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| dims | looks like the gate has calmed down | 00:51 |
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| armax | ttx: the gate seems relatively ok now | 04:38 |
| armax | ttx: these are ready to roll if you fell clement: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234426/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232270/ | 04:39 |
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| ttx | armax: those are the only two needed ? | 06:37 |
| ttx | for all of neutron* | 06:37 |
| ttx | feels like it | 06:44 |
| ttx | ok, let's do this | 06:44 |
| ttx | armax: rc3 opened with above patches in | 06:52 |
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| sdague | morning folks | 09:26 |
| sdague | how's the release looking, and is there anything I can do to help? | 09:27 |
| ttx | sdague: morning! finalizing the Neutron respin | 09:27 |
| ttx | that should be the last one | 09:27 |
| sdague | great | 09:27 |
| ttx | we still have a potential ironic point release | 09:28 |
| ttx | haven't heard from jroll so not sure they can make it today | 09:28 |
| sdague | gotcha | 09:31 |
| sdague | procedural question, why is the .gitreview not updated until after the release? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234205/ | 09:32 |
| ttx | sdague: mostly an oversight. we pushed most of them already | 09:32 |
| sdague | ok, gotcha | 09:32 |
| ttx | I blocked it to reduce the load | 09:32 |
| sdague | yep, no worries | 09:32 |
| sdague | I just went around in circles for about 10 minutes building that omnibus patch, until I realized git review was rebasing to master on push :) | 09:33 |
| ttx | I'm surprised it fell through the cracks, ISTR Doug pushed all of them at once | 09:33 |
| sdague | yeh, I went looking for an extant review before I pushed it | 09:33 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/file:%255E.gitreview+project:openstack/nova,n,z | 09:34 |
| sdague | didn't see one | 09:34 |
| dims_ | good morning sdague and ttx | 10:02 |
| dims_ | ttx: saw this from jroll https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234504/ | 10:03 |
| ttx | dims_: yeah, he is supposed to fix an upgrade issue too before unW-1 his releases patch | 10:03 |
| ttx | but time is running out | 10:03 |
| dims_ | ack thanks ttx | 10:04 |
| ttx | making direct releases is all efficient and agile, but you better have decent QA to back those up | 10:04 |
| ttx | if you don't, stick to RCs and the test of time | 10:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Revert "Fix docs build by blocking bad oslosphinx version" https://review.openstack.org/234307 | 10:05 |
| ttx | #success No more Liberty RCs in the pipe. Phew. | 10:06 |
| openstackstatus | ttx: Added success to Success page | 10:06 |
| dims_ | :) | 10:09 |
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| ttx | smcginnis: looks like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty#OpenStack_Block_Storage_.28Cinder.29 could use some extra love | 11:59 |
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| smcginnis | thingee: ^^ Did you have anything prepped for that? | 12:21 |
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| jroll | ttx: so, we're going to skip the upgrades fix. there's going to be a break either way, and the current break is easier to understand/fix downstream | 13:12 |
| jroll | ttx: it was a break in our driver API behavior for out-of-tree drivers, not sure of a great way to test that in CI... | 13:12 |
| jroll | so all that is to say, once those patches you +W'd land, we'll be good to release | 13:12 |
| * jroll assumes release notes don't need to go to stable branch | 13:13 | |
| ttx | jroll: do you need a new release if you skip the upgrade fix? | 13:24 |
| * ttx looks up the changes in the queue | 13:24 | |
| jroll | ttx: yeah, we had a couple fixes in there | 13:24 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234389/ would be the only significant change and it doesn't even have a proper bug :) | 13:25 |
| ttx | or maybe you have more from where it came from | 13:25 |
| jroll | also, translations | 13:25 |
| * ttx checks the log | 13:25 | |
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| jroll | doesn't have a proper bug? | 13:26 |
| ttx | hmm 4.2.1 then ? | 13:26 |
| jroll | yep | 13:26 |
| ttx | oh,n that Related-Bug should be Closed-Bug | 13:26 |
| ttx | ok then | 13:26 |
| ttx | jroll: just push the openstack/releases change when things merge and i'll make that happen | 13:27 |
| jroll | ttx: yep, will do | 13:27 |
| ttx | we might want a 4.2.1 page in LP | 13:27 |
| * ttx creates that | 13:27 | |
| jroll | it's a related-bug because that code is transitioning to ironic-lib and also need a fix there :) | 13:27 |
| jroll | something like that, anyway | 13:28 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/4.2.1 if you want to target bugs to it | 13:28 |
| * jroll feels bad for not seeing that earlier | 13:28 | |
| jroll | thanks. will do. | 13:28 |
| jroll | (oh, that referred to the same bug. sigh.) | 13:30 |
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| dhellmann | ttx, sdague : did I miss a .gitreview patch? | 14:20 |
| dims | dhellmann: this one? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/liberty/.gitreview | 14:22 |
| dhellmann | dims: yeah, I think that's what they meant | 14:22 |
| dhellmann | the branch script should be submitting those automatically, I wonder why nova didn't get one | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | I don't remember if I made the nova branch or not | 14:23 |
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| sdague | yeh, I don't know, I noticed it when trying to build that rc3 patch | 14:34 |
| sdague | and I did a gerrit search and didn't find any outstanding patches that did the same thing | 14:35 |
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| dims | sdague: dhellmann: all nice and quiet on zuul :) | 14:50 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: are you a moderator for openstack-dev? | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | ttx: apparently my email coping all PTLs is held because of too many recipients | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/releases: release keystoneclient and keystonemiddleware https://review.openstack.org/234835 | 15:18 |
| ttx | dhellmann: i approved it already | 15:18 |
| * dhellmann looks at the archives again | 15:18 | |
| dhellmann | ttx: clearly I need more tea today | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | thanks | 15:19 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: i got your email | 15:19 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I also created skeleton etherpad for relmgt sessions at the summit | 15:19 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: dims releases to unwedge the keystone gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234835/ | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: good, t hanks | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ok, good | 15:20 |
| dims | stevemar_: cross my fingers :) | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: ack - dims are you doing those? | 15:21 |
| dims | dhellmann: no, please go ahead. was just commenting :) | 15:21 |
| * dims has broken enough for this week! | 15:22 | |
| dims | dhellmann: heads up, we were close to getting a fix out for oslo.messaging, mdbooth had some concerns, working through that now. (ceilometer unit test failure) | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | dims: ack on both | 15:23 |
| armax | ttx: thanks! | 15:24 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: we may have a late ironic 4.2.1 to tag later today | 15:25 |
| ttx | if the patches made it through gate | 15:26 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we don't really have a script to do point release for services from stable branches yet | 15:26 |
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| ttx | the intermediary.sh is a bit optimized for tagging and closing bugs on master | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: can you go ahead and submit the constraint updates for those releases and link them in a comment in the release request? | 15:27 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: i can | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | ttx: the intermediate script doesn't work there? I guess maybe it does things to milestones that we don't want? | 15:27 |
| ttx | so it may require a bit of manual work | 15:27 |
| ttx | yeah so I expect it to (1) tag on master and (2) turn fixcommitted bugs into Fixreleased (which we don't want since that would catch extra bugs) | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: thanks, I just sent an announcement about that new policy to the ML | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, the library script skips the bug step on stable branches | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | ttx: another thing that gets simpler when we move to reno | 15:29 |
| ttx | given the depth of the queue, if those ironic things merge it will be very late today and i'll be gone | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/releases: release keystoneclient and keystonemiddleware https://review.openstack.org/234835 | 15:30 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234255/ and it's in the commit msg | 15:30 |
| stevemar_ | of the releases change | 15:30 |
| ttx | dhellmann: which I guess raises the question of release collision. How late can we accept the ironic point release and make it part of "the release" | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: ty | 15:30 |
| ttx | dhellmann: are we ok with tagging it tomorrow ? | 15:31 |
| ttx | (it's a new case, never happened before) | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, the big bang release is fuzzy with intermediary projects | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | what are the down sides to accepting it today or tomorrow? distros might not pick it up right away? | 15:32 |
| ttx | dhellmann: hmm, no | 15:32 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the only drawback I see is that if it's completely crappy we have to room left to respin | 15:32 |
| ttx | i.e. we included utter crap in "the release" | 15:33 |
| ttx | so it's a limited risk | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | and I guess it's hard to say "use an older version" | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | how critical is the fix in the queue? | 15:33 |
| ttx | if the alternative is to issue the point release on Friday... it's not really worse basically | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I was originally ready to do it asap but I think waiting for friday is the right move to make it clear it's a point release | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | we may want to formalize that in the example release schedule | 15:34 |
| ttx | no, my point is.. tagging Thursday or Friday is equivalent on the "oh we released crap" front | 15:36 |
| ttx | so we can retag on Thursday | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: oh, you didn't need to update the commit message, a comment on the review would have been fine. | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | ttx: hmm. I guess with it so close together, that's true. | 15:36 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: meh, as long as you're OK with it, i like that it appears in the history | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: either way is fine :-) | 15:36 |
| ttx | the ironic changes are around 234389,3, #21 in gate | 15:37 |
| bknudson | tox -e py27 doesn't use the constraints file? | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: not yet | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: lifeless and Nakato are working on it | 15:38 |
| bknudson | so the py27 job should work as soon as ksc and ksm are released | 15:38 |
| ttx | so I don't think they will make it through before tomorrow anyway | 15:38 |
| bknudson | or fail in a different way | 15:38 |
| ttx | jroll: which TZ are you on ? How late can you babysit those patches tonight ? | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | ttx: that seems likely, given the depth | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/releases: release keystoneclient and keystonemiddleware https://review.openstack.org/234835 | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: yes,that's true | 15:39 |
| jroll | ttx: I'm west coast US, I'll be around until 00:00 or so | 15:39 |
| ttx | I'll be up and running at 07:00 utc | 15:40 |
| * ttx does tz math | 15:40 | |
| jroll | ttx: I mean 00:00 utc | 15:40 |
| stevemar_ | bknudson: good point! | 15:41 |
| bknudson | also, this is why stable/liberty will fail / be fixed in the same way, no caps | 15:41 |
| ttx | jroll: hmm, and how early are you starting tomorrow ? | 15:41 |
| jroll | ttx: I could be online as early as 1300 utc | 15:42 |
| ttx | jroll: basically there is no way your patches will make it before 00:00 utc. And the release will be mostly completed by 13:00 utc | 15:42 |
| jroll | ttx: I could have a euro counterpart handle things, what needs to be done, just the releases patch? | 15:42 |
| ttx | jroll: yeah, releases patch and sign-off | 15:43 |
| ttx | also babysitting/retrying the patch between 00:00 and 07:00utc | 15:43 |
| ttx | If you have an australian available that would work well | 15:44 |
| ttx | Ideally I would sync with that person at 07:00utc and hopefully tag then | 15:44 |
| jroll | ttx: yeah, so I could delegate to an aussie. I'm reading back and trying to figure out what the difference is between rushing it like this and $the_other_option? | 15:44 |
| ttx | jroll: so, the alternative is to release a point release on Friday | 15:45 |
| ttx | the difference is limited. It feels less like you discovered an issue after release day and issued an emergency point release the next day | 15:45 |
| ttx | it's mostly an image/communication issue rather than a technical one | 15:46 |
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| ttx | technically it's not the last bug nor the last point release you'll make on the liberty series anyway | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: do you anticipate a problem with these releases in liberty, or are you speaking generally? | 15:46 |
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| ttx | but it feels more serious to not issue a point release the day after the general release :) | 15:47 |
| ttx | jroll: it all boils down to how usable 4.2.0 is | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | ttx: since we need a new ironic release, would you approve the fix to the release script for their lp name? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231568/ | 15:48 |
| ttx | jroll: if it's downright unusable or dangerous to use, then pre-release-day sounds better | 15:48 |
| jroll | ttx: right, so 4.2.1 only includes new translations and fixes for running in japanese locales, honestly | 15:48 |
| ttx | ok, feels like it's not worth engaging warp 7 | 15:49 |
| jroll | ttx: so it would be great to include them but I don't think it's worth a heroic effort | 15:49 |
| jroll | yeah | 15:49 |
| ttx | I have so little faith in my free time tomorrow that I prefer it out of the way tbh | 15:49 |
| jroll | so from an image standpoint... trying to think of when a good time for 4.2.1 is | 15:49 |
| bknudson | dhellmann: stable/liberty keystone tox -epy27 is failing for me the same as it did on master. not that that should hold up the release. | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | jroll, ttx: given those fixes are for japanese locales, it would be good to do the release before the summit | 15:49 |
| jroll | ttx: yeah, that's totally fair, I agree :) | 15:49 |
| jroll | dhellmann: yeah exactly. the new translations are japanese as well | 15:50 |
| ttx | jroll: next Tuesday would be good I think | 15:50 |
| jroll | and also our first translation afaik | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: will the releases fix the problem? | 15:50 |
| jroll | ttx: excellent, that wfm | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | jroll: nice | 15:50 |
| ttx | jroll: cool, thx for your understanding | 15:50 |
| * jroll makes a note | 15:50 | |
| dhellmann | jroll: cool, I'll watch for that next tuesday | 15:50 |
| jroll | ttx: yeah, it's no problem at all, I know how valuable your time is :) | 15:50 |
| bknudson | dhellmann: we'll also have to backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233800/ from master to work with the new oslo.policy release. | 15:50 |
| ttx | it feels totally fine from an image perspective to say that you do an early point release on the liberty series pre-summit to enable full JP support | 15:51 |
| jroll | ttx: dhellmann I'll bug y'all tuesday, thank you both so much and good luck with wrapping up the final stuff :) | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | bknudson, stevemar_ : should I wait to do the releases until you have that patch, or do you need the release for that patch to be landable? | 15:51 |
| bknudson | the releases of keystoneclient and keystonemiddleware should fix the problem... unless there's something else being hidden by the reqs issue. | 15:51 |
| ttx | jroll: I'll be lost in Kyoto on Tuesday. Ask dhellmann :) | 15:51 |
| jroll | hah | 15:51 |
| bknudson | we're waiting on the ksc and ksm releases then I'll make sure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233800/ works | 15:52 |
| ttx | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC1tIfoYjwo | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: ok, I'll start those releases now then | 15:52 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: oh we definitely need those releasez | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: yep, just trying to make sure I was making things better not worse :-) | 15:52 |
| thingee | smcginnis: FYI, I'm the only one who has added anything to the release notes. This has always been a team joint effort. | 15:52 |
| thingee | smcginnis: I recommend bringing it up in the meeting today | 15:53 |
| bknudson | If I'd known the webob cap was going to cause problems I wouldn't have proposed the releases yesterday | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: do you want to block 2.4.0 in that g-r patch? | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: np, unintended consequences | 15:53 |
| bknudson | but it didn't show up in my local testing... not sure how to test locally | 15:53 |
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| stevemar_ | dhellmann: bknudson i don't think 2.4.0 and 1.8.1 need to be blocked | 15:54 |
| stevemar_ | err 2.4.0 and 1.8.0 | 15:55 |
| bknudson | well, they are causing problems | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | no? I thought with the bad webob dependency installing those caused breakage? or is it just the order of installation? | 15:55 |
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| bknudson | bug 1505996 | 15:55 |
| openstack | bug 1505996 in Keystone "requirements conflicts causes keystone fail on keystone-all command" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505996 - Assigned to Aswad Rangnekar (aswad-r) | 15:55 |
| bknudson | so blocking might help | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | if that's only a problem because of the way we install things, it might not matter so much | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | we can add the block later, so we can carry on with the release for now | 15:56 |
| stevemar_ | by the time we release something i think we'll bump up the reqs | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | makes sense | 15:57 |
| stevemar_ | to probably install >2.4.0 and >1.8.0 anyway | 15:57 |
| stevemar_ | historically speaking we've done that | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: release keystoneclient and keystonemiddleware https://review.openstack.org/234835 | 15:57 |
| stevemar_ | \o/ | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | ok, now to actually release them :-) | 15:58 |
| stevemar_ | doh | 15:58 |
| bknudson | I thought it was magic | 15:58 |
| stevemar_ | me too | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: is there a bug to target to this milestone? | 15:59 |
| dhellmann | pay no attention to the man behind the curtain :-) | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | we hope to have it fully automated by the end of mitaka | 16:00 |
| bknudson | I'll propose the change to block the 2.4.0 and 1.8.0 releases. | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_, bknudson : those releases are tagged now | 16:04 |
| bknudson | dhellmann: stevemar_: here's the change to block the releases https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234862/ | 16:05 |
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| bknudson | did a recheck on the keystone fix for oslo.policy change -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233800/ | 16:06 |
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| bknudson | if that passes then we're good and can go on to fixing stable/liberty | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 16:09 |
| dhellmann | I'm going to grab some lunch while we wait for those jobs to run | 16:09 |
| bknudson | oops, must take a while to show up on pypi | 16:10 |
| stevemar_ | bknudson: yeah it's not super immediate | 16:11 |
| stevemar_ | bknudson: ksm is showing 2.4.1 | 16:11 |
| bknudson | $ .tox/py27/bin/pip install -U "keystonemiddleware>2.4.0" -- says Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement | 16:12 |
| stevemar_ | bknudson: that's cause tox hates you | 16:13 |
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| bknudson | things are looking good now, tox -e py27 worked locally | 16:25 |
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| dims | dhellmann: too early to remove procedural -2's on requirements repo? | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Better pointer for docs in README. https://review.openstack.org/232208 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Update requirements https://review.openstack.org/232244 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: provide download links https://review.openstack.org/231729 | 17:18 |
| dhellmann | dims: let's get through tomorrow | 17:19 |
| dims | dhellmann: ++ | 17:21 |
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| mriedem | seems odd that we got the oslo.db 3.0 thing fixed in all other projects except heat (on stable/liberty): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234709/ | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: timing? | 19:52 |
| mriedem | yeah it was posted today | 19:52 |
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| TravT | ttx are you around? | 22:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/releases: Release ironic 4.2.1 https://review.openstack.org/235019 | 23:35 |
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| jroll | ttx: dhellmann ^ that's a thing if you do decide you want to do that tomorrow... going to -1 until tuesday but feel free to override :) | 23:36 |
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