordred | SpamapS: korean-style private room karaoke in mid-town | 00:36 |
| SpamapS | I feel a meeting coming on | 00:37 |
| mordred | SpamapS: well, you are east-coast-clint's mentor | 00:38 |
| SpamapS | Also I lurve korean style private room BYOB karaoke as an 11:00pm destination where you just take the good people. :) | 00:38 |
| SpamapS | good as in the people, not the singing. :) | 00:38 |
| SpamapS | the singing must be awful | 00:38 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I may have done Frozen last tie | 00:48 |
| mordred | time | 00:48 |
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| dtroyer | mordred: +A | 01:49 |
| mordred | dtroyer: thanks! | 01:49 |
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| dtroyer | are you going to do the release or do you want me to? either way is fine | 01:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-client-config: Add flag to trigger task interface for rackspace https://review.openstack.org/178881 | 01:53 |
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| Qiming_ | hi, want to set openstacksdk>=0.4.1 in our requirements file, but conflicts found with global requirements which demands openstacksdk>=0.2.1 | 02:30 |
| Qiming_ | so ... what is the protocol to bump the version? Is it okay just to raise a request at global-requirements project? | 02:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Add parent field to project creation https://review.openstack.org/166373 | 03:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Rework shell tests https://review.openstack.org/178932 | 05:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lin Yang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix tiny typo in comment message https://review.openstack.org/178988 | 09:23 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer, congrats :) | 14:13 |
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| dtroyer | on… oh! thanks I was up late last night, doing stevemar hours…just saw the results | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix tiny typo in comment message https://review.openstack.org/178988 | 14:41 |
| bknudson | dtroyer: how does it feel to be a tc? | 14:41 |
| dtroyer | bknudson: not too different from being unemployed, which is also over now too | 14:42 |
| stevemar | bknudson, i imagine it must feel like an elected official -- dtroyer where's your mayoral sash? | 14:45 |
| dtroyer | no sash! I'm not mayor. Unless it comes with the whole Mayor McCheese getup… | 14:46 |
| bknudson | you get to do ribbon cuttings | 14:46 |
| bknudson | do you get to +3? | 14:47 |
| dtroyer | no, but I do get to break out Termie's 'F-It, LGTM' stamp. | 14:48 |
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| terrylhowe | grats dtroyer ! | 14:53 |
| stevemar | one day i hope my dreams of breaking out termies stamp will come true | 14:53 |
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| stevemar | until then, i have my own stamp | 14:53 |
| dtroyer | I think I'm going to stamp the back of my new laptop - although I should probably censor it for the summit | 14:58 |
| dtroyer | terrylhowe: thanks | 14:59 |
| stevemar | dtroyer, maybe opt for a sticker instead? | 15:11 |
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| terrylhowe | https://github.com/fog/fog/pull/3549 Jamie was asking about that last week or something, early morning for him now I think | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Curtin proposed stackforge/python-openstacksdk: Proxy update method https://review.openstack.org/179141 | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Create 1.2.0 release notes https://review.openstack.org/177977 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Create 1.2.0 release notes https://review.openstack.org/177977 | 17:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Use format options for functional tests https://review.openstack.org/178611 | 17:30 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer, if you keep backing up go, eventually you will write everything with go | 18:28 |
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| sigmavirus24 | stevemar: how do you write software with a board game? | 18:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | especially one that doesn't have a way to resolve dependencies? | 18:28 |
| stevemar | hahaa | 18:28 |
| * sigmavirus24 runs away | 18:28 | |
| stevemar | that actually made me laugh | 18:28 |
| dtroyer | sigmavirus24: so just like now? | 18:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | huh? | 18:29 |
| dtroyer | no dep solver… go just moves it from install/run-time to build-time | 18:30 |
| * sigmavirus24 knows | 18:30 | |
| * sigmavirus24 made that joke intentionally | 18:31 | |
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| * dtroyer can't resist repeating the line o' the day | 18:31 | |
| sigmavirus24 | which line is that? | 18:32 |
| dtroyer | the go vs python dep problem… | 18:32 |
| bknudson | is go statically linked? | 18:41 |
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| dtroyer | bknudson: yes | 18:49 |
| dtroyer | no shared libs or anything beyond glibc (on Linux) | 18:49 |
| bknudson | that would definitely remove a lot of problems. | 18:50 |
| dtroyer | I know, right? | 18:50 |
| bknudson | comes with other issues such as having to rebuild / patch the world for a security vulnerability. e.g., if openssl is statically linked. | 18:51 |
| dtroyer | so I've been thinking about that… I want to total up the times that would have been necessary for some recent history, like 1-2 years. | 18:52 |
| dtroyer | vs how much time we spend fighting dep hell now. of course distro packages solve that for a large class of users, but I still have my client hat on here | 18:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | this discussion thoroughly amuses me | 18:53 |
| dtroyer | and a shiny new Windows 8.1 laptop on my desk. installing OSC on it will be trivial in Cygwin, and painful everywhere else | 18:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | especially given the hellfire I came under for defending half-heartedly Kenneth's decision to vendor requests' dependencies | 18:53 |
| dtroyer | sigmavirus24: frankly I like that he did that | 18:54 |
| dtroyer | what lesson has real-world Java deployments taught us? | 18:54 |
| sigmavirus24 | don't use java | 18:54 |
| * sigmavirus24 is really punchy today. sorry | 18:54 | |
| dtroyer | heh, besides that … big apps even come with an entire JRE | 18:54 |
| dtroyer | that's basically what OSC on Windows has to do to get the install to a sane point | 18:56 |
| stevemar | o/ | 19:00 |
| sigmavirus24 | dtroyer: have you looked at PEX? | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | dhellmann pointed me at it the other day, looks promising if it handles setuptools entry points | 19:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | I don't know if that's something anyone's ever used it with | 19:02 |
| dtroyer | all of the other tools like that (py2exe and friends) don't do it at all | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Create 1.2.0 release notes https://review.openstack.org/177977 | 20:07 |
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| sigmavirus24 | dtroyer: question when you have a second | 22:18 |
| dtroyer | sigmavirus24: goferit | 22:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | Have you tried packaging osc as a zip executable (using python's zipfile support)? | 22:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | That's really all PEX is + dep bundling iirc | 22:19 |
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| dtroyer | That's what I asked Ddoug about the other day, I just found it that it exists. that's when he pointed me to pex | 22:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | So I think it'll allow you to use entry-points without needing to consider deps, but I'm not 100% certain the zip file support includes supporting entry-points | 22:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | ah okay | 22:20 |
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| sigmavirus24 | nevermind then | 22:20 |
| * sigmavirus24 expected you to have more experience with that for some reason | 22:21 | |
| dtroyer | I spent a couple of weeks a while back trying to package OSC in py2exe and (can't remember which) at least two others. Some looked really good, and worked fine without the entry points. That's the killer here. | 22:22 |
| dtroyer | it seems like it should be a solvable problem, at least for a certain subset of use cases | 22:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Amey Bhide proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Minor fix to openstack image show command https://review.openstack.org/179295 | 23:41 |
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