Monday, 2015-06-15

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pabelangermorning12:11
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dhellmanngood moring, pabelanger12:56
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: let the caller specify the project owner  https://review.openstack.org/19180914:04
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dhellmannttx: I sent a release announcement to the -announce list, but it appears to be held up for moderation. Who manages that list? reed?14:09
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: use announce list instead of dev list  https://review.openstack.org/19181514:12
ttxdhellmann: me14:12
ttxI'll add you to the whotelist14:12
ttxor the whitelist14:13
dhellmannoh, ok -- I went ahead and resent that message to the -dev list so it would go out right away14:13
dhellmannyeah, pick one :-)14:13
ttxso now your messages shall go through unmoderated14:14
dhellmannok, sounds good14:14
dhellmannwe'll want to do that for dims, too14:14
ttxdhellmann: would you be interested in moderating that ML ? Current co-moderator is markmc but he's kept off the list duties forever now14:15
dhellmannsure14:15
ttxI generally cover 98% of it, but always good to have two names there14:15
dhellmannI can never remember, for mailman, if there can be multiple administrator passwords or if you'll need to give me the One for that list14:16
ttxI think there is a way to get the password emailed to you14:18
ttxonce you follow the first moderation emails14:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: Add make_feature_branch.sh  https://review.openstack.org/18622214:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: create missing milestones when releasing libraries  https://review.openstack.org/18690314:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: Remove last vestiges of alpha release handling  https://review.openstack.org/18843014:47
ttxdhellmann: the backlog of merges introduced a merge conflict, sorry about that14:48
dhellmannttx: np, I'll straighten it out14:48
dhellmannttx: I'm not sure what you mean by "once you follow the first moderation emails"?14:49
ttxerr. where did I write that ?14:49
dhellmannrelated to the mailman moderator password14:49
ttxoh, righ tthere14:50
ttxwhen there is somethign to moderate, you receive an email with the link to the moderation panel14:50
dhellmannah, ok14:50
dhellmannso you've set me as moderator, and now I just need to wait for something to moderate :-)14:50
ttxif you follow that link you get a page that (IIRC) includes an "email password to me" thing14:50
ttxI think so14:51
dhellmannok14:51
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: let the caller specify the project owner  https://review.openstack.org/19180915:01
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: use announce list instead of dev list  https://review.openstack.org/19181515:01
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Save email body for release notes  https://review.openstack.org/18762115:01
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: improve email format with stable and other tags  https://review.openstack.org/18762215:01
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Add release_many.sh  https://review.openstack.org/18985815:01
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add project owner to email topic tags automatically  https://review.openstack.org/18762315:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: Save email body for release notes  https://review.openstack.org/18762116:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: improve email format with stable and other tags  https://review.openstack.org/18762216:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: add project owner to email topic tags automatically  https://review.openstack.org/18762316:45
dhellmannttx: I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189856/ to remove some projects we aren't already managing, and submitted the other governance changes we discussed starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191890/117:05
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mesterydhellmann: Question for you on changing to semantic versioning for a neutron backend repository if you have a moment.17:49
mesterydhellmann: See here (https://github.com/openstack/networking-odl/blob/master/setup.cfg#L3), I'd like to change this to semantic versioning to match the server.17:49
mesterydhellmann: Is it as easy as changing the version there to something like 12.0.0 (to match what the server will be in Liberty)?17:49
dhellmannmestery: yes, although we're going to be using versions based on the number of integrated cycles a project has existed, so new ones may end up starting 1.0.0 instead of 1217:51
dhellmannmestery: after I finish reading email I'm going to work on producing a list of proposed versions for projects, so I'll make sure to include that case for new projects17:51
mesterydhellmann: OK, so would you advise to changing networking-odl to 1.0.0 in honor of that?17:51
mesterydhellmann: fantastic, thank you!17:51
mesteryI think other networking-foo projects will have similar issues17:52
mesteryI'm in the process of looking at these now to ensure consistent releasing to pypi, etc.17:52
mesterydhellmann: BTW: What is this "finish reading email" you speak of? Mine never ends ;)17:52
dhellmannmestery: yes, I think 1.0.0 is appropriate for that case, if the goal for the end of the cycle is a production-ready release17:52
mesterydhellmann: cool17:52
dhellmannmestery: I'm wearing out the delete key on my mailbox :-)17:53
mesterylol17:53
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Add list_repos_by_tag.py  https://review.openstack.org/19122718:11
dhellmannttx: hmm, we can't use "how long has a project been integrated" as the basis for their next release version, because many projects had releases before they were integrated18:25
dhellmannall of them, probably, since that was a requirement at one point18:25
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Add show_legacy_releases.sh  https://review.openstack.org/19122818:27
dhellmannmestery: speaking of versions, openstack/neutron-fwaas has a bunch of old-looking tags, so I may need your help picking version numbers18:39
dhellmannmestery: I think maybe not 8.0.0, for example :-)18:39
mesterydhellmann: yikes, ok, lets do that, on a call now, give me a bit18:39
dhellmannmestery: ok, whenever you're free18:39
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Add show_legacy_releases.sh  https://review.openstack.org/19122818:42
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dhellmannmestery: have time to chat about those version numbers?21:14
lifelessdhellmann: I've read the meeting notes btw21:18
dhellmannlifeless: ok, good -- was there anything there you wanted to talk about?21:19
lifelessautomation++ :)21:19
lifelessnothing lept out as suprising or onerous21:19
lifelessdhellmann: mestery: btw you may be able to just remove the version = line from projects21:19
lifelessparticularly if you're moving to semver21:20
dhellmannlifeless: we're still doing pre-versioning for most of the servers, though21:23
lifelessdhellmann: So consider this me asking 'why' :)21:23
dhellmannI do want to move away from that, after we've had experience with ironic doing it21:23
lifelessok21:23
lifelessack21:23
dhellmannlifeless: one change at a time21:23
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