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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/releases: release keystonemiddleware 2.3.1 https://review.openstack.org/230869 | 04:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: swift 2.5.0 release https://review.openstack.org/230735 | 09:16 |
| ttx | notmyname: all tagged | 09:17 |
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| ttx | Kiall: around ? | 09:46 |
| ttx | flaper87: around? | 09:46 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: around? | 09:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: hi | 09:47 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: hey, are we still looking at closing Nova RC2 tomorrow, wit hthe last translations import ? | 09:48 |
| ttx | RC2 page lists https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1369465 ... | 09:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1369465 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova resize doesn't resize(extend) rbd disk files when using rbd disk backend" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Nicolas Simonds (nicolas.simonds) | 09:49 |
| ttx | this shows as partial-fix in master ? | 09:49 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: do we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187395/ in ? | 09:50 |
| ttx | sounds pretty dangerous at this stage | 09:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I am with you, it does seem a bit too dangrous | 09:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I still want to target RC2 tomorrow | 09:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: let me check with some folks about that change | 09:55 |
| ttx | any review that starts with a 1 sounds dangerous | 09:55 |
| ttx | if it wasn't safe to merge over the last 6 months, now is not the best time | 09:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: agreed, I was really just adding that milestone for the partial fix that seems like an OK change, the other half is certainly not for now | 09:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I honestly though I had removed the milestone already, but clearly confused my self somehow | 09:59 |
| flaper87 | ttx: YES | 09:59 |
| flaper87 | ops, yes | 09:59 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: hmm, do you think we should split the two parts as separate bugs ? | 09:59 |
| ttx | flaper87: konichiwa | 09:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ttx: not sure its worth the hassle, let me double check | 10:00 |
| ttx | flaper87: should I open a RC2 to merge that last translations and call it final ? | 10:00 |
| ttx | flaper87: (zaqar) | 10:00 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: yes! No other backports planned | 10:00 |
| ttx | flaper87: alright then. Enjoy your trip | 10:00 |
| ttx | I'll make it happen | 10:01 |
| flaper87 | ttx: thanks | 10:01 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: FWIW, I'll be working so, feel free to ping me at anytime :) | 10:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I think we might be best just not merging either bit of that bug for now, and ignoring that for RC | 10:09 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: ok, remove it from RC2 list | 10:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: yes, I already have done | 10:09 |
| ttx | ok cool | 10:10 |
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| ttx | Kiall: around ? | 12:37 |
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| Kiall | ttx: heya | 12:39 |
| ttx | Kiall: so we'll do a RC2 over translations tomorrow. Anything else you'd like to add to that ? | 12:39 |
| * ttx opens the RC2 milestone anyway | 12:40 | |
| Kiall | ttx: yes, 1 patch waiting on a +A into master + backporting to L | 12:41 |
| ttx | Kiall: bug ref ? I'll add it to the RC2 target | 12:41 |
| Kiall | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1500798 | 12:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1500798 in Designate ""Duplicate RecordSet" error while trying to update Nameservers Pool" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Endre Karlson (endre-karlson) | 12:41 |
| ttx | Also please +1 ASAP | 12:41 |
| ttx | +A I mean | 12:41 |
| Kiall | Yea, I'll bug people as they come online :) | 12:41 |
| ttx | Kiall: cool, thx. Then post the backport to stable/liberty and I'll approve when the master patch merges | 12:42 |
| Kiall | Oh- it was approved already | 12:42 |
| Kiall | will land in a fe | 12:42 |
| Kiall | w | 12:42 |
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| ttx | Kiall: ok, then you can post the backport. I won't tag before tomorrow to catch a potential last-minute translations update but peh | 12:42 |
| ttx | but better get what we need in asap | 12:42 |
| dimsum__ | ttx: dhellmann: am working from Mountain View this week...so day is offset by 3 hours | 12:47 |
| ttx | dimsum__: noted | 12:47 |
| dimsum__ | thanks | 12:47 |
| dhellmann | dimsum__: ack | 12:57 |
| dhellmann | ttx: o/ | 12:57 |
| ttx | dhellmann: hey | 12:57 |
| ttx | meeting in 3 min | 12:57 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: I might need you to help syncing with the heat team. We'll see if I can get hold of them tomorrow morning | 13:26 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ack | 13:26 |
| ttx | likely to close Keystone, Trove and Barbican RC2s today | 13:27 |
| mestery | ttx: Once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230828/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230941/ merge Neutron RC2 is good to go I think, can you +A both of those please? | 13:28 |
| ttx | dhellmann: if we keep the RC system for some projects, we need to find out a way to simplify this tracking | 13:28 |
| dhellmann | ttx: use the releases repo? | 13:28 |
| jroll | dhellmann: dang, I just missed your meeting, earlier than I remembered :/ | 13:28 |
| ttx | mestery: we need to wait to cut the RC to include last minute translations update. Current ETA was Wednesday, I guess I can close it tomorrow if you prefer | 13:28 |
| mestery | ttx: Ack on that, I'm fine with Wednesday. | 13:29 |
| dhellmann | jroll: np, I thought it might be early for you | 13:29 |
| mestery | If anything else appears which is backport worthy, I'll keep an eye on it | 13:29 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I think the key issue is more around the mechanics of the RC windows. We need a way to make the PTLs decide for those without jeopardizing the release and still encouraging short windows | 13:29 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I'll give it more thought | 13:30 |
| ttx | mestery: approving those now | 13:30 |
| mestery | ttx: thank you! | 13:30 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I guess moving to intermediary releases doesn't really fix this, if projects tag lots of patch releases right at the end of the cycle it causes the same issues | 13:31 |
| ttx | dhellmann: slightly different because we care less about random commits sitting in stable/liberty branch and not part of an RC | 13:31 |
| ttx | basically we use the last "release" as the release candidate, and don't need to retag it | 13:32 |
| ttx | the drawback is that most of the intermediary-released projects don't coordinate their translations imports | 13:32 |
| ttx | and since we don't drive them as much as the RCs, they might get lost | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | so the issue here is that we need to be able to tell the difference between the patches to the stable branch that should land as part of the RC, vs. the ones that should wait? | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | I thought we were also trying to minimize the number of releases downstream consumers had to cope with (hence the small number of release candidates) | 13:33 |
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| ttx | it's also about encouraging testing and early packaging of RCs. If you have another one scheduled, a *lot* of downstream consumers just wait | 13:34 |
| ttx | negating the goals of those RCs | 13:34 |
| dhellmann | of course | 13:34 |
| ttx | so you pretend it's the last one, even if you know it won't be | 13:34 |
| ttx | the difference between the two models is really one of maturity | 13:35 |
| ttx | not a release mechanism imho | 13:35 |
| dhellmann | so I would expect intermediary projects to have a x.y.0 with an anticipated x.y.1 for translations | 13:35 |
| ttx | if you can produce something that you're relatively sure will be OK, then doing a release directly is fine | 13:35 |
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| ttx | If you're mostly collecting patches together and praying it's still OK, you need a RC | 13:36 |
| ttx | most projects still uncover pretty embarassing bugs or ommissions in RC1s | 13:36 |
| jroll | dhellmann: responded on the review, when you have a few | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | jroll: ack | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I suppose we could support rc tags for intermediary projects, too | 13:37 |
| ttx | dhellmann: for example most projects forget to include the extra migrations in RC1 and add them to RC2 | 13:37 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we used to do that, it's a bit tricky to mic the two models | 13:37 |
| ttx | mix* | 13:37 |
| ttx | you lose most of the benefits | 13:37 |
| ttx | that means post-versioning all the time except before "the thing you expect to be the last one" | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | jroll: thanks, +2 | 13:38 |
| ttx | which is not really exact science | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | ttx: we can tag rcs using the post-versioning tools | 13:38 |
| jroll | dhellmann: thanks! | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | ttx: we used to do that for oslo libs | 13:39 |
| ttx | dhellmann: my point is... if ironic does an intermediary release one month before final. What do you do ? Is it the last one ? Who knows ? | 13:39 |
| ttx | when do you trigger the RC workflow and when do you not ? | 13:40 |
| jokke_ | ttx: if you have few somewhere in between RC2 I'd greatly appreciate couple of changes in to the glance-stable-maint group ref. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/075841.html, or pointer towards correct person if you have managed to offload these to someone else. ; | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | ttx: it would be up to the team -- basically right now we discourage the use of alpha/beta tags by intermediary projects, but we could change that to allow them to use candidates when we get close to the end of the cycle | 13:41 |
| jokke_ | ;) | 13:41 |
| ttx | jokke_: maybe forward me an email, so I process it when the tide is low | 13:49 |
| jokke_ | ttx: thnx ... anything specific to topic? | 13:50 |
| ttx | no | 13:50 |
| ttx | nikhil: around? | 13:51 |
| jroll | dhellmann: ttx: random data points: 1) I think we, as a intermediary-released project, would know if a release is the last before final (save for bugfixes) and whether to trigger the RC workflow. 2) I'd personally prefer to not use the pre-tag workflow for ironic, however we are going to talk a bit at the summit about that, when to FF, etc so maybe that will change :) | 13:51 |
| ttx | redrobot: around? | 13:51 |
| dhellmann | jroll: do you know based on schedule, feature completeness, stability, something else? | 13:52 |
| jroll | dhellmann: schedule; this cycle we said "we do last liberty release the same week as openstack rc1" | 13:53 |
| jroll | dhellmann: the freeze was awkward, being out of sync with g-r freeze, so we may play with that schedule | 13:53 |
| dhellmann | jroll: ok, that's more or less what I thought | 13:53 |
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| nikhil | ttx: hi | 14:04 |
| ttx | nikhil: hey, regarding RC2 | 14:05 |
| ttx | two options | 14:05 |
| ttx | We have to wait until Thursday to include the latest translations updates | 14:06 |
| ttx | so we can wait until then to publish RC2 | 14:06 |
| ttx | or we can tag right now and retag on Thursday IF there is a translations update then | 14:06 |
| ttx | in both cases we need to decide what we do with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230008/ | 14:07 |
| ttx | nikhil: at this stage my preference would be to trash that change and tag now | 14:07 |
| ttx | since the RC window has been opened for a bit and I'd like to throw a bone to testers | 14:07 |
| ttx | but I don't really mind either way, so your call | 14:08 |
| ttx | If this change needs to be in, I'd rather wait Thursday and do a single RC | 14:08 |
| nikhil | ttx: if you don't mind, I think we should wait to include all changes. Unless you don't mind if we open RC3 for change or two. | 14:09 |
| ttx | nikhil: in this case I prefer waiting | 14:09 |
| nikhil | ttx: agree, there's some overlap in what we are thinking. | 14:09 |
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| nikhil | ttx: I meant, I agree to waiting it makes sense at this point | 14:09 |
| nikhil | ttx: how about I confirm with you tomorrow? I think I know someone to reachout to for i18n changes | 14:10 |
| ttx | nikhil: sounds good. What is the status of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230008/ i.e. bug 1501672 ? | 14:10 |
| openstack | bug 1501672 in Glance "v2 image download returns 403 when 'get_image_locations' policy set" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501672 - Assigned to Stuart McLaren (stuart-mclaren) | 14:10 |
| ttx | is it something you *need* in ? How far is the master change ? | 14:10 |
| nikhil | ttx: master isn't complete yet | 14:11 |
| nikhil | ttx: but we can get that in by thursday if needed | 14:11 |
| ttx | nikhil: review it asap, we'll need it backported before Thursday | 14:11 |
| nikhil | ttx: as far as coming to a conclusion, I think it's a hit and miss | 14:11 |
| ttx | so we can get it in in time ;) | 14:12 |
| ttx | stevemar_: o/ | 14:12 |
| nikhil | ttx: absolutely. thanks! | 14:12 |
| ttx | stevemar_: I'm ready to tag Keystone RC2 now, unless you wave a red flag. Expected to be the last RC unless something pretty weird happens | 14:12 |
| ttx | nikhil: sounds good, thx! | 14:13 |
| stevemar_ | ttx: i think we're good for RC2, let me double check with the folks | 14:13 |
| ttx | stevemar_: ok, just ping me when OK | 14:13 |
| gordc | ttx: you know when you are going to open rc2 window for Ceilometer? | 14:20 |
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| AJaeger | ttx, regarding translations: https://translate.openstack.org/ has "Liberty translation (2015 Sep.10~2015 Oct.4)". | 14:21 |
| ttx | gordc: we have a RC update for translatiosns cheduled on Wednesday. We can open the RC2 milestone now if you have other things to backport | 14:21 |
| AJaeger | If there's no translation update today in the queue, I would consider a new one very very unlikely to come | 14:21 |
| gordc | ttx: just two minor items (one being a deprecation text change). | 14:22 |
| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ceilometer+branch:stable/liberty,n,z | 14:22 |
| * AJaeger discussed with translators in IRC meeting last week and we took the 4th as end... | 14:22 | |
| ttx | gordc: let's open the milestone now | 14:22 |
| ttx | AJaeger: cool, so we can close RCs asap | 14:22 |
| AJaeger | nikhil: no need to reach out to anybody for translation import, I'm here ;) | 14:23 |
| gordc | ttx: kk. thanks. those will probably be the only items. | 14:23 |
| ttx | gordc: https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/liberty-rc2 | 14:23 |
| ttx | add your items there and I'll approve the corresponding patches | 14:23 |
| AJaeger | ttx,nikhil: for trove there's no translation import setup - nothing will come. | 14:23 |
| Kiall | ttx: backport to stable/liberty pushed up - once it passes, should we go ahead and +A or did you said you needed do? | 14:24 |
| AJaeger | ttx, nikhil: trove currently has not enough translations... | 14:24 |
| ttx | Kiall: I think I approved them all and they all merged... rechecking | 14:24 |
| Kiall | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231008/ <-- Was the only one for Designate | 14:24 |
| ttx | Kiall: oh, approving now | 14:25 |
| Kiall | (it's not passed gate yet, but as a straight backport it should pass ...) | 14:25 |
| gordc | ttx: two items attached to rc2 | 14:25 |
| ttx | Kiall: approved | 14:25 |
| Kiall | thanks! | 14:26 |
| nikhil | AJaeger: hey hey! | 14:27 |
| nikhil | AJaeger: we are looking for GLance. I am the other nikhil :) | 14:27 |
| ttx | gordc: all in the pipe | 14:27 |
| AJaeger | nikhil: I'm sorry ;( | 14:27 |
| AJaeger | nikhil: let me check glance | 14:27 |
| AJaeger | nikhil: The next language to get imported currently has 28 % translated - and we require 75 %. So, I doubt that anything comes... | 14:30 |
| AJaeger | nikhil: After that it's 7 %. Miracles happen but my bet is that you won't get a translation import for glance. | 14:30 |
| AJaeger | nikhil: Check yourself if you're interested at https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/glance/stable-liberty/documents/glance | 14:31 |
| nikhil | AJaeger: oh boy ... this for sure doesn't seem likely by thursday! | 14:32 |
| stevemar_ | ttx: sadly, one more, its the first i'm hearing of it -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231022/ - we just talked about it in -keystone | 14:33 |
| AJaeger | nikhil: yep. So, a few strings to existing documents might come but glance is not in focus... | 14:33 |
| ttx | stevemar_: better now than in two hours after I cut the RC ;) | 14:33 |
| AJaeger | nikhil: still, we had some good translations imported thanks to a big chunk by IBM | 14:34 |
| stevemar_ | AJaeger: yw :) | 14:34 |
| stevemar_ | ttx: we'll try and get it merged, we have folks reviewing it now | 14:34 |
| nikhil | yw :) | 14:34 |
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| nikhil | AJaeger: I think we are sorta okay with GLance, haven't heard a lot of complaints on translations so, we will take all the good candy we have! | 14:35 |
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| ttx | redrobot: around? | 15:16 |
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| ttx | SlickNik: around? | 15:24 |
| jroll | when y'all have a couple minutes... ironic 4.2.1 (has a backport and translation updates) https://review.openstack.org/230749 | 15:25 |
| jroll | and ironic-python-agent 1.0.0 now that we merged the release model change https://review.openstack.org/229986 | 15:25 |
| jroll | ^ wouldn't mind a stable/liberty branch from the same SHA there | 15:26 |
| redrobot | ttx o/ | 15:26 |
| ttx | redrobot: looks like we are ready to tag a RC2 | 15:26 |
| ttx | redrobot: all the fixes in https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/liberty-rc2 are backported | 15:27 |
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| ttx | anything we should wait for ? | 15:27 |
| ttx | (that's supposedly final so it's unlikely we'll respin unless the issue is a regression or an upgrade/install issue) | 15:27 |
| redrobot | ttx I saw a bug this morning that I haven't had a chance to look at. I can ping you in a few minutes after I talk to the reporter. | 15:28 |
| ttx | redrobot: sounds good | 15:28 |
| ttx | stevebaker: just in case you're traveling to another TZ, ping | 15:29 |
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| redrobot | ttx should be good to tag after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231061/ merges | 15:46 |
| ttx | approved | 15:46 |
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| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231059/1 | 15:48 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: ^ weird | 15:48 |
| ttx | I suppose we should merge it ? | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, that's an artifact of the update script. I don't remember the cause, but lifeless should be able to explain it | 15:49 |
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| stevemar_ | ttx: so the last patch going into liberty is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231051/ and it's master branch fix is gating right now | 16:06 |
| ttx | stevemar_: ok, I might come back in a couple of hours and check which RC2s can be closed then | 16:07 |
| ttx | stevemar_: feel free to approve the liberty backport through, once the master patch is in | 16:07 |
| stevemar_ | ttx: awesome | 16:08 |
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| stevemar_ | ttx: that's the best feeling | 16:09 |
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| SlickNik | ttx: here now | 16:38 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: i've got a question about stable releases for clients | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: ask away | 16:49 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: this fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230231/ it's been committed to master, but not released. can i still tag a new ksc stable without tagging a new ksc from master? | 16:49 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: yeah, that's fine | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_: you'll want to update both the master and stable constraints to use the new version | 16:50 |
| notmyname | ttx: ack swift tag. thanks | 16:51 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: right, and when master needs a new ksc, we make it 1.8.0 | 16:53 |
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| lifeless | ttx: so yeah, there's a canonical sort order to the operators, and its not 'human sort'' | 17:42 |
| lifeless | ttx: it can be fixed, upstream, then we'll get a flood of updates and it will settle down again | 17:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/releases: release keystoneclient 1.7.2 https://review.openstack.org/231127 | 18:20 |
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| ttx | SlickNik: feels like we can tag the RC2 now ? | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | ttx: yes — we should be good. | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | nothing new to add. | 18:33 |
| ttx | ok, tagging now. If a severe regression or upgrade/install issue is detected between now and release, let me know asap :) | 18:34 |
| ttx | redrobot: change merged - will tag now if you confirm all clear | 18:39 |
| redrobot | ttx yes, please tag now | 18:40 |
| ttx | ok, will do in a minute | 18:40 |
| ttx | stevebaker: I created https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/liberty-rc2 and started merging translations updates. Please target bugs to it and I'll approve corresponding chanegs tomorrow (or just approve them yourself if you're sure they are merged in amster already) | 18:49 |
| ttx | dhellmann: if you manage to talk to stevebaker later, please point him to that ^ | 18:49 |
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| ttx | SlickNik, redrobot: tagged and announced. Hopefully you're all done :) | 18:59 |
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| cp16net | :) | 19:07 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: ack, I'll track him down | 19:22 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Find Cinder Liberty patch (not counting any forthcoming translations): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231111/ | 19:25 |
| smcginnis | s/Find/Final/ | 19:25 |
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| stevebaker | ttx, dhellmann: ack, i'll start backporting | 19:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/releases: First taskflow mitaka release https://review.openstack.org/231152 | 19:45 |
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| dhellmann | stevebaker: thanks | 19:51 |
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| AJaeger | dhellmann: once the heat fix https://review.openstack.org/228723 is in, could you "recheck" the translation import, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229251/ . This will need more than an hour... | 20:04 |
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| dhellmann | stevebaker: ^^ | 20:14 |
| stevebaker | dhellmann: I've been watching that | 20:16 |
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| dhellmann | stevebaker: ack | 20:20 |
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| SlickNik | ttx: awesome — thanks! Much appreciated. :) | 20:44 |
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