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| lifeless | dhellmann: hi | 14:57 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: two things; I'm confused about the release schedule, and, if you're going to be around all day,perhaps tag a pbr now that https://review.openstack.org/193372 has landed? | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: how are you confused about the schedule? | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I can tag a release if you'll be online for a while in case there's fallout | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: or, better, I could walk you though doing it | 15:17 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I've tagged pbr releases many times, and been using your tooling for announces etc recently; that doesn't bother me. | 15:18 |
| lifeless | no, its 3am here, and sat tomorrow which is why I asked about your being around :) | 15:18 |
| lifeless | schedule: I thought from the summit that we were going to do releases mondayish | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: ok, I'd prefer to wait for monday then for pbr | 15:18 |
| lifeless | but you've happily released the doc stuff today | 15:18 |
| lifeless | this confused me, I want to update my heuristics about whats ok | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | yeah, this doc tools thing isn't going to break anyone except the docs folks who were asking for the release | 15:18 |
| lifeless | pbr - kk, I'll tag it my monday if some infra folk are around | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | if it's likely to break the gate, I want it early in the day and early in the week for the person capable of dealing with fallout -- not necessarily the same as the person tagging | 15:19 |
| lifeless | otherwise, my tuesday if its not already tagged by then | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | otherwise, it's less necessary to be strict | 15:19 |
| lifeless | k | 15:19 |
| lifeless | it wasn't clear how much discretion you were anticipating from the team | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | but yeah I figure we'll make judgement calls, as with the docs thing today | 15:20 |
| lifeless | kk | 15:20 |
| lifeless | righto, back to bed for me :) | 15:20 |
| lifeless | thanks! | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | I'd prefer not to make lots of exceptions, since that sets bad expectations that everything is an exception, but you know, be flexible | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: sleep well, sir | 15:20 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 19:27 |
| dhellmann | hi, Rockyg | 19:27 |
| dhellmann | so, a use-case repo? | 19:27 |
| Rockyg | Right. And the discussion was separate one versus a directory structure under openstack-specs | 19:28 |
| dhellmann | hmm | 19:29 |
| dhellmann | who is going to be contributing to the repo, and reviewing the changes? | 19:29 |
| Rockyg | We've defined the founding cores as sean roberts, carol barrett, shamail and me | 19:29 |
| dhellmann | the specs repo is managed by the TC, so we would need to coordinate with them if you wanted to extend it | 19:29 |
| Rockyg | contributors will be users and ops and possibly a few devs | 19:29 |
| dhellmann | it sounds like if you already have a core team, a new repo is going to let you get moving more smoothly | 19:29 |
| Rockyg | Cool. | 19:30 |
| Rockyg | OpenStack-UseCases? | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | ok, so we can work through http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html to get that done | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | I would stick to all lower case for the name, but otherwise that's probably good | 19:31 |
| Rockyg | OK. I know I've gotta write a spec/proposal | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | is this going to be published as a manual somewhere? | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | well, no, if you have a working group and they want a repo we should be able to just get that created | 19:32 |
| dhellmann | some of the things in that document won't apply, since it's not a code deliverable, but you should think about whether you want a launchpad project anyway for doing tracking or if you're doing that some other way | 19:32 |
| Rockyg | Interesting question. We want to find the commonalities across verticals/horizontals, then write specs or RFCs or backlog for the derived functionality | 19:32 |
| dhellmann | ok, so this might start out as something you just look at in the repo, and you can worry about publishing it later if that becomes useful to you | 19:33 |
| dhellmann | and I think in that case I would skip the launchpad project for now | 19:33 |
| Rockyg | Launchpad...another good question/suggestion. Maybe so. I'll bring it up at Monday's meeting. I can start on the rest, though. | 19:34 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:34 |
| dhellmann | do you already have content you want to import? | 19:34 |
| Rockyg | We've got the stuff on etherpads and in google docs. I can action item the collection at the meeting | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | you can also skip the stuff about the python package index, since you won't be publishing releases | 19:35 |
| Rockyg | I think we have a templace, though | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | ok, but not an existing git repository? | 19:35 |
| Rockyg | It'll be typical oslo-sphynx/RST | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | there's a step in the instructions where you do something different if you already have a git repo | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | ok, cool | 19:35 |
| Rockyg | Yeah. If there is stuff in repositories, it's the telco use cases. Not sure about those | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | so let's go through the steps in http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html now together and identify the ones you need to do, and then I can help you out with those things | 19:36 |
| dhellmann | we can keep notes in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-usecases-repo-creation for now | 19:36 |
| Rockyg | name: openstack-usecases | 19:36 |
| Rockyg | plural or singular? | 19:37 |
| dhellmann | Rockyg: does the working group have its own IRC channel? | 19:44 |
| Rockyg | no | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | ok, so you can skip that | 19:44 |
| Rockyg | question: where do all these files I'm creating get put? | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | now, the governance repo change is interesting | 19:45 |
| dhellmann | Rockyg: oh, that's covered in the instructions, but it's the openstack-infra/project-config repo for everything so far | 19:45 |
| dhellmann | I'm just hitting the highlights on what to *not* do, or how to interpret the "if this then that" instructions for you, you'll still need to go through the whole document to get the details | 19:45 |
| Rockyg | ah. OK. I knew project.yaml, since that's a mod, but didn't know the others | 19:46 |
| dhellmann | ok, so that should give you the basics but let me know if you get stuck on any steps and I'll try to help you out | 19:52 |
| dhellmann | Rockyg: if you have a linux system, you can run the tests in the project_config repo using tox, before you submit the patch. It only takes a minute or two, and should save you some back-and-forth if you miss something in the first draft | 19:53 |
| Rockyg | Don't have one. Had eclipse set up on my system and the doc stuff worked there, but got a new system. Now I have tortoise. | 19:55 |
| Rockyg | I'll see what I can get setup. | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | k | 19:55 |
| Rockyg | gonna get yet a different laptop. Need more than 32b and 4Gmemory :P | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | if you can't run the tests locally, it may just take a little more time, but if you get a patch up and it's failing I can help you figure out why -- it's easy for me to download a patch you've uploaded | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 19:56 |
| Rockyg | kewl! Thanks! | 19:56 |
| dhellmann | Rockyg: you should get some cloud capacity ;-) | 19:56 |
| Rockyg | So, I think I'm off and staggering? | 19:56 |
| dhellmann | I think so, yes. I'm usually here or in -infra if you run into trouble. | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | infra might be good, since if I'm not around one of the infra team could help you, too | 19:58 |
| Rockyg | Great. Thanks so much! | 19:58 |
| Rockyg | I've got just too many irons in the fire at the moment. I need to find some delegates;-) | 19:58 |
| dhellmann | Rockyg: minions ftw | 20:09 |
| dimsum__ | ++ :) | 20:10 |
| Rockyg | <snicker> | 20:11 |
| Rockyg | got the proj config repo cloned and editing the yaml file now.... | 20:11 |
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| dhellmann | Rockyg: I'm going offline soon, so ping me Monday if you have issues with the new repo | 21:05 |
| Rockyg | So far, so good. thanks for all your help! | 21:08 |
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