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| mestery | ttx: Neutron should be ready to go now, all the patch in openstack/neutron I was waiting for have merged now: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron+branch:stable/liberty,n,z | 00:39 |
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| mestery | ttx: Go ahead and tag and release when you wake up! I'll ping you in channel in the morning in case there are issues. Thanks! | 00:39 |
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| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: we'll need to merge an open-mitaka commit first. | 07:05 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: proposed at https://review.openstack.org/227697 https://review.openstack.org/227698 https://review.openstack.org/227699 | 07:09 |
| ttx | mestery, jroll: will do this morning | 07:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release ironic 4.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/227582 | 08:01 |
| lifeless | ttx: so, are we deleting the version= lines from setup.cfg's? | 08:01 |
| ttx | lifeless: yes for intermediary-released projects, not yet for meilstone-driven ones. To be discussed at summit | 08:02 |
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| lifeless | ttx: ack | 08:03 |
| ttx | brainstorming in progress at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mtaka-release-drop-pre-versioning -- bit stalled since we are in the release / design summit org tunnel right now | 08:03 |
| lifeless | ttx: speaking of - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ | 08:08 |
| ttx | jroll: 4.2.0 all set at https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/4.2.0 and stable/liberty cut from it. I'll let you announce it | 08:09 |
| ttx | lifeless: yes, on my TODO list | 08:09 |
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| AJaeger | lifeless, ttx: babel 2.1 got uploaded today and breaks all of horizon ;( | 09:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/releases: releases python-gnocchiclient 1.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/227743 | 09:48 |
| AJaeger | Not sure about all of horizon, just noticed it in most recent import | 09:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/releases: releases python-gnocchiclient 1.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/227743 | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I am thinking we should create RC2 milestone for nova, since we will need it for translations anyways | 09:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: does that make sense? | 09:52 |
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| ttx | johnthetubaguy: yes we'll need it, but creating a RC2 milestone generally sends a "stop testing RC1" signal | 09:58 |
| ttx | I'd rather let the weekend pass and create those Monday | 09:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/releases: releases python-gnocchiclient 0.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/227743 | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: ack, good point | 11:18 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I made a new release dashboard with a mitaka section http://bit.ly/1Vdaeft | 11:33 |
| ttx | nice | 11:35 |
| dhellmann | ttx, lifeless : what do you think about this tempest-lib requirements update? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227599/1 | 11:59 |
| ttx | dhellmann: any idea how many req updates that would likely trigger ? | 12:00 |
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| ttx | if it doesn't touch things we already branched I'd say that is safe | 12:00 |
| dhellmann | ttx: grep says 36 | 12:01 |
| dhellmann | ttx: although none of those projects have tempest-lib capped | 12:01 |
| ttx | dhellmann: hmm, not sure I like the idea of triggering all those and having to merge them into 36 projects stable/liberty branches | 12:03 |
| dhellmann | yeah, same here. I'll -2 it for now | 12:04 |
| AJaeger | ttx, dhellmann: The horizon issue (also in aodh, cinder noticed) with broken babel needs a requirements update - see https://review.openstack.org/227755 | 12:18 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger: that's going to trigger a ton of requirements updates. Is there no other way to fix it? (I don't know any details about the issue) | 12:19 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: I haven't looked closer at it and won't have time for that - but just looking at the log files, it seems the only other alternative is bugging babel for an updated release | 12:20 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger: I'm curious to know what's special about horizon | 12:20 |
| dhellmann | that is, are they doing something unusual, is there a weird string, or is it something else that causes the failure | 12:21 |
| dhellmann | and why has this only just come up | 12:21 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: babel 2.1x got release this morning ;( | 12:21 |
| dhellmann | ah | 12:22 |
| mestery | ttx: Checking in on the neutron tagging before I take off for the day :) | 12:22 |
| mestery | ttx: Any issues this morning? | 12:22 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: see http://logs.openstack.org/84/227684/1/check/gate-horizon-pep8/a04be53/console.html or any of the other linked reviews from there. | 12:22 |
| AJaeger | thre meaning https://review.openstack.org/227755 | 12:23 |
| ttx | mestery: nope, all done | 12:23 |
| mestery | ttx: \o/ | 12:24 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger: have you reproduced the problem locally? that's a weird error message. | 12:24 |
| mestery | ttx: Thanks! I'll check back later today, hope you have a nice afternoon and weekend! | 12:24 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: I haven't - let me try... | 12:25 |
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| dhellmann | AJaeger: I'm doing that now | 12:25 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger: the pep8 job for horizon passed for me locally but I only got babel 2.0 | 12:26 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger: I no longer see babel 2.1 on pypi, I wonder if they pulled a bad package | 12:27 |
| AJaeger | seems that was done - let me recheckc the changes and comment in the requirements review. | 12:27 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: I'll get back to you - for now ignore this ;) | 12:27 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger: ack | 12:28 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: babel 2.1.1 got released properly and does not seem to have this problem | 12:41 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger: crisis averted! | 12:41 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: Yes, I hope so... | 12:42 |
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| AJaeger | the retriggered jobs use 2.1.1 and passed the previously failing test... | 12:43 |
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| jroll | ttx: thanks \o/ | 12:59 |
| mugsie | dhellmann: what is the process to get requrements in for liberty? - https://review.openstack.org/227813 is needed by designate stable/liberty | 13:01 |
| dhellmann | mugsie: why is it needed? | 13:02 |
| ttx | " zigo noticed that the designate unit tests fail with 1.0.0 + liberty." | 13:02 |
| mugsie | there is a new driver in designate that can use another designate as a DNS server | 13:02 |
| mugsie | it needs the v2 api bindings, which are only in 1.5.0 | 13:03 |
| dhellmann | landing that will trigger requirements updates in 6 projects | 13:05 |
| dhellmann | do all of those need to be backported? | 13:05 |
| mugsie | depends on the 6 | 13:05 |
| dhellmann | http://paste.openstack.org/show/474034/ | 13:05 |
| mugsie | just designate, and maybe searchlight - let me check what the code in searchlight uses | 13:07 |
| dhellmann | well, when we branch the requirements repo all of those other projects are going to end up being updated as well, so we should just assume they'll all be updated | 13:07 |
| dhellmann | mugsie: when was all of this stuff added? how new is this feature? | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | 1.5 was just released a few days ago | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | how can anything be relying on that, weren't you in feature freeze? | 13:08 |
| mugsie | searchlight will need it. they may not need 1.5.0 though. | 13:09 |
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| mugsie | dhellmann: ok, looks like the code was actually in 1.3 | 13:11 |
| mugsie | I can update the review to use 1.3.0 instead? | 13:11 |
| dhellmann | why wasn't the requirement updated in june when 1.3.0 was released? | 13:11 |
| mugsie | It must have slipped through the cracks, I am not sure why we didnt | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | ttx: what do you think here? if we update the requirement, we'll have to update those 6 projects to stay in sync. We expect RC2 for most projects because of translations, right? | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | what's the downside to saying no? we're not correctly expressing our requirements for this project | 13:17 |
| ttx | dhellmann: some projects don't have translations, so this would trigger updates for them | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | true | 13:17 |
| ttx | I'd block it until we branch, then land it in master and consider it for stable/liberty | 13:17 |
| ttx | by that time we might have several such "slips" | 13:18 |
| ttx | and it will be easier to assess the benefit/drawback | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it makes sense to deal with them all at once | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | mugsie: so we're going to wait until we have the stable/liberty branch for requirements updated. I'll leave a comment on the patch. | 13:19 |
| mugsie | dhellmann: cool, thanks | 13:19 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ptl-relmgt-primer I'm wondering if it would not be better to just update project-team-guide then just send an email to the pTLs pointing to updated relevant sections | 13:22 |
| ttx | rather than write a summary and then duplicate or lose the work | 13:22 |
| ttx | I think you suggested that too | 13:23 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, I thought the etherpad was a place to collect notes for the updates we needed to make to the guide | 13:24 |
| dhellmann | ttx: hence my recent patch related to liaison responsibilities https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack%2Fproject-team-guide+is:open,n,z | 13:25 |
| ttx | ack | 13:25 |
| dhellmann | ttx: that etherpad will make a good basis for the email, too | 13:25 |
| ttx | dhellmann: re: Mitaka release schedule, are you still up for a 5-week post-FF pre-release period instead of 6 ? | 13:27 |
| ttx | we would communicate that as well | 13:27 |
| dhellmann | that was option 6 from https://www.dropbox.com/s/qdh8v3tffdds3mb/Schedule.pdf?dl=0 right? | 13:28 |
| ttx | yes | 13:28 |
| dhellmann | I thinking having the extra week between M1 and M2 makes sense because of the holidays | 13:28 |
| dhellmann | also, I Englishing badly | 13:30 |
| dhellmann | the alternative I guess is something like option 4 | 13:31 |
| dhellmann | ttx: what are the yellow days on that calendar? | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | some look like holidays, but I don't recognize the others | 13:32 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: some are my holidays | 13:36 |
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| dhellmann | ah | 13:36 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I kinda like option 6 | 13:37 |
| ttx | I think the long period encourages slacking and FFEs | 13:37 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's what we agreed on before and I don't see a compelling reason to change | 13:37 |
| ttx | was useful when projects had a long backlog of RC1 bugs to go through, but this time they basically shoretened the time between all-FFE done and all-RC1-bugfixes-in | 13:37 |
| ttx | I was actually surprised that being late for FFEs didn't translate to being late for RC1s | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | I suspect it's going to mean a buggier release | 13:38 |
| ttx | so if we make clear that FFEs are a bad idea in Mitaka the 5-week should work well | 13:38 |
| ttx | dhellmann: it's likely to mean lots of RCs | 13:39 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 13:39 |
| dhellmann | I think you're right about stressing the fact that we should discourage ffes | 13:39 |
| ttx | dhellmann: but I don't really mind RCs as long as we have one to fall back to | 13:39 |
| ttx | it's easy to say "too late for another RC" and fall back to the current RC | 13:40 |
| ttx | you can't do that if you don't have any :) | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | so what happens to the patches in the branch if it's too late for another RC? | 13:40 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that's the trick. You're not supposed to have patches in the branch if you don't have a RC window opened | 13:41 |
| ttx | i.e. we should -2 them | 13:41 |
| ttx | some sneaked in before I watched though, like defaultbranch changes | 13:41 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the process is... you pile up fixes in master, then discuss the opening of a RC window and its contents, when granted you file all the backports and we get them all in | 13:43 |
| ttx | that reduces the time the RC window is opened (which is generally a time when nobody tests the tag since it's already "old" | 13:43 |
| ttx | it also makes the RC window "closable" | 13:43 |
| ttx | since you already have the fixes and know they can merge | 13:44 |
| dhellmann | ah, I see | 13:44 |
| ttx | last thing you want is an open-ended RC window (like targeting a bug without a fix) | 13:44 |
| dhellmann | I keep conflating RC and normal stable branch processes | 13:45 |
| ttx | it was clearer when the branch did not have the same name | 13:45 |
| ttx | which is why I resisted the renaming all this time | 13:46 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 13:46 |
| dhellmann | that makes more sense in retrospect | 13:46 |
| ttx | rules are different but the branch is called the same | 13:46 |
| ttx | oh well | 13:46 |
| ttx | the cost is to pay attention to stable/liberty changes and apply -2 there liberally | 13:46 |
| ttx | but most people still think it's a free-for-all | 13:48 |
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| dhellmann | I guess before the cost of renaming the branch was somewhat a hassle? | 13:53 |
| ttx | dhellmann: more the dev-side cost of it | 13:53 |
| ttx | i.e. people tracking proposed/liberty having to switch to stable/liberty | 13:53 |
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| ttx | notmyname: ping me when around, re: next swift release ETA | 14:23 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: mtreinish is looking for a requirements change for tempest-lib https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227599/. Since tempest is branchless, this is blocking their ability to start doing mitaka work, but it's also apparently blocking some work that would be used for liberty | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | what have we don there in the past? | 14:53 |
| mtreinish | dhellmann: heh, if you want to get super precise it'll also be used on juno and kilo... :) | 14:53 |
| ttx | dhellmann: it probably got caught in other requirements late updates last time | 14:54 |
| ttx | would have been better to have that update 4 days ago | 14:54 |
| dhellmann | maybe we should start requiring release requests to come with requirement update patches | 14:55 |
| ttx | the trick is, the master change won't trigger updates to already-cut stable/liberty | 14:55 |
| ttx | probably will when the requirements stable/liberty branch is cut | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | yeah, the first time the job runs after the branch is cut we should see the update | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | that's a lot of updates on the stable branch | 14:56 |
| ttx | Right now I fear that will delay the last RC1s | 14:56 |
| ttx | since it will result in that extra sync for those projects that are on master | 14:56 |
| ttx | and they are actively pushing the open-mitaka change right now | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | so wait until rc1 is done and requirements are branched and then accept this on master? | 14:56 |
| ttx | so if that could wait till Monday that would be swell | 14:56 |
| ttx | yeah | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | mtreinish: what do you think? ^^ | 14:57 |
| mtreinish | yeah it can wait until Mon | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | k | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | I'll make a note of this discussion in the review | 14:57 |
| ttx | mtreinish: I have to check Swift ETA, but since they don't consume requirements that much I bet we can branch requirements while swift is still on master | 14:57 |
| ttx | let me think about that for a minute | 14:58 |
| mtreinish | ttx: heh, ok | 14:59 |
| ttx | dhellmann: in theory we said "branch requirements when all stable/liberty branches are created" | 14:59 |
| ttx | so that means wait for the swift liberty release candidate | 14:59 |
| ttx | which will probably be sometimes next week (have to check with notmyname) | 14:59 |
| ttx | BUT maybe we can branch requirements before swift has a stable/liberty branch. | 14:59 |
| ttx | since they don't sync requirements anyway | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | well, they do, but they don't have very many | 15:00 |
| ttx | trying to remember why we need to wait for all stable branches to be created... but I don't have enough brain juice left to focus | 15:01 |
| ttx | been a long week | 15:01 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, at this point I'm doing it because when we all worked out the plan that's what we agreed on and I trust my past self more than my current self to reason about it | 15:03 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: so... the risk would be that we merge a master requirements after the branch point, that gets synced to swift, which is then branched and diverges from the others stable/liberty requirements | 15:04 |
| ttx | if swift just ignores the master req bump anyway (and has different requirements anyway) I think it's safe | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that makes sense | 15:06 |
| ttx | ... or maybe there is an issue with the stable/liberty->master fallback | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | why is swift on a different schedule from the other projects? ironic just did their final release, right? | 15:06 |
| ttx | i.e. stable/liberty requirements needs styable/liberty swift or it will fail | 15:06 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: ironic just did yes, but they could have done it next week | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok | 15:07 |
| ttx | My original request was "before end of month" | 15:07 |
| ttx | which is why I want to sync with notmyname | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | ok, so that's until tuesday | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | or wed I guess | 15:07 |
| ttx | I should have synced earlier but was deep into rc1-and-ffe-chasing | 15:08 |
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| ttx | david-lyle: ping | 15:08 |
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| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: ping | 15:08 |
| ttx | redrobot: ping | 15:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, pong | 15:08 |
| dtantsur | sorry for interrupt, do I get it right that NOT release:managed projects with branches are expected to create stable/liberty today? | 15:08 |
| ttx | dtantsur: no | 15:09 |
| ttx | dtantsur: you should, but you don't have to :) | 15:09 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: you need to approve the open-mitaka changes | 15:10 |
| dtantsur | yeah, I see :) we planned on yesterday, but then we got 2-days-long gate breakage.... | 15:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, going to do it, sorry, just woke up | 15:10 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227698/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227697/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227699/ | 15:10 |
| dtantsur | and now it's Friday evening for me | 15:10 |
| ttx | I'll pick up Sahara RC1 at the other side of that tunnel | 15:10 |
| ttx | dtantsur: Monday is fine | 15:10 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 15:10 |
| david-lyle | ttx: o/ | 15:11 |
| ttx | david-lyle: quick check on ETA for that last change of yours. Later today ? More Monday ? | 15:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, approved | 15:13 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: thx! | 15:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, thx! | 15:13 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: sorry I should have put those up earlier | 15:13 |
| david-lyle | ttx: not ready today, we could do RC-1 without it | 15:13 |
| david-lyle | tag as rc2-potential | 15:13 |
| david-lyle | we released kilo with the same bug, but it would be nice to fix | 15:13 |
| david-lyle | but the current patch needs work | 15:14 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, so not a new thing | 15:14 |
| ttx | david-lyle: sounds good, push it off RC1 and approve the open-mitaka change ? | 15:14 |
| david-lyle | basically it means horizon requires cinder v1 to manage cinder | 15:14 |
| david-lyle | even though API calls are made to v2 | 15:15 |
| ttx | bah ideally we'll get it into a RC2 if you can get it fixed in pmaster next week | 15:15 |
| david-lyle | ttx the last thing I needed to do before RC1 was make sure Daisy had a translation branch ready for liberty | 15:17 |
| david-lyle | but I don't see her online | 15:17 |
| ttx | hmm | 15:17 |
| ttx | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations/Infrastructure#Release_handling | 15:17 |
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| david-lyle | ttx: traveling and wifi keeps failing | 15:21 |
| david-lyle | do you know anything about translation branches? | 15:21 |
| david-lyle | I thought I saw something in infra yesterday for a stable liberty branch in zanata | 15:21 |
| ttx | yep | 15:22 |
| ttx | david-lyle: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations/Infrastructure#Release_handling | 15:22 |
| ttx | you're in the list of branches that they will update post-RC1 | 15:22 |
| ttx | so they should have you covered | 15:23 |
| david-lyle | ttx: ok, great | 15:23 |
| david-lyle | so I just need to approve the Mitaka patch on master and you will create the stable branch? | 15:23 |
| ttx | david-lyle: yes | 15:24 |
| david-lyle | ttx: approved | 15:25 |
| david-lyle | will take a bit to propagate I assume | 15:26 |
| ttx | it will | 15:26 |
| ttx | I'll probably do that on Saturday | 15:26 |
| ttx | morning | 15:26 |
| david-lyle | sounds good | 15:26 |
| ttx | david-lyle: should I untarget bug 1415712 ? | 15:26 |
| openstack | bug 1415712 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) ""Volumes" tab doesn't show up if cinder v1 isn't registered" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1415712 - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki) | 15:26 |
| david-lyle | ttx: working on that now | 15:27 |
| david-lyle | adding tag | 15:27 |
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| david-lyle | ok, updated | 15:27 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, you're all set | 15:28 |
| david-lyle | thanks ttx | 15:28 |
| AJaeger | david-lyle: I'll take care of Zanata | 15:28 |
| ttx | redrobot: ping | 15:28 |
| david-lyle | AJaeger: thank you! | 15:28 |
| AJaeger | david-lyle: With the switch to zanata it's all new to us but we have a plan now, let's hope everything works. | 15:28 |
| AJaeger | david-lyle: the proposal bot will propose translations for liberty as well on horizon and a few other repos. | 15:29 |
| ttx | redrobot: looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227543/ is ready for approval, and once that merges, you can approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227411/ ? | 15:29 |
| david-lyle | AJaeger: ok will look for those in horizon | 15:29 |
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| ttx | redrobot, notmyname: last ping before weekend | 16:06 |
| redrobot | ttx o/ | 16:07 |
| redrobot | sorry just got out of my morning meetings | 16:07 |
| ttx | redrobot: looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227543/ is ready for approval, and once that merges, you can approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227411/ ? | 16:07 |
| redrobot | ttx I'm going to hold off on merging the Mitaka CR until later today... there's one more bug that I may pull in if our contributor can have a patch up today. If not I'll get it merged before EOB today. | 16:08 |
| ttx | noted! | 16:08 |
| ttx | redrobot: thx | 16:08 |
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| notmyname | ttx: yo | 16:57 |
| notmyname | ttx: current target for us is one week from now to have everything landed | 16:57 |
| notmyname | ttx: stuff we're tracking is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 16:57 |
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| dhellmann | notmyname: we were hoping for something by the end of september to line up with the other projects | 17:58 |
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| notmyname | next wednesday? I don't see how that's possible. I'm going to be really really happy if we get these landed by next friday | 18:05 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: ack | 18:15 |
| notmyname | honestly, I'm currently expecting to work on everything through next friday (ie one week from now of dev time) and then babysit the gate and send you a SHA on the weekend | 18:32 |
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| dhellmann | notmyname: is that for rc1 or final? | 18:39 |
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| lifeless | so babel wasn't protected by constraints? | 18:40 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: well, it's pretty much the same thing, since we aren't doing rc tags any more | 18:40 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: ok, that's what I thought. I think that'll keep you more or less on the same schedule as the other projects | 18:41 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: not in the pep8 jobs | 18:41 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: and AFAIK that gives us the following week (through the 9th) for any follow-up things that show up at the last minute | 18:42 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: yeah, I think that will be ok. we've been trying to push for projects to finish a bit earlier this cycle, in part because the window after FF and release next cycle will be a little shorter | 18:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: Move instructions from readme to published docs https://review.openstack.org/227997 | 18:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: Add instructions for linking a requirements update to release request https://review.openstack.org/227998 | 18:46 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: replied on the proposal | 18:57 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: "the proposal"? | 18:59 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: the tempest-lib minimum raise | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | ah | 18:59 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: ah yes, pep8 job constraints are coming | 19:00 |
| lifeless | we're just discussing with holger | 19:00 |
| lifeless | the tox change | 19:00 |
| dhellmann | I've reviewed a million things today, so I wasn't sure which you meant :-) | 19:00 |
| lifeless | de nada | 19:00 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: yeah, I think the issue isn't so much that we think it's a bad change just that the timing is bad because we have a bunch of projects with stable branches already, but the requirements branch isn't cut | 19:01 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: well, we don't want fire drills ever | 19:03 |
| lifeless | so :/ | 19:03 |
| dhellmann | does the plan of waiting a few days until we can do the backport not address that? | 19:04 |
| dhellmann | branch requirements; land this; land a backport; merge into projects that need it for a new rc | 19:04 |
| mtreinish | dhellmann: heh, although I think the only project that needs it is tempest, which won't require a backport :) | 19:06 |
| dhellmann | mtreinish: nevertheless, with all of those other projects depending on it, there will be automatically generated patches :-/ | 19:06 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: sorry, I'm confused. I was talking about the pep8 / babel thing since I said 'ah yes, ... | 19:06 |
| mtreinish | well only if you backport it to liberty reqs | 19:06 |
| mtreinish | it's not actually a requirement | 19:06 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: but it sounds like you're talking about tempest-lib now | 19:07 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: oh, sorry, I was still talking about the tempest-lib thing | 19:07 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:07 |
| * mtreinish probably shouldn't have overloaded requirement there :) | 19:07 | |
| lifeless | dhellmann: so I don't mind either way on the tempest-lib thing. Its not going to break anything no matter what | 19:08 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: *except* folk, if any, that packaged 0.8.0 rather than 0.9.0 | 19:08 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: for whatever reason | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:08 |
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| dimsum__ | “The constraints system no longer automatically introduces new versions of libraries” << This just happened? | 20:53 |
| dimsum__ | dhellmann: lifeless ^^ | 20:53 |
| dimsum__ | what about for external python libraries? | 20:53 |
| dimsum__ | am reading https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227998/1/doc/source/instructions.rst,cm | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | dimsum__: badly phrased, the bot still introduces them, but releasing a library doesn't cause it to be used | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | I'll work on that wording | 20:55 |
| dimsum__ | thanks dhellmann | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: Add instructions for linking a requirements update to release request https://review.openstack.org/227998 | 20:59 |
| dhellmann | dimsum__: try that ^^ | 20:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: import manila-ui history https://review.openstack.org/226414 | 21:04 |
| dimsum__ | dhellmann: reads better, in the "Prepare an update to the openstack/requirements" we should somehow say that upper-constraints.txt is definitely needed, but g-r is needed only when you need features from the library for active use. it talks about u-c after g-r so that message is lost a bit. | 21:04 |
| dimsum__ | Also we have to say somewhere that the requirements/repo patch will only work after the releases patch is merged signifying that the release has been made | 21:05 |
| dimsum__ | they should not assume that if they filed both reviews, somehow it would magically test the new release even before we cut it | 21:06 |
| dimsum__ | thanks dhellmann. very important additions | 21:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: Move instructions from readme to published docs https://review.openstack.org/227997 | 21:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: Add instructions for linking a requirements update to release request https://review.openstack.org/227998 | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | dimsum__: updated (and rebased) | 21:11 |
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| dimsum__ | awesome thanks! | 21:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Move instructions from readme to published docs https://review.openstack.org/227997 | 21:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Add instructions for linking a requirements update to release request https://review.openstack.org/227998 | 21:56 |
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