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| tonyb | So I broke the constraints bot as it doesn't work on bionic, so Once I get to the bottom of it (which at this point just looks like bindep) I'll post change(s) to fix it, which I don't think need FFEs for but we can discuss that when we see what they look like | 00:58 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: ya, probably fine, like doug put on the etherpad, I think we are mostly past the FFE stuff in reqs | 01:38 |
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| tonyb | cool, given what I have on my plate it'll probably be tomorrow befoer I look at it really. | 01:39 |
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| tonyb | unless these backports got really well | 01:39 |
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| abhishekk-mbl | Hi, can anyone approve this patch, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587644/ | 02:45 |
| abhishekk-mbl | FFE has been approved for this and has one +2, | 02:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/requirements master: Fixed "pip-install" test https://review.openstack.org/587304 | 02:57 |
| tonyb | http://paste.openstack.org/show/727010/ shows ^^ now works on both py2 and py3 | 02:58 |
| tonyb | can we stop talking about it now? | 02:59 |
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| tonyb | abhishekk-mbl: done | 03:02 |
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| abhishekk-mbl | tonyb: thank you | 03:03 |
| tonyb | abhishekk-mbl: np, good luck with it all ;P | 03:03 |
| abhishekk-mbl | :D | 03:04 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: yep :D | 03:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kobi Samoray proposed openstack/requirements master: Add Octavia to global requirements https://review.openstack.org/587836 | 14:21 |
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| smcginnis | prometheanfire: I sent out a FFE to the mailing list for python-cinderclient. | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: We have a critical bug there. Fix is merging now I think. | 15:15 |
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| prometheanfire | k | 15:30 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: uc bump only? | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: It probably would be best if we blacklisted the 4.0.0 release, but u-c bump will at least get things passing again. | 15:32 |
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| prometheanfire | smcginnis: ya, if that's the case then there are many projects that'd need updating | 15:37 |
| smcginnis | OK, let's just go with the u-c bump then. We can block it in Stein. | 15:38 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: make todo/bug then for tracking | 15:39 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/KbTt5T7cyaSqXmd4c32Q/ | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | Wow, I had no idea so many other projects were using that. | 15:40 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 15:42 |
| prometheanfire | bunch of 'minor' projects | 15:43 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: Where do you think I should file a bug? | 15:45 |
| prometheanfire | sec | 15:47 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: so, is this only hit when trying to use the new feature? | 15:47 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: you think that we don't need re-releases for clients for the requirements updates? | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: No, it breaks a common feature we've had around since API v1. | 15:48 |
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| prometheanfire | good | 15:48 |
| prometheanfire | (about the announce) | 15:49 |
| smcginnis | An API microversion handling was applied incorrectly so that the existing functionality would no longer work without using the higher MV. | 15:49 |
| prometheanfire | ok | 15:49 |
| prometheanfire | to me it sounds like we need the != in global-reqs for it | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | That would be bests. | 15:51 |
| prometheanfire | not sure about syncing it out and doing re-releases | 15:51 |
| prometheanfire | I can approve the main FFE though | 15:51 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: Would we actually need re-releases? They should just pick up the raise u-c right? | 15:52 |
| prometheanfire | it should imo, the question is if we want that exclusion sync'd out and if it's sync'd out if we need a release | 15:54 |
| prometheanfire | I think that would be 'most' correct, but not necessarilly necessary | 15:54 |
| smcginnis | Horizon and OSC are probably the only consumers that use this functionality. It impacted the "volume-transfer" handling. | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : we don't usually raise the minimum version of a dependency for a bug fix, right? | 15:56 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: this would be for syncing the exclusion out | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure we need to sync the exclusion to all consumers, but it sounds like maybe we want to add it to horizon before their rc1 and osc as a bug fix | 15:57 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: I'll let you decide which consumers would need the full treatment | 15:57 |
| smcginnis | Those are the only two that I'm aware of at this point, but I'll take another look through that list from your paste. | 15:57 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: doesn't the reqs job fail if there is an exclusion mismatch? | 15:58 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: I removed charm and fuel repos from my paste btw | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | the exclusions in a project are allowed to be a subset of the exclusions in the global list; they don't have to match exactly | 15:58 |
| prometheanfire | ok, so they could be 'nothing' | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | I did it that way specifically to make this case less work :-) | 15:58 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: yarp | 15:59 |
| dhellmann | yes | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | Good thinking. :) | 15:59 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: that's what had me worried :D | 15:59 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: so, I'll let you decide on re-releasing osc/horizon (since both are 'libs' for other things iirc) | 15:59 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we should probably spend some time going over those rules at the ptg to make sure everyone understands how it works now | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: ++ | 16:00 |
| prometheanfire | ya, we each had our own ideas on how it'd work and now that it's been done it's confusing a bit | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I didn't do a great job of documenting all of that | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for python-cinderclient to new release 4.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/587875 | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/requirements master: Blacklist python-cinderclient 4.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/587877 | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: update constraint for python-cinderclient to new release 4.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/587875 | 19:58 |
| tonyb | meeting? | 20:33 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 20:39 |
| * tonyb reads scrollback, I feel like we should include blocking 4.0.0 in g-r as part of the FFE, it'll send a clear signal to vendors to *NOT* package that version and make it trivial for projects to also block it. | 20:43 | |
| tonyb | Oh look https://review.openstack.org/587877 | 20:43 |
| tonyb | *sigh* more coffee | 20:43 |
| * tonyb assumes prometheanfire forgot | 20:44 | |
| tonyb | not that there is a great deal to discuss at this stage anyway | 20:44 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: ya :| | 20:50 |
| prometheanfire | we can still do a short one | 20:50 |
| prometheanfire | looks like the person that tried to add octavia to reqs backed down | 20:51 |
| prometheanfire | other than that, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-PTG-requirements as posted | 20:51 |
| tonyb | adding octavia to reqs? | 20:52 |
| tonyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587836/ I see it now | 20:53 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 20:53 |
| prometheanfire | oh, it's still there :| | 20:53 |
| tonyb | Yeah, I can't see a good reason to do that but perhaps there is one | 20:54 |
| tonyb | I guess we let the discussion bi=ubble along and see what happens | 20:54 |
| tonyb | I added some thoughts to the PTG etherpad | 20:55 |
| tonyb | I haven't looked to see if you replied yet | 20:55 |
| prometheanfire | I added a yesplease to removing eventlet | 20:56 |
| prometheanfire | that'd be better than dealing with all these updates (or lack thereof) | 20:56 |
| prometheanfire | you and doug picked almost identical colours... | 20:57 |
| tonyb | etherpad pickd the color | 20:57 |
| tonyb | I don't really know that we can remove eventlet until after U when we get to python3-only | 20:58 |
| tonyb | I'm also mostly okay with the limited pain we deal with now and can put up with it until then. | 20:58 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 20:59 |
| tonyb | I'd like to really think about what per-project reqs and stable branches means but I don't think that can really wait until the PTG. | 21:00 |
| tonyb | so perhaps next week we could try to do a deep-dive on that in the meeting timeslot | 21:00 |
| tonyb | kinda need dhellmann to be here, and possibly more than 30mins. | 21:01 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 21:01 |
| * tonyb would be okay with a one off meeting starting 30mins early | 21:01 | |
| dhellmann | I can do that | 21:03 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: cool. | 21:04 |
| dhellmann | I don't know anything about removing eventlet, though. I don't see that as a natural fallout of the py3 change. | 21:04 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: less of a natural fallout more of a "we have more options" once we get to py3 | 21:05 |
| dhellmann | do we? | 21:05 |
| dhellmann | asyncio is a *very* different thing, and would require rewriting apps basically from scratch | 21:05 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: I thought so, but maybe I'm really wrong. | 21:05 |
| dhellmann | now that most of the services do wsgi, we should be able to rely on it to manage connections and we should be able to just use regular threads for concurrency | 21:06 |
| dhellmann | so it ought to be possible to strip eventlet out of a project, but I don't know anyone other than the telemetry team that has done significant work on that sort of thing | 21:07 |
| tonyb | Yeah I think it's one of those things that is painful, but not quite painful enough to rip the band aid off | 21:07 |
| tonyb | a little like deprecation warnings, not actually meaning we migrat to the new API ;p | 21:08 |
| dhellmann | heh | 21:08 |
| tonyb | This was good even if it wasn't quite a meeting. | 21:09 |
| * tonyb goes AFK to see the kids befoer school ... be back in 60-90 | 21:10 | |
| prometheanfire | :D | 21:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Blacklist python-cinderclient 4.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/587877 | 22:18 |
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