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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: microversion_parse: convert to singlespec https://review.opendev.org/657593 | 03:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: Use https for tarball.o.org https://review.opendev.org/657655 | 08:20 |
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toabctl | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 12:31 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed May 8 12:31:13 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is toabctl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:31 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:31 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:31 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 12:31 |
toabctl | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof, ykarel, cmurphy | 12:31 |
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jpena | o/ | 12:31 |
toabctl | as usual, please add your agenda points to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 12:32 |
dirk | o/ | 12:33 |
toabctl | #topic rpo-packaging and rpm-packaging? | 12:35 |
*** openstack changes topic to "rpo-packaging and rpm-packaging? (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:35 | |
toabctl | that's my topic | 12:35 |
toabctl | jpena, are there any plan to use rpm-packaging for RDO? | 12:35 |
toabctl | iirc we discussed that in the past but I think there was no progress or any plan to use rpm-packaging. did that change? | 12:36 |
jpena | toabctl: currently not. I've raised the topic a few times in the community, and there seems to be no interest to converge | 12:36 |
jpena | there's interest in the tool side (renderspec and others), but not for now in the specs | 12:36 |
toabctl | jpena, hm. anything we could do about that? what's the blocker? | 12:36 |
jpena | I've never got a definitive answer on that. It usually comes down to the effort required to migrate, plus "it works now" | 12:38 |
toabctl | hm. ok | 12:38 |
toabctl | anything else on that topic? | 12:39 |
jpena | nothing from my side | 12:39 |
toabctl | #topic starlingx and rpm-packaging | 12:39 |
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toabctl | is that yours, dirk? | 12:39 |
dirk | yes | 12:39 |
dirk | so far as a heads up | 12:39 |
dirk | there was a bit of discussion with sgw from starlingx team at the PTG in denver | 12:40 |
dirk | they're in principle interested in re-using some of the rpm-packaging tooling for achieving easier/more portable builds of their packaging | 12:40 |
dirk | especially if it solves their need for ubuntu s upport | 12:40 |
dirk | I kinda don't see a way to achieve that other than extending + fixing pymod2pkg for the ubuntu distro | 12:41 |
dirk | I started a bit cleaning up their spec files and then we ran out of time | 12:41 |
dirk | (there are open reviews). sgw and I want to do a more in-depth poc over the next few days | 12:41 |
dirk | any questions? | 12:41 |
jpena | there was some ubuntu support in pymod2pkg | 12:42 |
dirk | slightly related to that I believe there was some discussion with colleen at the summit about cross-packaging with/for debian | 12:42 |
jpena | I guess it needs some maintenance | 12:42 |
dirk | I don't know the exact details of that as I wasn't there | 12:42 |
toabctl | how would pymod2pkg support for ubuntu help? we would need debian/rules and friends files. | 12:43 |
dirk | jpena: right, I think its there, but we just need to use it in a real context to find the bugs | 12:43 |
jpena | dirk: sure | 12:43 |
toabctl | and debian & ubuntu usually use the same package names. so there is imo no need for pymod2pkg support for ubuntu | 12:44 |
toabctl | or am I missing something? | 12:44 |
dirk | that is true, a lot of the needs for renderspec isn't there (also use the same license tags) | 12:44 |
toabctl | to have cross distro support - we would need a meta format that can render to rpm specs (in suse/fedora flavor) and debian/* files. | 12:45 |
dirk | I believe this goes back to the ideas of having an externally defined yaml for managing the dependencies and "expanding" them into a debian specific format as well as spec files | 12:45 |
toabctl | yes | 12:45 |
dirk | yep, and there is some competing technology for that already in the market | 12:46 |
dirk | I might not have time for this going forward, but if there is interest I signed up on the etherpad to connect the dots | 12:48 |
toabctl | ok | 12:49 |
toabctl | anything else on that topic? | 12:49 |
dirk | nope | 12:50 |
dirk | ah, maybe one thing: I noticed that the renderspec documentation needs a bit of work | 12:51 |
dirk | like e.g. a minimal walk through of how to create a spec.j2 | 12:51 |
dirk | and how to call it from commandline | 12:51 |
dirk | I have this somewhere on todo | 12:51 |
toabctl | #topic open floor | 12:55 |
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toabctl | anything else? | 12:55 |
dirk | do we want to discuss a bit the python 3.x switch? | 12:56 |
dirk | my understanding is that RHEL8 got released, so can we switch the CI to rhel8 instead of rhel7 and go with python 3.x only? | 12:57 |
dirk | I recently started looking ath SLE15 enablement whcih is python 3.6 and would like to strip out python 2.x asap | 12:57 |
toabctl | I guess the next step would be to convert the services we have to python3 only. | 12:58 |
dirk | yeah, its half-way done | 12:59 |
dirk | currently building a python 3.x openstack placement | 12:59 |
jpena | we'll need to wait until centos 8 is available (I've seen the first commits in git.centos.org), since rhel8 itself is not available without a subscription | 12:59 |
dirk | although I was wondering if we want a shorthand over py2pkg('foo', py_versions=py3) | 12:59 |
dirk | perhaps py3pkg('foo') ? | 12:59 |
toabctl | hm. then py2pkg would be missleading | 13:00 |
toabctl | but I agree that a shorthand would be nice | 13:01 |
toabctl | anything else? | 13:04 |
* toabctl has to leave soon | 13:04 | |
dirk | nope | 13:05 |
toabctl | ok. thanks everybody | 13:06 |
toabctl | #endmeeting | 13:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging - Regular IRC Meeting Wednesdays 1:00 PM UTC in openstack-rpm-packaging" | 13:06 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 8 13:06:31 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:06 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2019/rpm_packaging.2019-05-08-12.31.html | 13:06 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2019/rpm_packaging.2019-05-08-12.31.txt | 13:06 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2019/rpm_packaging.2019-05-08-12.31.log.html | 13:06 |
openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: [WIP] OpenStack Placement Service https://review.opendev.org/657801 | 13:21 |
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sgw | dirk: Morning and thanks for bringing up the starlingx work you and I did, just to update you, I think we are going to start with cleaning up a copy of our CentOS specfiles (in parallel) and then consider converting to templates. | 13:57 |
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