| opendevreview | Merged openstack/requirements master: Add python-consul2 to global requirements https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/917828 | 04:30 |
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| opendevreview | Jens Harbott proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/922558 | 06:20 |
| frickler | tonyb: prometheanfire: ^^ we really need someone to look at all the non-upgradeable libs, make dedicated patches to track those and nag projects to fix their issues. like this would almost have re-done the broken oslo.log bump | 06:24 |
| tonyb | frickler: I'd be happy to merge something to global-requirements to exclude the broken versions of things. | 06:45 |
| tonyb | frickler: If you update the https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/requirements-blockers etherpad with a slightly more verbose version of the commit message from 922558 I/We can work on adding the required caps to make generate constraints work better | 06:47 |
| frickler | tonyb: well except for oslo.log, IMO these aren't broken things, but progress that openstack needs to adapt to. so permanently excluding new versions isn't the right path forward | 07:08 |
| frickler | the problem is that with u-c in place, projects don't easily learn about the need to adapt, so likely someone needs to tell them | 07:09 |
| frickler | and I also really would like to see myself needing to invest less work into this | 07:11 |
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| tonyb | frickler: Well we can for sure add the exclusion of oslo.log as a step one. | 07:42 |
| tonyb | In terms of getting things to a place where you can invest less time in this. do you have any suggestions. | 07:43 |
| tonyb | I'm kinda half seeing a process where we are "less protective" early in the cycle and let disruptive changes through, and then switch to something closer to what we're doing now | 07:47 |
| tonyb | I'd like to modify the process we use for constraints generation to a) make it handle multiple pythons better which is in progress ; b) make it easier and less of a public contract to block updates to save the painful week to week manual updates that you need to do ; and c) (optional) remove the xfails stuff which doesn't seem helpful anymore | 07:49 |
| tonyb | frickler, prometheanfire: I'd be keen to set up a couple of dedicated times to talk through the the constraints process pain-points and improvements we want to make | 07:54 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/requirements master: update constraint for openstacksdk to new release 3.3.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/924226 | 08:06 |
| frickler | doing some meeting to talk this through sounds like a good idea, let's try to find some overlap in our timezones. for me between 5 - 18 UTC would be good, a bit later might still be possible if needed | 09:28 |
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