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ttx | asalkeld: around? | 09:01 |
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asalkeld | hi | 09:02 |
ttx | #startmeeting ptl_sync | 09:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 09:02:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
ttx | #topic Heat | 09:02 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ptl_sync' | 09:02 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 09:02 |
ttx | OK, so objective for today is to make sure all things here are blockers before we can do a RC1 | 09:03 |
* asalkeld updating a bp state | 09:03 | |
ttx | Let's start with blueprints first | 09:03 |
asalkeld | ok | 09:03 |
ttx | So you have two exceptions left | 09:03 |
ttx | Did you have anything requested on-list left unadressed ? | 09:03 |
ttx | or is it the complete set here ? | 09:04 |
asalkeld | that's it | 09:04 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/convergence-push-data | 09:04 |
asalkeld | that is very close | 09:04 |
asalkeld | and one patch | 09:04 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161306/ ? | 09:04 |
asalkeld | yip that's it | 09:04 |
ttx | Cool, so that one whould be done by end of week | 09:05 |
asalkeld | totally' | 09:05 |
asalkeld | the mistral one is more work, but it's in contrib/ | 09:05 |
ttx | #info convergence-push-data one patch away, to be completed before EOW | 09:05 |
ttx | We still need it for RC1 though | 09:05 |
asalkeld | so if it makes it great, and if not - I am not overly stressed | 09:05 |
ttx | #info mistral-resources-for-heat is contrib/, not really blocking RC1 | 09:06 |
asalkeld | agree | 09:06 |
ttx | Bugs now... Is this list the result of deferring previously-targeted work, or an analysis of all current issues reported ? | 09:06 |
ttx | i.e. did you go through all bugs and target those ? | 09:07 |
asalkeld | ttx: what i did was go through ALL High bugs | 09:07 |
asalkeld | and either target for rc1, or move to lower priority | 09:07 |
ttx | ok | 09:07 |
asalkeld | so those could change | 09:07 |
asalkeld | but i thought it was good to highlight high priortiy bugs | 09:08 |
ttx | You need to have assignees on all of them, otherwise it's unlikely they will get done for RC1 in any reasonable timeframe | 09:08 |
asalkeld | ok, i'll chase that | 09:08 |
ttx | #info 26 bugs targeted | 09:08 |
asalkeld | i should probably ditch some | 09:08 |
ttx | yeah, it's a bit of a large list ,for a blockers list | 09:08 |
asalkeld | ok, i'll get stuck in | 09:09 |
ttx | You can use kilo-rc-potential as a tag to build an extra list of nice-to-have | 09:09 |
ttx | and keep rc1 targeting as a blockers list | 09:09 |
asalkeld | ok, good idea | 09:09 |
ttx | That way we use the RC1 page as a timer... when all is completed we know we could do a RC1 | 09:09 |
ttx | but then people can pick and fix bugs from the rc-potential list too | 09:10 |
asalkeld | aaa, like a backlog | 09:10 |
asalkeld | will do | 09:10 |
ttx | it's more of a "must-fix" vs. "should fix" thing | 09:10 |
asalkeld | ok | 09:10 |
ttx | If you deplete the must-fix list too quickly, we can add more "should-fix" to it, too :) | 09:11 |
asalkeld | lets hope we get to hat | 09:11 |
asalkeld | that | 09:11 |
ttx | asalkeld: the game is usually more like... every week you remove half of the remaining ones from the blockers list | 09:11 |
ttx | but ideally that would be must-fix and should-fix | 09:12 |
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asalkeld | either re-target or fix | 09:12 |
asalkeld | thanks ttx | 09:12 |
ttx | so yes, on the bugs side, please assign people, reduce it to real release blockers, and build a backlog list using the tag | 09:12 |
ttx | We'll see how that number progresses next week and how fast we burn them down | 09:12 |
ttx | asalkeld: have a nice day! | 09:13 |
ttx | (or night) | 09:13 |
asalkeld | you too ttx | 09:13 |
ttx | johnthetubaguy: hi! | 09:13 |
johnthetubaguy | ttx: good morning | 09:13 |
ttx | #topic Nova | 09:13 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 09:13 |
ttx | I'm admirative of that small list of BPs, but I suspect that's not including all the requests you had on the list | 09:14 |
ttx | Is there any we should discuss the addition of ? Or you turned them all down already ? | 09:14 |
* ttx admits not having parsed the FFE requests from the ML yet | 09:14 | |
johnthetubaguy | hey, sorry, lots my IRC connection there | 09:15 |
ttx | what's the last thing you had ? | 09:15 |
johnthetubaguy | I saw small list of BPs | 09:15 |
johnthetubaguy | and is there any others | 09:16 |
johnthetubaguy | then you mentioned the ML | 09:16 |
ttx | johnthetubaguy: my question was, is that list the complete list of FFEs or should we discuss any addition ? | 09:16 |
ttx | Can't find any on the ML actually, so I guess the "soft FF at k-2" worked | 09:16 |
johnthetubaguy | so I don't know of any others, we are basically not advertising that its possible to get an exception very well | 09:16 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, it has slowed things down at least | 09:17 |
johnthetubaguy | I think the list is good for now, basically | 09:17 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/online-schema-changes | 09:17 |
ttx | pending on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154521/ ? | 09:17 |
johnthetubaguy | yes, thats the only patch for the BP basically | 09:18 |
johnthetubaguy | I need to talk to johannes about that one to check what his plans are | 09:18 |
ttx | Looks like reviewing has stalled on this one | 09:18 |
ttx | (lacking new patchset) | 09:18 |
johnthetubaguy | I know he is busy on other things, so I need to ask what could be moved | 09:18 |
ttx | also feels like something you wouldn't want to merge at the last minute | 09:19 |
johnthetubaguy | I will push on that, its something we all want merged if possible | 09:19 |
ttx | I'm fine with it, but it needs to land earlier rather than later | 09:19 |
ttx | needs testing | 09:19 |
johnthetubaguy | its a parallel execution path that will be experimental, but yes, needs to land, ASAP | 09:19 |
ttx | hmm | 09:19 |
ttx | if it's really parallel and experimental, I guess it's not /that/ urgent | 09:20 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, its basically like an alternative way to do migrations | 09:20 |
ttx | I misinterpreted it | 09:20 |
johnthetubaguy | you can use it, or the old way, both work | 09:20 |
ttx | (but then, it's not the first time you tell me about it, I just keep on forgetting) | 09:20 |
johnthetubaguy | (and they lock each other out) | 09:20 |
johnthetubaguy | no worries, its low ish risk, anways | 09:20 |
johnthetubaguy | the other one is very different... | 09:21 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/v3-api-policy | 09:21 |
ttx | Right, this one seems like a collection of poatches that are easier to land individually, but loads of them | 09:21 |
ttx | Also unclear if that can be "finished" | 09:22 |
johnthetubaguy | so… I think we might want to mark this complete, and stop the review on the other things today ish | 09:22 |
johnthetubaguy | mostly, as you say, not sure it will get finished | 09:22 |
ttx | At the very minimum we need to set a deadline | 09:23 |
ttx | Like : review and merge before Thursday, rest is deferred | 09:23 |
johnthetubaguy | I am good with that | 09:23 |
johnthetubaguy | I will try reach out and ask them to abandon the stuff thats not very close | 09:24 |
ttx | That gives the people working on it a last chance to scramble on reviews | 09:24 |
ttx | not sure how much it makes sense as partial work | 09:24 |
ttx | Looks like a cleanup | 09:24 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, some is just cleanup | 09:25 |
ttx | enforce at API layer rather than DB | 09:25 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, its moving checks | 09:25 |
johnthetubaguy | basically means the v3 policy will eventually all be easy to understand | 09:25 |
johnthetubaguy | but we are not there yet, even if we merge all the patches that are up | 09:25 |
ttx | ok, let's give tyhem two more days and then call the partial work complete | 09:26 |
johnthetubaguy | as I understand it, anyways | 09:26 |
ttx | That way we should be done with FFEs (except shit happens) at EOW | 09:26 |
ttx | which is pretty good compared to previous occurences | 09:26 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, sounds good | 09:26 |
ttx | Then there is work to do on the RC bug list | 09:26 |
johnthetubaguy | ah, yes, I did ask folks to start looking for blockers | 09:27 |
ttx | Did you do a pass on the critical/high issues yet ? Or is the current list the result of deferrals ? | 09:27 |
johnthetubaguy | I honestly haven't dug into that yet | 09:27 |
ttx | For example, there is no point in keeping in the list work that was deferred successively since juno-2 | 09:27 |
johnthetubaguy | agreed | 09:27 |
johnthetubaguy | except for the embarrassing one we want someone to fix, but we best find someone to fix it | 09:28 |
ttx | I'd rather have realistic blockers, and keep unlikely fixes in the kilo-rc-potential list | 09:28 |
ttx | embarassing one = https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1383465 | 09:29 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1383465 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "[pci-passthrough] nova-compute fails to start" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Yongli He (yongli-he) | 09:29 |
ttx | ? | 09:29 |
johnthetubaguy | yes, thats the one | 09:29 |
ttx | I think we could unassign it | 09:29 |
ttx | that would reflect better the situation | 09:29 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats a good idea | 09:29 |
ttx | I'll do it | 09:29 |
johnthetubaguy | ah, done it | 09:30 |
johnthetubaguy | the tag is kilo-rc-potential right? | 09:30 |
johnthetubaguy | so I guess everything targeted is a blocker, stuff with the tag could be a blocker | 09:30 |
ttx | OK, so objectives for this week -- finalize both FFE, build a list of must-fix in rc1 and good-to-fix in kilo-rc-potential | 09:30 |
johnthetubaguy | gotcha | 09:31 |
johnthetubaguy | sounds good | 09:31 |
ttx | that is alml, have a great week! | 09:31 |
ttx | all* | 09:31 |
johnthetubaguy | cool, thanks, and you | 09:31 |
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eglynn | ttx: ready when you are | 13:00 |
ttx | #topic Ceilometer | 13:00 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 13:00 |
ttx | So if I'm to trust that list you have no exception yet | 13:01 |
eglynn | yeap, so nothing critical as yet and obviously no FFEs | 13:01 |
ttx | good all around | 13:01 |
eglynn | what date-ish did you have in mind for the rc1 tag? | 13:01 |
ttx | Did you parse the bug list into a set of blockers ? | 13:01 |
ttx | or are those carried-over from k3 ? | 13:02 |
eglynn | mostly carry-overs | 13:02 |
ttx | So I'd say starting next week we can start tagging RC1s | 13:02 |
ttx | you need to go through the bug list to make sure there are no leftovers | 13:02 |
ttx | and then refine the list so that it's actually RC1 blockers there | 13:02 |
ttx | then when the list is empty we can tag RC1 and carry on with our liberty lives | 13:03 |
eglynn | sure, cool | 13:03 |
eglynn | so next week a bit earlier than envisaged by https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule ? | 13:03 |
eglynn | or just getting ahead for the project that we can? | 13:03 |
ttx | The release schedule shows the likely dates | 13:03 |
eglynn | a-ha, k | 13:04 |
ttx | RC1 is tagged when all known issues are fixed :) | 13:04 |
ttx | all (significant) known issues | 13:04 |
ttx | so we just need to be reasonably sure it's good | 13:04 |
eglynn | cool, got it | 13:04 |
ttx | and parsing the bug list is the first step to gaining that confidence | 13:04 |
eglynn | cool, I'm on it :) | 13:05 |
ttx | so by next week, we'll reduce the RC1 buglist to real blockers, you can move oithers to kilo-rc-potential to keep them somewhere | 13:05 |
ttx | ("kilo-rc-potential" tag) | 13:05 |
ttx | that's a good "nice-to-fix" list | 13:05 |
eglynn | cool, got it | 13:06 |
ttx | That's all I had -- easy when no FFE :) | 13:06 |
eglynn | then post-RC1, only release-critical fixes, right? | 13:06 |
ttx | post-RC1, we need some critical issue to open a new RC window | 13:06 |
eglynn | (so slight incentive there not to rush into rc1 earlier?) | 13:06 |
ttx | then we can pile up a reasonable amount of other fix backports | 13:07 |
ttx | eglynn: I wouldn't say that... | 13:07 |
ttx | You need some significant bug to fix to make it worth the pain | 13:07 |
ttx | but then you can collect bugs that are fixed in master and backport them easily | 13:07 |
eglynn | cool, got it | 13:08 |
ttx | so, yes, no rush obviously, but "minor" bugfixes can get it in future RCs alright | 13:08 |
ttx | especially if you're far from release date | 13:08 |
ttx | the trick is to have at least one RC you can fall back to and release on common release date | 13:09 |
eglynn | cool, makes sense | 13:09 |
ttx | alright, have a good week! | 13:09 |
ttx | SergeyLukjanov: ready when you are | 13:09 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, hi | 13:10 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I'm here | 13:10 |
ttx | #topic Sahara | 13:10 |
eglynn | you too, thanks for your time! | 13:10 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 13:10 |
ttx | I see 3 FFEs in your future | 13:10 |
ttx | Is that the complete list at this point ? | 13:11 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, correct, no new FFEs expected, current ones are pretty near to be done | 13:11 |
ttx | ok, let's have a look | 13:11 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/add-timeouts-for-polling | 13:11 |
ttx | one more patch ? | 13:11 |
SergeyLukjanov | 1 CR left | 13:12 |
SergeyLukjanov | yup | 13:12 |
ttx | #info add-timeouts-for-polling -- one more patch, to be completed before EOW | 13:12 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/default-templates | 13:12 |
ttx | 6 easy patches ? | 13:12 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yeah, we're now ensuring that stuff done in the same way for all plugins | 13:13 |
ttx | #info default-templates -- 6 easy patches, probably complete by EOW | 13:13 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/edp-job-types-endpoint | 13:13 |
ttx | Is taht one or two more patches ? | 13:14 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, 1 important CR left (MapR) | 13:14 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166494/ looks further away | 13:14 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, few more patches preferred but we'll accept them only if done before EOW | 13:14 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, it's preferred but optional | 13:14 |
ttx | #info edp-job-types-endpoint -- one patch almost there, one optional patch, to be completed before EOW | 13:15 |
ttx | OK, looks under control | 13:15 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yup, it's going as expected | 13:15 |
ttx | 20 bugs on the RC1 list, is that the result of a bug scrub, or just the carry-overs from previous milestones ? | 13:15 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, no topics from my side for today's cross project | 13:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, carry-overs | 13:16 |
ttx | Would be good to do a bug scrub and target the release blockers instead | 13:16 |
ttx | and move optional nice-to-haves to kilo-rc-potential tag | 13:16 |
ttx | So that by next week we know how far from RC1 we actually are | 13:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, ack, I'll ensure list cleaned up by EOW | 13:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, there a lot of docs related bugs in the list | 13:17 |
ttx | sounds good. Have a great week then | 13:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | and test | 13:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, thank you! you too | 13:17 |
ttx | cheers! | 13:17 |
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ttx | mestery: I have a call at our usual time (last week before DST here), so if we can talk now, the better | 14:25 |
mestery | ttx: I'm running the neutron meeting now, lets see if I can multi-task. Go! | 14:25 |
ttx | #topic Neutron | 14:25 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 14:26 |
ttx | So that is more FFEs that I'd like to have | 14:26 |
mestery | YEs, we're discussing them now | 14:26 |
mestery | the two IPAM ones I just moved out | 14:26 |
mestery | We're working our way down the list | 14:26 |
mestery | I guess meeting in an hour would have been better ;) | 14:26 |
ttx | ok, maybe I should talk to you later then :) | 14:26 |
mestery | as I'd have more info | 14:26 |
mestery | yeah, I guess that makes more sense | 14:26 |
mestery | Either later today or tomorrow? | 14:26 |
mestery | Your choise | 14:27 |
ttx | later today should be fine, will ping you | 14:27 |
ttx | #undo | 14:27 |
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mestery | Thanks ttx! | 14:27 |
ttx | oooh. Multiple undoi levels! | 14:27 |
mestery | lol | 14:27 |
ttx | wasn't sure that would work. Meetbot is already smarter than Word 95 | 14:28 |
ttx | nikhil_k: interested in going now ? | 14:28 |
nikhil_k | ttx: yes | 14:28 |
nikhil_k | hi | 14:28 |
ttx | #topic Glance | 14:28 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 14:29 |
ttx | So I see two FFEs, is that the complete list you have ? | 14:29 |
nikhil_k | yes | 14:29 |
ttx | Your email mentioned pass-targets-to-policy-enforcer, that was moved out, right? | 14:30 |
nikhil_k | ttx: yes, that is implemented | 14:30 |
nikhil_k | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/pass-targets-to-policy-enforcer | 14:30 |
ttx | oh, back in k3, nice | 14:30 |
ttx | Let's look at those remaining ones | 14:31 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/artifact-repository | 14:31 |
ttx | Is that waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/artifact-repository,n,z ? | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | yes | 14:31 |
ttx | How far is it ? Keeping such a large feature non-landed is concerning | 14:31 |
ttx | and I don't see a lot of progress lately | 14:32 |
nikhil_k | I'm trying to get people to review it and review myself | 14:32 |
nikhil_k | It's been discussed and talked over for months so, I think we will go with it for now | 14:33 |
nikhil_k | I can update you more on Thursday | 14:33 |
ttx | Right, I would prefer not to have the same discussion in one week | 14:33 |
nikhil_k | ok sure | 14:33 |
ttx | So let's give it one more week. If it can't land then, it never will | 14:33 |
nikhil_k | ok, thanks for letting me know | 14:33 |
ttx | #info artifact-repository a bit lagging, must land before next Tuesday or we'll defer | 14:34 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/catalog-index-service | 14:34 |
ttx | That one also seems to be lagging -- feature is slightly less critical, but still | 14:34 |
ttx | I'm inclined to give it the same rule | 14:35 |
ttx | to be merged befor | 14:35 |
ttx | e next Tuesday | 14:35 |
nikhil_k | (sure) | 14:35 |
ttx | #info catalog-index-service a bit lagging too, must land before next Tuesday or we'll defer | 14:36 |
ttx | Once that is covered we need to build the RC1 buglist | 14:36 |
nikhil_k | sounds good | 14:36 |
ttx | i.e. you should parse bug lists and see what should be blocking release and RC1 | 14:36 |
ttx | all the nice-to-haves could be tracked using kilo-rc-potential instead | 14:37 |
nikhil_k | roger | 14:37 |
ttx | so that we only have blockers in the RC1 list | 14:37 |
ttx | so ideally we'd have that list at our sync next week | 14:37 |
ttx | but you may be distracted by those FFEs in the mean time | 14:37 |
ttx | (one of the reasons those are harmful) | 14:37 |
ttx | do what you can :) | 14:38 |
nikhil_k | heh, thanks | 14:38 |
ttx | nikhil_k: have a good and busy week :) | 14:38 |
nikhil_k | ttx: :) | 14:38 |
nikhil_k | ttx: have a nice one yourself! | 14:38 |
ttx | david-lyle: interested in talking now ? | 14:38 |
ttx | or we can do our usual time, my call should be over by then | 14:39 |
david-lyle | ttx: ready, if now works | 14:49 |
ttx | david-lyle: o/ | 14:50 |
ttx | #topic Horizon | 14:50 |
ttx | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 14:50 |
ttx | I see 3 FFEs, any more on the (heh) horizon ? | 14:50 |
david-lyle | 1 possible for SSO with Keystone, fairly small change | 14:50 |
david-lyle | would be great to have but needs a little more work | 14:51 |
ttx | link? | 14:52 |
david-lyle | I can add it, and remove if we can't get it in shape | 14:52 |
david-lyle | finding | 14:52 |
ttx | yes, add it and we'll review it now | 14:52 |
david-lyle | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/federated-identity | 14:52 |
david-lyle | added in | 14:53 |
david-lyle | keystone folks will be happy | 14:53 |
ttx | how far is this one ? | 14:53 |
david-lyle | patches are up, horizon side needs a couple of fixes | 14:53 |
ttx | is that only those two patches ? | 14:53 |
david-lyle | django_openstack_auth pieces needs another round too | 14:53 |
david-lyle | yes | 14:53 |
ttx | I'm fine with cutting some slack to horizon since you need to play catch-up with features all the time | 14:53 |
david-lyle | ok, I'll work with keystone to get them finalized | 14:54 |
ttx | Is that something you think could land before our next sync ? | 14:54 |
david-lyle | I would hope so | 14:54 |
david-lyle | especially the horizon side | 14:54 |
ttx | #info federated-identity -- late feature catch-up, ideally would merge before Tuesday next week | 14:54 |
david-lyle | just very small issues on that piece | 14:54 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/django18 | 14:55 |
david-lyle | that is a testing in the gate issue | 14:55 |
david-lyle | the patch is in Horizon | 14:55 |
david-lyle | so at worst, global requirements doesn't include Django > 1.6 | 14:55 |
david-lyle | and people use it anyway | 14:55 |
ttx | so we could consider this one complete, just badly tested until we get our s*t together ? | 14:56 |
david-lyle | well it's misleading because we can't update global-requirements | 14:56 |
david-lyle | but yeah | 14:56 |
ttx | I'm inclined to consider it implemented and log a RC1 bug about testing | 14:56 |
david-lyle | it could be a line in the release notes | 14:56 |
ttx | which we could turn into a release note if we can't fix it, yes | 14:56 |
ttx | let's do that | 14:56 |
david-lyle | ok, I'll update and add bug | 14:57 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/angularize-identity-tables | 14:57 |
ttx | hmm, a bit unclear what that hinges on | 14:57 |
david-lyle | that still has a little more work on getting the patch in order | 14:57 |
ttx | lots of patches marked WIP in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/angularize-identity-tables,n,z | 14:57 |
ttx | I'm inclined to give it one more week, do you think that's doable in that timeframe ? | 14:58 |
david-lyle | I think so | 14:58 |
david-lyle | Really only one patch, the others are small utilities and I just -2'd one that was attached incorrectly | 14:59 |
ttx | #info angularize-identity-tables -- needs to be finalized before next week | 15:00 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/fwaas-router-insertion | 15:00 |
david-lyle | the WIP should be removed from the commit messate | 15:00 |
david-lyle | late feature in neutron | 15:00 |
ttx | ack, let's put it in the same bucket as the first one | 15:00 |
david-lyle | amotoki is reviewing and I will as well | 15:00 |
david-lyle | sure | 15:00 |
ttx | #info fwaas-router-insertion -- late feature catch-up, ideally would merge before Tuesday next week | 15:01 |
ttx | quick look at the buglist | 15:01 |
ttx | I think most of those are carry-overs | 15:01 |
ttx | would be good to refine it to a manageable list of blockers | 15:01 |
ttx | even if that means tagging kilo-rc-potential all the nice-to-haves | 15:02 |
david-lyle | yes, none of those are blockers at this point | 15:02 |
david-lyle | I'll clean up the list | 15:02 |
ttx | ack | 15:02 |
ttx | david-lyle: thanks! need to run | 15:02 |
david-lyle | thanks | 15:02 |
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ttx | thingee: o/ | 15:40 |
ttx | Got time to sync now? | 15:40 |
thingee | ttx: yes sorry. I joined the room and didn't notice weechat was lagging. Got dropped from the wifi :( | 15:41 |
ttx | no pb, was on a call anyway :) | 15:41 |
ttx | #topic Cinder | 15:41 |
ttx | https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 15:41 |
ttx | That's an easy one, no FFE so far | 15:41 |
ttx | apart from the driver unremovals, did you have any FFE request ? | 15:42 |
thingee | ttx: not much targeted yet. Started triaging yesterday to make sure nothing big is missing | 15:42 |
thingee | nope | 15:42 |
ttx | sounds all good to me | 15:42 |
ttx | mestery: I'm around now if you are | 15:56 |
mestery | ttx: Ack, lets get this party started! :) | 15:56 |
ttx | #topic Neutron | 15:56 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 15:56 |
ttx | so... 7 | 15:56 |
mestery | Down to 9 specs, 2 of which are vendor drivers | 15:56 |
mestery | Yes | 15:56 |
ttx | That's more reasonable, but let's see them in detail :) | 15:56 |
mestery | effectively 7 | 15:56 |
mestery | OK, lets go! | 15:56 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/subnet-allocation | 15:56 |
mestery | That one we all agreed we need and can merge. | 15:57 |
mestery | So we have two main core reviewers on it, I expect it to land by next week or so. | 15:57 |
ttx | Lots of work needed still | 15:57 |
ttx | OK, let's give it another week if it's a top prio | 15:57 |
mestery | Yup, but I have been informed it's all doable | 15:57 |
mestery | Cool | 15:57 |
ttx | #info subnet-allocation -- should land before next 1:1, reconsider if not | 15:58 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/hyper-v-ovs-agent | 15:58 |
mestery | That one needs to be split into smaller patches, and if that happens we're confident it can merge by later this week. | 15:58 |
mestery | It's all on the patch author now | 15:58 |
mestery | It's low risk because it moves some code around and adds new Hyper-V specific code. | 15:58 |
ttx | How about we drop it if that can't be merged in the coming week ? | 15:59 |
mestery | WFM | 15:59 |
ttx | with that many exceptions, I'm more worried with distraction than code impact tbh | 15:59 |
mestery | Agreed | 15:59 |
ttx | #info hyper-v-ovs-agent -- needs to fully land by next Tuesday | 15:59 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/restructure-l3-agent | 15:59 |
mestery | 3 patches left, we're confident we can finish this one by Friday as well | 16:00 |
mestery | Sorry, 4. | 16:00 |
ttx | #info restructure-l3-agent -- 4 patches left, finalization of a partially merged feature. should land before next 1:1, reconsider if not | 16:00 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ipv6-router | 16:01 |
mestery | We're waiting on a tempest functional job for this one, and it depends on a patch from the multiple-prefix one. | 16:01 |
mestery | So this one is iffy, and again, if it doesn't land by Friday it should be out. | 16:01 |
ttx | #info ipv6-router -- needs to fully land by next Tuesday | 16:02 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/multiple-ipv6-prefixes | 16:02 |
ttx | same bag? | 16:02 |
mestery | Yup | 16:02 |
ttx | #info multiple-ipv6-prefixes -- related to previous one, needs to fully land by next Tuesday | 16:02 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/netscaler-lbass-v2-driver | 16:03 |
mestery | That one needs a working CI, which it doesn't have. | 16:03 |
ttx | how much time did you gave them | 16:03 |
ttx | ? | 16:03 |
mestery | We've given it and the radware one until Friday to merge. | 16:03 |
ttx | #info netscaler-lbass-v2-driver -- needs CI up, must merge before EOW | 16:03 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/radware-lbaas-driver | 16:04 |
ttx | same I suspect | 16:04 |
ttx | #info radware-lbaas-driver -- needs CI up, must merge before EOW | 16:04 |
mestery | Yup | 16:04 |
mestery | same | 16:04 |
ttx | OK, if we stick to those deadlines we should be good. My only gripe is that none of them actually looks like it's very close | 16:04 |
ttx | Means that it will be distracting, and despite the distraction we need to start focusing on bugs | 16:05 |
mestery | I hear you, but I've been firm on kicking things out that don't make the deadlines. | 16:05 |
mestery | I moved out pluggable IPAM to a room full of gripes today. | 16:05 |
ttx | In particular we'll need a list of RC1 blockers for next week | 16:05 |
mestery | Agreed | 16:05 |
mestery | We've started moving bugs out of RC which are not blockers. | 16:05 |
mestery | I have more work to do there. | 16:05 |
ttx | you can move the wishlist stuff to a kilo-rc-potential tag to keep track of them if you need to | 16:05 |
mestery | OK | 16:06 |
ttx | also a bug scrub on the general bug list is helpful to catch previously-overlooked issues | 16:06 |
mestery | those are plugin decomp tracking items | 16:06 |
mestery | Good idea | 16:06 |
ttx | just in case | 16:06 |
ttx | and then keep an eye on recently-filed bugs, as people start testing the thing we say is mostly there :) | 16:06 |
ttx | That is all I had | 16:07 |
mestery | Same for me. | 16:07 |
mestery | We're close ttx! :) | 16:07 |
mestery | Just need to get the proverbial ball over the goal line. | 16:07 |
mestery | ;) | 16:07 |
ttx | once you refine the bug list, make sure you have assignees for each blocker | 16:07 |
mestery | Ack | 16:07 |
ttx | otherwise they tend not to get a lot of attention :) | 16:07 |
ttx | alright then,n have a great and busy week :) | 16:07 |
ttx | you can relax when RC1 is done :) | 16:08 |
mestery | LOL | 16:08 |
mestery | Yeah, no kidding! | 16:08 |
mestery | And my son had tonsil surgery and ear tubes put in last week, so it's been nuts between that, the baby, and RC | 16:08 |
* mestery needs to take a vacation | 16:08 | |
ttx | mestery: I can only relax once the summit is done, so... | 16:09 |
mestery | ttx: :) | 16:09 |
mestery | thanks ttx! | 16:09 |
ttx | I entered "The Tunnel" | 16:09 |
mestery | lol | 16:09 |
ttx | there is light on the other side | 16:09 |
ttx | I can feel it | 16:09 |
mestery | Go towards the light! | 16:09 |
SlickNik | ttx: around? | 16:13 |
ttx | SlickNik: yes | 16:14 |
ttx | we can talk now | 16:14 |
SlickNik | Sounds good — forgot I needed to go to a doctor's appointment later, so this would be better. :) | 16:14 |
ttx | #topic Trove | 16:14 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 16:15 |
ttx | I see two FFEs left | 16:15 |
SlickNik | One of our FFE BPs is done | 16:15 |
ttx | I sthat the full set you've been asked for ? | 16:15 |
SlickNik | Yes, those two are all that's left and are pretty close. | 16:15 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/db2-plugin-for-trove | 16:15 |
ttx | I think we need a deadline for that one, as it's a key feature | 16:16 |
SlickNik | I've moved the others to liberty since they will not make it. | 16:16 |
ttx | what would be reasonable ? Before next Tuesday ? | 16:16 |
SlickNik | The deadline I'm telling folks is end of this week. | 16:16 |
ttx | ok | 16:16 |
ttx | #info db2-plugin-for-trove -- must land before EOW | 16:16 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/implement-vertica-cluster | 16:17 |
SlickNik | Same thing with this one. | 16:17 |
ttx | Looks about as far, same deadline ? | 16:17 |
ttx | ok | 16:17 |
ttx | #info implement-vertica-cluster -- must land before EOW | 16:17 |
SlickNik | Good progress made — and I think it's got a good shot of landing before the end of the week. | 16:17 |
ttx | Looking at the bug list now | 16:18 |
ttx | So ideally that list would be the list of release blockers we need to solve before we can tag a RC1 | 16:18 |
ttx | nice-to-haves should move to using the kilo-rc-potential tag | 16:18 |
ttx | so that you can find them | 16:18 |
SlickNik | That list has some punts from kilo-3 but which are not release blockers | 16:18 |
SlickNik | Let me go through them and clean that list up. | 16:18 |
ttx | right, so you should refine it and make sure the remaining stuff are blockers | 16:19 |
ttx | not necessarily now, but before next week | 16:19 |
SlickNik | #action SlickNik to clean up RC1 bugs to make sure they are true release blockers | 16:19 |
ttx | Doing a quick pass on Lcunhpad bugs to make sure you didn't overlook a critical issue is generally a good idea too | 16:19 |
SlickNik | Sounds good. | 16:19 |
ttx | that is all I had. Questions ? | 16:20 |
SlickNik | Will do that as well. | 16:20 |
SlickNik | No more questions from me. Thanks for your help! | 16:20 |
ttx | np! | 16:20 |
ttx | devananda: ping me when around | 16:20 |
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ttx | morganfainberg: ohai | 16:51 |
morganfainberg | \o | 16:51 |
ttx | #topic Keystone | 16:51 |
morganfainberg | Lots of FFE requests. | 16:51 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 16:52 |
morganfainberg | Sec moving off phone to desktop. | 16:52 |
ttx | yeah, but only one on the page so far | 16:52 |
ttx | sure | 16:52 |
morganfainberg | ok | 16:52 |
ttx | so let's start with that one | 16:52 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/model-timestamps | 16:52 |
* morganfainberg forgot to put the others on the rc-1 as blocked | 16:52 | |
ttx | is it one you support, or just some random person targeting it ? | 16:52 |
morganfainberg | that one i support, there is no API impact (or shouldn't be) | 16:53 |
ttx | we'll add them as we go | 16:53 |
ttx | how close is that ? | 16:53 |
ttx | we can give it until end of week alright | 16:53 |
morganfainberg | it should be a minor refactor. needs a rebase and probably 1 patchset | 16:53 |
ttx | more worried about distraction than impact tbh | 16:54 |
morganfainberg | i'm planning on handling the minor update [filter extra data before it hits the API] | 16:54 |
morganfainberg | it's the lowest priority though | 16:54 |
morganfainberg | lets just punt it till liberty | 16:54 |
ttx | #info model-timestamps -- to be merged before next Tuesday | 16:54 |
morganfainberg | it can land right off the bat next cycle. | 16:54 |
ttx | oh yes | 16:54 |
ttx | #undo | 16:54 |
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ttx | leaves room for more interesting ones | 16:55 |
morganfainberg | yeah and we have a bunch :( | 16:55 |
ttx | yes, you look like Nova now | 16:55 |
ttx | so let's see... | 16:55 |
ttx | I see a thread about domain configuration SQL support, fetching spec | 16:55 |
ttx | Looks like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/domain-config-ext | 16:56 |
morganfainberg | the Domain SQL is a couple follow up patches that didn't land | 16:56 |
morganfainberg | yeah | 16:56 |
morganfainberg | rather than rush them we opted for FFE | 16:56 |
morganfainberg | it should be ~3 small-ish reviews | 16:56 |
ttx | sounds good, finishing the work | 16:56 |
morganfainberg | most are heavily reviewed already | 16:56 |
ttx | should not take more than a week, right | 16:56 |
morganfainberg | correct | 16:56 |
ttx | #info domain-config-ext -- to be fully merged before Tuesday next week | 16:57 |
morganfainberg | should be merged this week if the exception is granted | 16:57 |
* ttx adds | 16:57 | |
ttx | next up is idp-id-registration | 16:57 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/idp-id-registration | 16:58 |
morganfainberg | this is ready to go. it was blocked by a critical bug | 16:58 |
morganfainberg | it should easily merge today or tomorrow | 16:58 |
ttx | so should merge in the coming days ? ok | 16:58 |
ttx | #info idp-id-registration -- to be completed before EOW | 16:58 |
morganfainberg | and by my count we have 2 big ones next. | 16:58 |
ttx | next up is the reseller stuff | 16:59 |
ttx | is that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/reseller ? | 16:59 |
morganfainberg | yeah | 16:59 |
morganfainberg | i'd really like to see this land in kilo. i think it's a tall order | 16:59 |
ttx | For this one it depends more on the disruption it may create to existing code | 17:00 |
morganfainberg | so, the code in keystone will see a lot of disruption | 17:00 |
ttx | it feels like it has wrecking potential | 17:00 |
morganfainberg | the code for anyone else should be zero | 17:00 |
morganfainberg | it shuffles a lot of things. it was a big priority this cycle to get in, but like everything else got slammed into k3 timeline | 17:00 |
morganfainberg | which meant things didn't land | 17:00 |
ttx | how long do you think it can take ? | 17:01 |
morganfainberg | it could land next week EOW | 17:01 |
morganfainberg | if everyone core jumped on it | 17:01 |
ttx | I'm worried we might introduce regressions we don't have time to spot | 17:01 |
morganfainberg | i think that is a concern | 17:01 |
ttx | let's table it for the time being and see the other one | 17:01 |
ttx | wrapped assertions? | 17:02 |
morganfainberg | hmm? | 17:02 |
morganfainberg | oh | 17:02 |
morganfainberg | yeah | 17:02 |
ttx | is the last one about wrapped assertions? | 17:02 |
morganfainberg | SAML | 17:02 |
morganfainberg | was thinking code assertion not SAML assertion | 17:02 |
ttx | trying to find the blueprint | 17:02 |
morganfainberg | it's not a BP | 17:03 |
morganfainberg | it's a bug | 17:03 |
morganfainberg | it should be converted to a BP: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1426128 | 17:03 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1426128 in Keystone "Add ECP related bits to saml generation code" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodrigo Duarte (rodrigodsousa) | 17:03 |
morganfainberg | this is small in scope, but impacts API | 17:03 |
ttx | I guess if it lands in the coming days harm is limited | 17:04 |
morganfainberg | yeah | 17:04 |
ttx | is it ready to land ? | 17:04 |
morganfainberg | and it's totally isolated | 17:04 |
morganfainberg | very close | 17:04 |
morganfainberg | i'd say tuesday for sure | 17:04 |
ttx | could you speed-create the BP for it ? | 17:04 |
morganfainberg | yeah | 17:04 |
morganfainberg | sec | 17:04 |
ttx | so that we end up with the clean list | 17:04 |
ttx | If you really want it, I'm inclined to give reseller a try, since everything else should be landed by next week | 17:05 |
morganfainberg | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/ecp-wrapped-saml-assertions | 17:05 |
ttx | it's the only one that has potential to really overflow | 17:05 |
ttx | ok, targeted to rc1 | 17:05 |
morganfainberg | my biggest concern with reseller is that is it changing how domains are working | 17:05 |
morganfainberg | they become projects with a flag | 17:06 |
morganfainberg | the rest of reseller is fairly innocuous/isolated | 17:06 |
ttx | #info ecp-wrapped-saml-assertions -- need to land before next Tuesday | 17:06 |
ttx | morganfainberg: would it be a btter idea to land it early in liberty ? So that people can start play out with it if they want to ? | 17:06 |
morganfainberg | i think it's a wash if it lands now or then. we have a high demand for the features this cycle [lots of people asking for it], but the risk is higher | 17:07 |
ttx | I think you laredy landed more thanb your share of Kilo features tbh | 17:07 |
ttx | plenty of edge cases to test already | 17:07 |
morganfainberg | lets say liberty then. | 17:07 |
ttx | and the sooner we get to that the better | 17:07 |
morganfainberg | it'll disappoint some folks. | 17:07 |
* morganfainberg knew this was going to be the result tbh. | 17:08 | |
ttx | you can blame me. I'm very willing to cut Horizon some slack due to its position in the stack... Keystone, not so much | 17:08 |
morganfainberg | we also have a ton of bugs to triage through | 17:08 |
morganfainberg | uh. no. we share the blame here. i let everything wedge into k3 | 17:08 |
morganfainberg | ;) | 17:08 |
ttx | If it were a couple days away that would not be the same discussion | 17:09 |
ttx | but we are talking end of next week here | 17:09 |
morganfainberg | next cycle i hope we make FF for keystone milestone-2 | 17:09 |
morganfainberg | then we have a whole milestone for things to slip like this if needed | 17:09 |
morganfainberg | :P | 17:09 |
ttx | yeah, nova-style | 17:09 |
morganfainberg | exactly | 17:09 |
morganfainberg | esp. with where Keystone is in the stack | 17:09 |
morganfainberg | all of these (i think) are also string-freeze exceptions | 17:10 |
morganfainberg | do i need to send messages to the i18n list? | 17:10 |
morganfainberg | or is FFE sufficient for that | 17:10 |
ttx | at least one thread on the ML so that they are able to know, yes | 17:10 |
ttx | can be a single post for all | 17:11 |
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morganfainberg | ack | 17:11 |
* ttx tries to update BP status | 17:11 | |
morganfainberg | i expect to be bug triaging and punting bugs off RC that aren't important this week as well | 17:11 |
ttx | I think I can set them all to Needs Review | 17:11 |
ttx | I'll let you unblock the patches | 17:11 |
ttx | yes, the next step is to refine the bug list so that it's actually blockers only | 17:11 |
morganfainberg | sounds good. i will make the ECP ones get commit updates | 17:11 |
ttx | and keep the nice-to-haves using the kilo-rc-potential tag | 17:12 |
morganfainberg | yep. | 17:12 |
ttx | so that we ahve a list to track starting next week | 17:12 |
morganfainberg | someone went a bit gung-ho and added every open bug to rc | 17:12 |
morganfainberg | i think. | 17:12 |
morganfainberg | :P | 17:12 |
morganfainberg | every recently opened bug that is | 17:12 |
ttx | let them use the tag instead :) | 17:12 |
morganfainberg | i will be asking them to do that. | 17:12 |
morganfainberg | cause *bugs* | 17:13 |
morganfainberg | ;) | 17:13 |
morganfainberg | anyway next week should have FFEs done and bug list sane | 17:13 |
ttx | also get someone assigned to that blueprint you just created | 17:13 |
ttx | that is all! | 17:13 |
morganfainberg | done | 17:13 |
morganfainberg | assigned to stevemar | 17:13 |
ttx | notmyname: sorry for the lateness | 17:14 |
ttx | morganfainberg: have a good day, talk to you later! | 17:14 |
notmyname | looks liek you had import stuff to discuss :-) | 17:14 |
ttx | not every day that keystone has more exception requests than Nova, Cinder and Neutron combined | 17:15 |
morganfainberg | haha | 17:15 |
ttx | #topic Swift | 17:15 |
notmyname | wow | 17:15 |
notmyname | so in swift-landia, we're hard at work on our final push to getting an erasure code beta for kilo | 17:15 |
ttx | how is that going ? Still on track ? | 17:15 |
notmyname | the patch chains being tracked are the starred patches on... | 17:15 |
notmyname | #link http://goo.gl/uRzLBX | 17:15 |
notmyname | our review dashboard | 17:16 |
notmyname | the plan is to finish up work on feature/ec this week and start the merge to master next week | 17:16 |
notmyname | there's a lot do to, so it's hard to say if it's "on track". but we'll definitely have a beta in kilo :-) | 17:17 |
ttx | some beta at least :) | 17:17 |
ttx | ok, so I expect we'll have more to discuss starting next week | 17:18 |
notmyname | about the merge process? | 17:18 |
ttx | yeah, and the RC1 timing | 17:18 |
notmyname | we're still shooting for april 10 as a guideline | 17:18 |
ttx | you have the merge process pretty much under control right | 17:18 |
notmyname | yes, I think that will be tedious, but not especially hard (the git logistics) | 17:19 |
notmyname | I'll need to work with -infra for the final merge | 17:19 |
ttx | I don't expect to be useful there, but if you need me for anything, let me know | 17:19 |
notmyname | ok, thanks | 17:19 |
ttx | anything else ? | 17:19 |
notmyname | during the merge process, we'll freeze master | 17:19 |
notmyname | to avoid conflicts causing delays | 17:20 |
ttx | #info still shooting for april 10 as a guideline for swift rc1 | 17:20 |
notmyname | that's pretty much everything right now: all EC, all the time | 17:20 |
ttx | alright | 17:20 |
ttx | I'll let you go back to that | 17:20 |
notmyname | have a good evening | 17:21 |
ttx | nothing to discuss at cross-project meeting, so we'll skip it | 17:21 |
ttx | one more hour back | 17:21 |
notmyname | ok | 17:21 |
ttx | That concludes our syncs for today, thanks everyone | 17:21 |
ttx | #endmeeting | 17:21 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 17:21:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:21 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2015/ptl_sync.2015-03-24-09.02.html | 17:21 |
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