Tuesday, 2014-12-09

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openstackgerritKazuki OIKAWA proposed openstack/sahara-extra: Add main function wrapper for edp.java.adapt_for_oozie config  https://review.openstack.org/13952208:18
openstackgerritKazuki OIKAWA proposed openstack/sahara: Add edp.java.adapt_for_oozie config for Java Action  https://review.openstack.org/11588408:20
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openstackgerritDenis Egorenko proposed stackforge/sahara-ci-config: Temporary disable heat for hdp2  https://review.openstack.org/14028510:06
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openstackgerritKazuki OIKAWA proposed openstack/sahara: Add edp.java.adapt_for_oozie config for Java Action  https://review.openstack.org/11588412:04
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mattfSergeyLukjanov, sreshetnyak, ping re centos images12:31
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SergeyLukjanovmattf, hey, what's up?12:56
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openstackgerritDenis Egorenko proposed stackforge/sahara-ci-config: Rename all jobs  https://review.openstack.org/13995612:59
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mattfSergeyLukjanov, the centos folks created http://cloud.centos.org/centos/6/images/ for us13:22
SergeyLukjanovmattf, oh, that's great13:23
mattfit has centos6 cloud-init images13:23
SergeyLukjanovmattf, sounds like we should move to using them13:23
SergeyLukjanovyay!13:23
mattfkb is keen to make sure they work for us w/ sahara13:23
mattfso they'll rev them quickly w/ fixes we need13:23
SergeyLukjanovmattf, ack13:23
SergeyLukjanovmattf, sreshetnyak is on vacation this and next week13:24
mattfis there anyone who typically runs through https://github.com/openstack/sahara-image-elements/blob/master/diskimage-create/Create_CentOS_cloud_image.rst available to test this week?13:24
SergeyLukjanovmattf, I'll try to find someone to check13:24
mattfgr813:24
mattfif there are any issues at all ping me and i'll connect folks w/ kb13:24
mattfSergeyLukjanov, also, kb mentioned we should try and use the .xz compressed versions13:25
mattfgerrit needs a recheck button that shows up as an action on the search/dashboard pages13:27
mattfmaybe even a recheck-all13:27
* mattf grins13:27
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tellesnobregaSergeyLukjanov, yesterday was a holiday here in brazil, so i only got to see that storm is part of sahara today. thanks for approving it14:23
openstackgerritAndrey Pavlov proposed openstack/sahara-image-elements: Adding ability to build images for Hadoop 2.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/13839114:23
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SergeyLukjanovtellesnobrega, thx for implementing it :)14:28
SergeyLukjanovtellesnobrega, so, there were a few comments, considering them as recomendations for further improvements14:28
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tellesnobregaSergeyLukjanov, i saw them. I will work on them asap14:32
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openstackgerritDenis Egorenko proposed stackforge/sahara-ci-config: Rename all jobs  https://review.openstack.org/13995615:00
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openstackgerritKen Chen proposed openstack/sahara-specs: Add more services into CDH  https://review.openstack.org/13957415:02
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openstackgerritAndrey Pavlov proposed openstack/sahara-image-elements: Adding ability to build images for Hadoop 2.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/13839115:17
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openstackgerritDenis Egorenko proposed stackforge/sahara-ci-config: Rename all jobs  https://review.openstack.org/13995615:48
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openstackgerritAndrey Pavlov proposed openstack/sahara: Adding Hadoop 2.6.0 support to Vanilla plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14039016:04
openstackgerritDenis Egorenko proposed stackforge/sahara-ci-config: Rename all jobs  https://review.openstack.org/13995616:17
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tmckayelmiko, question for you on the substituion semantics16:27
tmckaymy original thought was to keep the job exec unaltered, so that when it is retrieved from the db the fields are unaltered16:28
tmckaybut the proxy user stuff is done up front, based on the presence of paths in the job exec16:28
tmckayso if the substitution happens early, it's cleaner16:29
elmikook16:29
elmikoi think the proxy stuff just wants the job_exec id16:30
tmckayin order to preserve the record unaltered, we have to do the resolution twice, or do it once and stash the resolution in job_configs in additional dict entries16:30
tmckayelmiko, opinion?  If you submitted a job and used the subst feature, what would you expect to see when you read it back?16:30
tmckayresolved paths, or the original args that reference data sources by name or id?16:31
elmikotmckay: as a user, i would expect to see whatever i entered originally16:31
elmikonow, i could see that changing if i went to some page that showed the job execution as it was sent to the cluster16:32
elmikobut, if i went to the job page, where i entered the configs, i would expect the un-integrated form16:33
tmckayokay.  I'll do the resolution and stash it in an extra field, and filter it in the resource return (like proxy config)16:33
elmikocool16:33
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tmckayI don't think we have an "as submitted" view -- that's more like job logs, or the oozie console16:34
tmckayhmm, well, it does auto fill some stuff when using the standard input/output sources16:34
elmikoit might make sense to show the substituted values in a job execution, but show the original form on the job page. does that make sense?16:38
tmckaythese values will only be in the job execution, though.  They don't exist in the job.  They're specified at submission time.16:39
tmckaythere's really no reason the subst values couldn't be passed back, too.  It will just show paths instead of names16:40
tmckayI don't believe it would break anything16:41
elmikogot it16:41
tmckaythen you can have your cake and eat it too16:41
elmikoi think for debug purposes there needs to be someway to see both forms, pre-sub and post16:41
elmikonot sure how to display it though16:41
tmckayI'm thinking of job_configs fields like this: substituted_args (copy of full arg list with changes), substituted_configs (dict, just those that changed), substituted_params(dict, just those that changed)16:43
tmckayif there are no substitutions they won't be there16:43
tmckayUI could display them or not16:43
tmckayI wonder what the CLI does with job_configs ...16:44
elmikonot sure16:44
tmckaywell, whether to report or not is a secondary issue.  It can still work.16:44
tmckaydidn't realize this would get this thorny :)16:45
tmckaytrying very hard to keep the semantics unchanged re precedence16:47
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elmikoyea, it seemed like this would be kinda squirrely16:55
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tmckayelmiko, one more question on this, since I'm looking at it.  The way the semantics are now, if a user explicitly specifies swift_username, swift_password, swift_trustid, or swift_domain_name in their job execution that field (or fields) will not be replaced by Sahara.  But you really need all 4 as set by Sahara for it to work.17:07
tmckayShould we try to prevent that, or at least log a warning?17:08
elmikoi don't think you need swift_trustid and swift_domain_name, if you are using a username/password that exist in the current project it will work17:09
elmikoso, if the user exists in the current context project then the swift-hadoop bridge will be able to produce a token17:10
tmckayI mean in the case where you've got proxy users set up.  If I submitted a job exec say with just swift_user specified, I would break the execution.17:10
elmikoyes17:11
elmikoin that case, it probably would be nice to error early instead of having to read the logs to figure out that auth failed in the cluster17:11
elmikobut, i would think if you are specifying those values yourself, that you have created the proxy user which means you are waaaay into power user territory17:12
tmckayright.  I'm wondering if we can define an inconsistent subset, and warn if the user submits that17:13
tmckayI would think that messing up any one of the 4 could break it17:14
tmckaymaybe a subject for another CR17:14
elmiko+1 to adding another CR17:14
tmckayelmiko, also in this I am trying to preserve the creation of the proxy info early, in service/api.  Would there be a problem with creating it in the job_manager?17:16
tmckayso, in run_job instead of up front17:16
elmikohmm17:17
tmckayjust considering options.  It might save the extra fields17:17
tmckaybut I don't want to be too disruptive17:17
elmikoi'd need to think about it and go through the proceedure again.17:17
tmckayk, I'll keep it as is.  Once I have something working maybe I can try moving it17:18
tmckayI think that's all on this topic :)17:18
elmikocool17:18
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crobertsrhtmckay:  working on the template editing spec right now.  It may need some more detail input for the service portion.  I hope to send it up soon.18:18
crobertsrhAlso.  If anyone cares to do horizon reviews, the filtering change is up (and has been for awhile).  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136459/18:19
tmckaycrobertsrh, thanks18:20
crobertsrhFor adding detail, feel free to just grab it and edit it rather than large comments that I'd just copy/paste.18:21
crobertsrhwon't hurt my feelings18:21
openstackgerritTelles Mota Vidal Nóbrega proposed openstack/sahara: Removing unecessary check  https://review.openstack.org/14042418:23
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tmckaycrobertsrh, "For adding detail, feel free to just grab it and edit it rather than large comments", what is "it"?  The template editing spec18:42
tmckay?18:42
crobertsrhyes18:42
tmckaycrobertsrh, okay, I'll wait until it doesn't say WIP :)18:44
crobertsrhFair enough18:44
tmckayactually, the spec isn't there yet, is it?18:44
crobertsrhNope18:44
crobertsrhit's trul a WIP18:44
crobertsrhtruly18:44
elmikotruly?18:45
crobertsrhdoh18:45
crobertsrhreally18:45
tmckayhe's coming to vancouver too18:45
tmckaypmackinn is still giving me grief for that18:45
tmckayVan Couver that is18:46
crobertsrhRelated to Van Halen, no doubt18:46
tmckayyes, that's where they were originally from18:46
crobertsrhHe can help us translate all that Canadian jargon too18:46
elmikolol18:46
elmikoand help us build our foursome for the spiel ;)18:47
tmckaywhich side of the road do they drive on?18:47
crobertsrhExactly18:47
crobertsrhThe top side, of course18:47
crobertsrhI think it's only the southern hemisphere where they drive on the bottom18:47
tmckayheh18:47
elmikolol18:47
crobertsrhAs long as the real Canadians don't show up, we should win the Openstack bonspiel18:48
elmikooooh, that could be a thing18:49
crobertsrhObviously, drinks would be included18:50
elmikojust need to get brooke to make a contrib for kilo18:50
crobertsrhNo dog pictures, please18:50
elmikolol18:50
crobertsrhAlthough, when you +2 +merge it with great stealth, I'll know what's up18:50
elmikohaha18:51
elmikoyou should really get worried if i try to start a new project named "kennel" or something ;018:51
crobertsrhHeh.  A new project that exists solely for you to get your friends to gather at each summit.18:52
elmikolol18:52
elmikovery popular18:52
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crobertsrhAlthough, Sahara barely made it into official incubation.  "Kennel" had better be very convincing.18:53
elmikoi'm gonna wait till the "big tent" arrives, much easier to get accepted18:53
tmckaykennel, it's where the BigData Dogs hang out19:12
openstackgerritChad Roberts proposed openstack/sahara-specs: Spec for template editing  https://review.openstack.org/14044819:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/sahara: Removing unecessary check  https://review.openstack.org/14042420:43
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